We already had Hazo ask the team about keeping people as chakra batteries. Noburi et al explained why it doesn't work. If you think something changed could you highlight that?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Sit on a FSB bench when scribing blanks, then put it away before infusion.
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Yeah, THing is doublecost. We only have enough Notes XP to get THing from 10 to... 33? 32? Something like that.
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I feel like we have been somewhat comically half-burned by assuming that the gang has any knowledge of how boats work in the past. There was at least one instance in the early chapters where EJ used the opportunity to demonstrate a rather impressive knowledge of maritime vocabulary and sailing minutiae while underlining that a pile of dummies operating a boat isn't likely to go well.
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10 -> 33 costs 1012 XP and the notes provide 1000, so just barely short of 33.
The main objection was "we can't transport them". A boat fixes this.
The secondary objection was that Noburi can't keep a large group of unconscious people alive for more than ~3 weeks, and waking them occasionally risks escape attempts or attacks.
My proposal is that we only keep Genin(and chunin?) as long-term long-term prisoners, and carefully wake each one for a short time each day, under close guard from Noburi+Mari+Yuno+Kagome. With almost no chakra, FSB handcuffs preventing Jutsu, movement, and punching, explosive seals stuck to their back, and facing two Jonin, this should be safe enough.
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I don't dismiss them, I just don't particularly feel like including them if they are bad ideas, like this one.
If I think it's a bad idea but ultimately harmless and you're voting for me. I am likely to include it. But I don't make a special effort for people who aren't voting for me
Why on Earth do you think a larger more complicated boat would be easier to handle??? That's the literal opposite of how these things work. None of our guys have experience sailing a large ship.
I suggest you read the quoted chapter to see how the rest of the team is going to feel about this idea. Have we been yelled at Kei enough recently? Do we want more???
We do not have the sailing skills for this. Sorry, that's just reality.
I am not doing this, fork the damn plan over it if you want.
I don't. I think that a larger boat is extremely difficult to sink by misshandleing it, and that gives time/slack to learn how to steer it.
Let Mari/Kagome/Tenten spend a week or two leveling Sailing to 10 while we research on a skytower. Grab a cabin boy to give lessons as needed.
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Presumably we'd 5SB our table or something.
I'm not in favor of the idea, but I don't think this is a specific issue with it.
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Seems like the boat can't move if we're doing that...
Alright, you have my vote.
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The plan seems to be to anchor the boat for most of the time. Basically treating it like a movable base rather than a means of transportation.
We can FSB the whole damn boat if we want. It'll also make it unsinkable during storms.
But we aren't spending most of the time scribeing blanks, so it mostly isn't an issue. When it is, we have plenty of ways to make a steady desk.
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Still strikes me as a bad idea for researching - it's a pretty small space so where is Hazou going to infuse? He's been careful about not infusing runes near each other. There's not room for Kagome to set up his research lab Standard precautions either.
We have a SC infuse it while everyone sits on a skytower 2 miles away. Same as we already do.
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So we have to throw away any of our other active runes every time we want to infuse? And what if we want to dual track runes?
You are vastly underestimating the difficulties here. I am profoundly uninterested in this plan and I don't care to keep discussing it.
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Is it possible to do a prep-day on the Great Seal?
I understand not liking a plan, but you are not the only person in this thread and it's rather rude to unilaterally shut down discussion when other people are still discussing. If you don't want to keep discussing it, you can just ignore other people talking about it.
I wonder if it's possible to place our runes on a temporary platform while we sail a distance away for infusion. Of course, that still means an infusion failure destroys our transportation, to say nothing of any prisoners we have on board for chakra batteries.
But generally, my biggest concern is sea monsters destroying our ship and leaving us stranded on skytowers or having to waterwalk to safety. I remember our previous jaunts across the ocean have often come with sea monster ambushes, and deep ocean seems like just the place for crazy powerful chakra beasts to live for a long time without being culled, just like the sandworm here.
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Runic Drag makes both lateral and rocking motion on a ship into a serious problem, which puts us back in the position of living on Skytower platforms. Imo any advantage of storing Genin as chakra batteries is offset by the extra scribing that Kagome will have to do to give Hazo a stable workstation.
I appreciate the explanation, thank you. I'm not wholly convinced that this moves the needle on the practical issues- a large number of genin are easier to handle but I'm not sure the difficulty is trivial and the payoff from genin is small enough that I don't know how much it would offset the costs required to commit to this plan. I remain overall skeptical and any information that could change my mind seems like an IC thing rather than something we can confirm OOC, so I'm bowing out of the convo here. I wish you luck figuring out something workable for extra chakra.
I am not trying to stop discussion of the idea, by all means, go ahead.
I have ignored such discussions in the past, and indeed that's what I prefer to do. However, ignoring the requests just ended up with escalating demands to add X to my plan.
My sincere apologies if I came across like I was demanding the thread stop discussing this.
Fair enough! Thanks for talking it out with me.
Ah, for the record, I happen to disagree. At 200CP each, every 2 genin allows us to do another rune research track.
So capturing just 4 genin doubles the number of runes we can research.
I think that's worth a lot.
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I'm concerned that my brain is being cheese again -- have we actually shown him teleporting? I know people are guessing that he stole the teleport jutsu from Conjura but I didn't think he had done it onscreen.
Are you sure that's MfD canon as opposed to Naruto canon? The only times I can think of that we've shown Amaterasu being used was when Itachi nuked the Dragon and when he nuked the snake corpse as a flex on the team. Both times, the fire stayed on the target creature.
Has that been established in MfD canon? Thus far I think we've only shown it burning the Dragon and the snake, as far as I know.
Could be anything thin, but spider silk is the only thing we ever explicitly showed, IIRC.
Ah yes. Chapter 33. Good times, good times. There was lighthearted humor and combat was easy to write aside from the annoyance of Augjev skill checks. (Depressing/enraging: Also, I still had two living parents and American politics wasn't quite such a dumpster fire filled with nightmare fuel. )