Icarus says no, iirc air-based chakra constructs can't form.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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I thought the FD was practically 0 thickness?
About 1 mm going by Discord posts.
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- Washington, USA
Possible additional feature for Iron Earth 2.0: have it target the earth and rock across radius exactly equal to that of a force dome, then abruptly move all that material by, say, 5cm straight up, then hold it in place. Resulting fissure allows the complete force sphere to form.
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If possible, it doesn't have to be all the material. There are presumably enough underground air pockets to be able to compress the earth around the circumference by 5cm without having to move the entire affected area, which could be potentially disruptive (does the Iron Earth rune affect, say, embedded concrete or wood foundations, etc? Because if not moving all of the dirt and rock up 5cm is almost the same as causing most of the buildings to sink 5cm potentially).
Although, this might be harder to design if it's considered too complex of an effect for a rune to execute; rather than simply shunting everything by 5cm, it has to selectively do so at the edges.
Right, the concern was more than cutting a giant slice through the bedrock might effectively create a new minor fault plate that hasn't had the time to shift into it's locally-stable position, resulting in earthquakes and other seismic action.
Similarly, using it near a hill/mountain side would probably cause collapes and really dramatic landslides.
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Wow, that is quite a lot!
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- Texas
It's anything with less than durability 4 and explicitly digs into soil, no idea how far into it though.Known Seals and Runes Document said:
@eaglejarl what's the radius of leaf?
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I took "loose earth" to mean "earth that has been dug up and not compacted" like a pile of dirt from digging a hole
Does it mean "topsoil but not bedrock" instead? Or something else?
Also can we get some FP for overcoming Deidara with our cunning plans?
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Small enough that we can fit it under a Force Dome.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
This seems like bad sequencing for OPSEC. We'd have to send a new SC to the Superchiller location for no reason. Why not just have HFBF do the burying instead of insta-popping?
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The Iron Earth rune can be be deactivated, which burns it out. For other runes, such as Ninja-Radar, the cutting-edge for disposal continues to be waiting their durations out, or burying them + packing them with ELFEs.
- In the area of the fortress, once the search for the rift is done? Sure. They're not willing to waste time doing the surroundings, though, and they'll call it off if it seems like it's taking too long.
- Both approve of trying, since if you can grab Deidara from inside the rift, that would be excellent for interrogation and leverage. They don't expect the Jashinists to be useful hostages or interrogation targets. Orochimaru is additionally very interested in figuring out the Human Path-afterlife mapping. The only caveat is that his rift-moving seals will put less stress on the rift if it's closed when they're operated, so you should keep the opening small.
- Tsunade is on-board with sending everyone back to Leaf ASAP for defense, leaving Orochimaru to bring the rift to Leaf more slowly -- or maybe even to a secondary site free of Akatsuki's pressure. No matter what, she wants Hazou and Noburi leaving for Leaf by dawn.
- The limitation on Orochimaru's rift-movement speed is crafting/infusion time, rather than chakra. Noburi isn't required.
- Tsunade expects they'll move on Leaf immediately, wanting to retaliate sooner rather than give Leaf time to fortify, especially with Deidara, possibly their biggest source of city-destroying firepower, dead. On the contrary, Orochimaru thinks that Akatsuki will probably come here before they go to Leaf. The range of their potential response time to the rift is massive, potentially between four days and two weeks, and Orochimaru expects that a trap will not go well for the Leaf forces -- Akatsuki will be able to pick the time of engagement, so much of the chakra bullshit will not work in your favor. He and Tsunade would both rather move than stick around.
How large are Rift-unanchoring/Rift Kicking/Rift-Catching? If they're 25 substrate then I don't see how this can be true.
If that's the case, then Noburi can help him parallelize the crafting massively with SC. Even without it, does he have the chakra to craft unanchoring and kicking at the same time?
If they must be shaped on-site then he's correct that shaping is most of the work. A team (even just Sunny) would prevent him from doubling back as much and if Sunny is there she can carry the heavier blanks for him.
Specifically I was wondering if it would be viable to have a force dome activated mid-air so that the edge barely cover the wall and curves underneath. This would make it easier to carve out paths for the dome to go through assuming Iron Earth 2.0 isn't developed fast enough. But also I have no clue how to determine the viability of trying to dig underneath leaf to such a degree that the entire city gets enclosed from beneath by the dome.
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- America
Can we develop Icarus Runes with an exception for a certain "frequency" of chakra/seal? For example we modify skywalkers to be ever so slightly "red" and modify the Icarus Rune to only allow "red" skywalkers.
Within the altered Icarus Runes we'd have aerial superiority and our opponents won't be able to find research workarounds without research time in the area of the rune.
Also we owe Cannai big time now. He was super helpful. Why don't we offer him runes or ask if any rune effects would be helpful?
Time acceleration runes would probably help his war and we can certainly trust Cannai not to break runic opsec.
Within the altered Icarus Runes we'd have aerial superiority and our opponents won't be able to find research workarounds without research time in the area of the rune.
Also we owe Cannai big time now. He was super helpful. Why don't we offer him runes or ask if any rune effects would be helpful?
Time acceleration runes would probably help his war and we can certainly trust Cannai not to break runic opsec.
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What about Orochimaru's opinion?
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- UK
IMO it would make more sense to just make new Skywalkers that fix in place another way entirely.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
This pattern is starting to grate my sense of Hazō and my sense of realistic behavior. Optimizing with Mari and Kei whether he is optimizing with the Sannin correctly is just a step too far. If we think that our family members can add value to the planning phase then we should insist they be included, "not enough standing" be damned. Mari already proved during Lunar Eclipse that the Sannin can tolerate her input. And Kei is a trained advisor of a known Thinker bloodline who has sat in during high stakes planning with two different Hokages.
Isn't the duration written in our rift opening rune's specs? Down to such detail as that the duration is variable based on rune size?
if there's a nara among the chakra batteries. we should add them too
If I leave it out I get yelled at, start yelling at those people and maybe we can see some progress in the next 100 years.
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It Only Gets Worse From Here
No can do, I've got yelling at you penciled in for at least the next fiscal quarter.
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@Sir Stompy Our conversation on Discord kinda got sidetracked, but would you be willing to do a bit of reorganizing of your plan to emphasize the more time-sensitive stuff first? This would mostly be moving stuff involving tracking runners/other Akatsuki to the front, possibly its own section while talking to a Tsunade clone or something.
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I don't mean stop sanity checking. I mean add them to the current war council already.