Paths of Civilization

Ghostdevil · May 17, 2017

Oh jeez THE GODS are here to punish us spirits... Everyone RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!

(Don't actually run cause that wouldn't do much good)

BungieONI · May 17, 2017

*peeks out from rock*

*hides in very deep hole, shivering*

Malevolo · May 17, 2017

Umi-san said:
*shrug* I think Georgians are an attractive people with acceptable genes and lower rates of skin cancer.

Four diferent gods is the score now.

DocMatoi · May 17, 2017

THE DANEHAMMER HAS SPOKEN

BungieONI · May 17, 2017

DocMatoi said:
THE DANEHAMMER HAS SPOKEN

And it Said:

THUNK!

Kiba · May 17, 2017

Candesce said:
You may have missed it, but we got new trails.

This, changed to:

More would be nice, but a priority they're not.

I was thinking about the inefficiency of our martial and econ transfer. And we DID make a lot of new settlements.

Candesce · May 17, 2017

Kiba said:
I was thinking about the inefficiency of our martial and econ transfer.

Fixing that is going to take some serious tech advancement, not a New Trails action.

Start by finishing Iron.

Umi-san · May 17, 2017

Malevolo said:
Four diferent gods is the score now.

what?

Inspirit · May 17, 2017

Just caught up and read the last five updates... I see a couple of things of some note happened since I last checked this thread

Still, holy shit we have iron. That's ridiculous.

[X] [Main] Expand Forests - Stallion Tribes
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Expansion
[X] [Secondary] Build Chariots

We really should focus on expanding our forests more, we've barely done it in about a century or so. Plus it helps out the march.

Obligatory message for the nomads to jump on a rusty spike :mob:

Kiba · May 17, 2017

Academia Nut said:
Right now because of your terrible logistics due to lacking a lot of technologies, transfers are unbelievably inefficient.

Candesce said:
Fixing that is going to take some serious tech advancement, not a New Trails action.

Start by finishing Iron.

Logistic is the issue here, but whether or not we can fix that with New Trails...I am feeling a bit dubious about. Unless we get roman tier roads.

Candesce · May 17, 2017

Kiba said:
Logistic is the issue here,

Why yes, yes it is.

Let me highlight something in the passage you just quoted:

Academia Nut said:
Right now because of your terrible logistics due to lacking a lot of technologies, transfers are unbelievably inefficient.

BungieONI · May 17, 2017

Candesce said:
Why yes, yes it is.

Let me highlight something in the passage you just quoted:

I smell the need for wagon ways. And paving.

Kiba · May 17, 2017

Candesce said:
Why yes, yes it is.

Let me highlight something in the passage you just quoted:

I did express my low confidence in the New Trails action.

Sivantic · May 17, 2017

notgreat said:
Versus Forests. 42 vs (25+17)=42

Forests would definitely be nice, but can be automatically done via Expansion. Carrion Eaters are the perfect elite for us since they reduce our losses, which is the explicit weakness of elites. They counter their own downside.
They've also never been expanded and I really don't want to risk losing them, especially since their few numbers probably took a significant hit these past couple of turns.

That would carry more weight if ws had actually gotten word that they are dying out. The people are well aware of their importance and they won't suddenly die out.

Also not as helpful because it would be us having more Carrion Eaters not the March and since we aren't sending them support...

Forest on the other hand is taking care of long term. They will be taking Chariots this turn to better their martial, but that only helps against immediate raiding. The sooner we start the forests, the sooner we have them as protection. Especially since they can then use the Econ it gives them to grab Carrion Eaters of their own.

If they need Carrion Eaters, they will purchase those for their own use as well as Warriors to garrison their town and boost their numbers.

Malevolo · May 17, 2017

BungieONI said:
I smell the need for wagon ways. And paving.

