Pinging also @Velorien @Paperclipped
What are the mechanical effects of doing so? Say we ask Kei/Noburi to givd a 1/3 of their reserves go Hazou to support opening a 3rd runic infusion track on infusion days.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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What are the mechanical effects of doing so? Say we ask Kei/Noburi to givd a 1/3 of their reserves go Hazou to support opening a 3rd runic infusion track on infusion days.
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This length of time ("Research this stuff unless its fucked or really hard, then abort early") seems to be an excellent compromise between getting things done but allowing us some agency in deciding how our time gets used in chunks and whether or not we want to pursue stuff immediately if an earlier thing turns out much easier than we thought, so sounds good to me.
This length of time ("Research this stuff unless its fucked or really hard, then abort early") seems to be an excellent compromise between getting things done but allowing us some agency in deciding how our time gets used in chunks and whether or not we want to pursue stuff immediately if an earlier thing turns out much easier than we thought, so sounds good to me.
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Pretty much my sentiments. We don't want to mega-timeskip and then find that we made a faulty assumption or something was too hard and now we're two months in with not enough to show.
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By the way, thanks @Sir Stompy for all the plans you write.
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Or is some of it being above the surface deliberate? Because I would argue that we could just have a multilevel chasm instead.
25-30m above the surface seems...it covers a large area. Would it be possible to say "as far underground as we can", or some other way to explain that we want as little of it aboveground as possible?
Or is some of it being above the surface deliberate? Because I would argue that we could just have a multilevel chasm instead.
1 subjective month makes me think "1 month-affected-by-timeacceleration-runes". Is this the intent?
I guess I haven't worked out the math to know what the cross sectional area of a sphere 1km radius sliced 30m from the tip. The intent is just not to have the team trapped underground for months. We could go flush to the ground and dig out an area to train in
EDIT: it's 250 Zones :Hazoulook
Yeah it's about 3 solar weeks. 20ish days.
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I would argue that the most important things to have in the TR are sleeping quarters, since sleeping time is time that isn't used for anything constructive.
Ideally we'd spend most of our time under the TR effect, though.
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Second, I think we can probably jump straight to PLTR 125, since at our current PS if we can't do that without 103 veterancy the line of research probably isn't worth pursuing, plus there's a risk that weaker versions might be harder. (I said this before, but didn't get a response so assume you missed it.)
Also, echoing @MarsIronPI, thank you for being the primary planmaker for basically this whole macro-arc; it is very much appreciated!
Two things - first, how is the "doing prep" meant to be prioritized vs everything else? I assume it's not meant to interrupt the DotB research tracks, but is it meant to override the reading notes?
Second, I think we can probably jump straight to PLTR 125, since at our current PS if we can't do that without 103 veterancy the line of research probably isn't worth pursuing, plus there's a risk that weaker versions might be harder. (I said this before, but didn't get a response so assume you missed it.)
How big is a Zone on open ground meant to be again? (I get that the surface area is a circle of radius ~222-~243 metres, so an area of 0.155-0.186 square kilometres; if that's supposed to be 250 Zones, then a square Zone would have a side length of about 25-27 metres, which is not unreasonable but differs from previous estimates. The last size estimate I saw of a Zone on open ground was back when we first tested the EM nuke:
which would put this area at under 100 Zones, though of course circles don't tesselate. (Actual question being: what numbers were you using to come up with 250 Zones?) It's a moot point since you've already changed the plan to have the rune flush with the ground, but I'm curious.
Also, echoing @MarsIronPI, thank you for being the primary planmaker for basically this whole macro-arc; it is very much appreciated!
I was doing ~15 meter radius, ~30 meter diameter that's what I usually use to be on the safe side. But it's pretty flexible.
Also it hardly matters at this point. 100 Zones is just as difficult to disguise as 250 (neither are possible) so flush with the ground it is.
I did miss this. PLTR 125 it is.
Formula adapted from here (x = R - h)
Radius of cross sectional area = r = unknown
Radius of big sphere = R = 1000m
Height truncation = h = 30m
r = sqrt[R^2 - (R - h)^2]
r = ~242.5m
Then pi * r^2 for the area of the cross-sectional circle, and divide by 225pi for the # of Zones, you get ~261 total
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It is meant to override notes, prep days on runes are mission relevant and notes aren't.
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Where's my "cringe" reaction?
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@eaglejarl, @Paperclipped, @Velorien, I haven't seen an answer to this question, so I'd gently like to bump it.
Can we research the Rune of Chakra Pool without being in the cave now?
(Apologies if it's been answered and I simply missed it.)
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Good memory! It later got revised to 30 meters diameter because @Paperclipped did the math on ninja sprint speed and the results were a bit ridiculous with 50m zones.
I've revised the chapter appropriately.
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Any chance this can be put into the rulesdoc (e.g., in an open field, a Zone is around a 30m diameter area)?
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This is really useful information to have, even fuzzed by the Prep Day bins, because we are counting on some kind of delivery mechanism against Itachi et al. Unless the plan is to hit them with regular explosives, we will eventually need to combine our different seal variants. This research detour to Persistent Runic HOWS would isolate the marginal value of researching Remote Explosives before Remote EM, for example.
As an additional argument, a single research cycle was almost able to complete Runic HOWS at PS 19 without SSA. Hazo has increased his effective PS score by 60% since then: more than half-again his previous score.
Now, persistent Runic HOWS does have a bit of danger associated: there's no guarantee that anything that enters would ever stop glowing. So we would want to add verbiage to the plan that avoids any body parts entering the field. (Although that would certainly be a cool body modification…)
There is a chance to do some deeper research into the principles of Rune Difficulty here. If we do a prep day on PLTR 125 now, and then research "Persistent Runic HOWS" before doing a second prep day on PLTR 125, then we will be able to eyeball the veterancy transfer of having a prototype for a seal variant.
This is really useful information to have, even fuzzed by the Prep Day bins, because we are counting on some kind of delivery mechanism against Itachi et al. Unless the plan is to hit them with regular explosives, we will eventually need to combine our different seal variants. This research detour to Persistent Runic HOWS would isolate the marginal value of researching Remote Explosives before Remote EM, for example.
As an additional argument, a single research cycle was almost able to complete Runic HOWS at PS 19 without SSA. Hazo has increased his effective PS score by 60% since then: more than half-again his previous score.
Now, persistent Runic HOWS does have a bit of danger associated: there's no guarantee that anything that enters would ever stop glowing. So we would want to add verbiage to the plan that avoids any body parts entering the field. (Although that would certainly be a cool body modification…)
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Cariyaga
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Prep day checks don't take into account veterancy, unfortunately.
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@Sir Stompy, I think that this is too slow and not worth the chakra expenditure when we have ELF anyway.
I also think you're underestimating how hard it will be to dig that deep...
Cariyaga
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You don't have to dig with ES. Just increase the density of the earth-material, and a tunnel will form as a result.
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Due to a unfortunate runic incident, Team Uplift as a whole is now permanently incandescent. Thankfully, glowing like a beacon couldn't make their stealth any worse.