Kiba · May 17, 2017

Possible effect of Carrion Eaters:

- Improved childbirth rate.
- Reduced attrition rate for our military and boosted attacking power.
- Better access to medical care.
- Possible new medical innovation.

notgreat · May 17, 2017

Sivantic said:
That would carry more weight if ws had actually gotten word that they are dying out. The people are well aware of their importance and they won't suddenly die out.

We never got word that our Sacred War value was dying out, it just up and disappeared shortly after we established the Carrion Eaters.

Sivantic said:
If they need Carrion Eaters, they will purchase those for their own use as well as Warriors to garrison their town and boost their numbers.

AFAIK they can't since they don't have any Mysticism to spend on them. I'm not even sure if they have a Mysticism stat at all.

But yeah, if you think that we're not going to be attacked within the next 2 turns building the forest is better. If you think we are going to be attacked then staying on the war mission is better.

If you're unsure like me, then hedging your bets and rebuilding our military ASAP is the best choice. It puts us in a pretty good condition either way instead of leaving us in a lot of trouble if the nomads (or other neighbors) don't do as we expect.

NotteBoy97 · May 17, 2017

[X] [Main] More Carrion Eaters
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X][Secondary] New Settlement - Bleeding Cliffs
Still catching up so voting for this so we can replenish martial, build the mines next turn, and have our provinces foucus on themselves while we recover.

BungieONI · May 17, 2017

notgreat said:
We never got word that our Sacred War value was dying out, it just up and disappeared shortly after we established the Carrion Eaters.

AFAIK they can't since they don't have any Mysticism to spend on them. I'm not even sure if they have a Mysticism stat at all.

But yeah, if you think that we're not going to be attacked within the next 2 turns building the forest is better. If you think we are going to be attacked then staying on the war mission is better.

If you're unsure like me, then hedging your bets and rebuilding our military ASAP is the best choice. It puts us in a pretty good condition either way instead of leaving us in a lot of trouble if the nomads (or other neighbors) don't do as we expect.

And considering their inherently stupid/dickish natures they will do something we don't like.

DocMatoi · May 17, 2017

BungieONI said:
And considering their inherently stupid/dickish natures they will do something we don't like.

Nah, they're less stupid now. We moved a bunch of southerners up there, remember?

pblur · May 17, 2017

Sivantic said:
That would carry more weight if ws had actually gotten word that they are dying out. The people are well aware of their importance and they won't suddenly die out.

Also not as helpful because it would be us having more Carrion Eaters not the March and since we aren't sending them support...

Forest on the other hand is taking care of long term. They will be taking Chariots this turn to better their martial, but that only helps against immediate raiding. The sooner we start the forests, the sooner we have them as protection. Especially since they can then use the Econ it gives them to grab Carrion Eaters of their own.

If they need Carrion Eaters, they will purchase those for their own use as well as Warriors to garrison their town and boost their numbers.

Remember the nomads backed off; we should have till mid turn without the march dying, and can send troops then ifvwe have them.

If we don't raise our martial, we won't have much of a margin if they come back.

BungieONI · May 17, 2017

DocMatoi said:
Nah, they're less stupid now. We moved a bunch of southerners up there, remember?

I was talking about the Lowlanders.

What civil war is this for the HK?

hYGP · May 17, 2017

A thought that I forgot to mention last night:

We can influence the values of the Ymaryn by our voting patterns as well as our choices. It might be possible to give our civ another trait this way, but I wouldn't count on it.

BungieONI · May 17, 2017

huhYeahGoodPoint said:
A thought that I forgot to mention last night:

We can influence the values of the Ymaryn by our voting patterns as well as our choices. It might be possible to give our civ another trait this way, but I wouldn't count on it.

Yeah, like we are gonna be that unanimous unless the ETH come knocking.

Karugus · May 17, 2017

Keep in mind the TS are simply waiting for the right time to have a swing at us, and they're liable to drag the Xoh into that as well. We can't afford to simply monofocus on the threat of nomads when the only reason the nomads gutted the Stallions that badly was because the Thunder Shitheads were warring with us.

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