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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Dark as Silver said:
The description is beautiful as ever.... But where is Grungni ever called the Lord of the Skies? Or are you giving him that title based on his Weapon MRune?


Master Rune of ConductionWeapon: Strikes impart extreme heat and force after a brief charge up period, the weapon grows hot enough to glow bright orange and can hold a greater amount of heat.

Armour: Softens the impacts of blows and causes an explosion when hit.
Rune of FuryWielder becomes enraged and more powerful by the memory of unfulfilled Grudges, multiple copies improves speed and damage they deal
Rune of StrikingGuides wielder to strike the foe's most vulnerable areas, multiple copies improve martial skill

Conduction would probably have to be a given on this combo since we're starting from star fire... An alternate Azyr based combo might be an idea given what we know of the winds, however its also possible to get a WTF response from the client who doesn't know that.

I can see potential synergy between Fury and Conduction based on an Asqy link of Fire (MConduction) and Anger (Fury) however I also think theres also effect anti synergy between a rune with charge up and a rune that increases striking speed.

I'm not really sure what Striking brings to a combo. I can see logic for it based on shoring up the areas that haven't been buffed by other runes, conduction and fury add power, fury adds speed, so adding increased hit chance doesn't feel like a bad choice. However it doesn't jump out as an effect thats likely to combo.

How would you feel about Strongarm as a choice? It stores enemy energy in the weapon which could be released by Conduction, and has a previous combo with Fury in Rising Rancour. It doesn't do what Striking does but I think the synergy potential is greater.
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My understanding is Conduction is charge-> stay hot. My hope is it combos to essentially "Hot, precise, blows aimed expertly at the most vulnerable parts of the enemy."

Sorry if brief, on phone.
 
[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.

[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks
 
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks (Together Version)
 
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[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
 
[x] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[x] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.

Dreng scene = Karstah storyline. Insta-pick for me.
It's been a while since we've seen much of Fjolla so I wanna see her show off her new bling.

[x] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

Because the sweet sweet temptation of possibly learning Vrangi's reaction is too much to ignore.
 
Personally think this is the choice the ancestors would want most. For the Dawi to have ambition and a desire to ascend to the same heights however foolish such a notion may seem to skeptics.
 
[X] Plan Snorri you daff Dorf you got grandchildren to spoil

we will see.

[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

my plan B
 
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[X] Plan Snorri you daff Dorf you got grandchildren to spoil

[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins (Together) and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.

[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
 
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soulcake said:
- You now make a total of 2 progress across your [Simple] Research a turn.
-- Every 2 actions you put towards [Difficult] Research will add 1 to the above pool
- Research action is gone.
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@soulcake, a few questions about these.
  • Do we get to choose which [Simple] Research gains progress?
  • Are we able to gain progress to improving our traits and/or specialities by completing [Simple] Research?
  • Since they are progress and not actions, would it be correct to say that Snorri's traits do not proc?
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks (Together Version)
[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
 
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Approval vote for the plans with Marching...

[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks
 
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
A tally.
Adhoc vote count started by Aliya on Sep 18, 2024 at 3:26 PM, finished with 181 posts and 39 votes.
  • [X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
    [X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
    [X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
    [X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
    [X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
    [X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
    -[X] Snorri & Karstah
    --[X] Accept Starlight
    --[X] Drakk Rearing [1 Heir]
    --[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti [1 Heir]
    ---[X] An exemplary Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. It is as large as the largest and oldest Wyrms at forty five meters from nose to tail and its scales shine with power. The story of Kraka Drakk and it's inhabitants is inscribed onto its wings in panoramic mural and gemstones. This artwork and its immense might are meant to be a tribute to the Hold that Snorri has lived in for almost half a millennia, to mark Khazagar as a legacy for Kraka Drakk. Thus its power is meant to defeat the greatest members of the Dumi. It is cleverly designed such that it weighs far less than expected for its size and offsets some of its significant ground pressure. Furthermore, its Horns, Wings, front left Claw, and three special chest scales for Armor runes, are all designed to have runes of their own in the future. A mechanism in its mouth will hold the item that creates its Breath Weapon. Finally, a cleverly concealed Adamant screw-plug longer than two dwarfs are tall is in its chest, held in place by a perfect fit and massive internal locking bars and mechanisms which are unlocked by secret commands given to the Gronti - and behind this plug in the core of its body lies its Heart Chamber. The animating Runes of the Gronti are inscribed into the walls of this Heart Chamber, while a slot for the future Heart itself lies empty. [Uses 192 Bars of Adamant. The theme of this: "A metal behemoth of the Storm Above and the Deep Below. Cladding itself in the Storm within, its thunder and might fueled by the endless vigor of the Deep."]
    ---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening [T4 Greedy Troll Heart], Rune of Empowerment [T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart], Rune of Siphoning (Engineering) [T4 Greedy Troll Heart].
    --[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
    ---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
    --[X] Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [1 AP]
    --[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy [1 Research]
    --[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 [2 Research]
    --[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
    --[X] [Difficult] Convert a Regular Rune: Siphoning to Engineering [1 AP]
    -[X] Retainers & Orders
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
    --[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
    --[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
    [X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
    [X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks
    -[X] Snorri & Karstah
    --[X] Accept Starlight
    --[X] Drakk Rearing [1 Heir]
    --[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti [1 Heir]
    ---[X] An exemplary Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. It is as large as the largest and oldest Wyrms at forty five meters from nose to tail and its scales shine with power. The story of Kraka Drakk and it's inhabitants is inscribed onto its wings in panoramic mural and gemstones. This artwork and its immense might are meant to be a tribute to the Hold that Snorri has lived in for almost half a millennia, to mark Khazagar as a legacy for Kraka Drakk. Thus its power is meant to defeat the greatest members of the Dumi. It is cleverly designed such that it weighs far less than expected for its size and offsets some of its significant ground pressure. Furthermore, its Horns, Wings, front left Claw, and three special chest scales for Armor runes, are all designed to have runes of their own in the future. A mechanism in its mouth will hold the item that creates its Breath Weapon. Finally, a cleverly concealed Adamant screw-plug longer than two dwarfs are tall is in its chest, held in place by a perfect fit and massive internal locking bars and mechanisms which are unlocked by secret commands given to the Gronti - and behind this plug in the core of its body lies its Heart Chamber. The animating Runes of the Gronti are inscribed into the walls of this Heart Chamber, while a slot for the future Heart itself lies empty. [Uses 192 Bars of Adamant. The theme of this: "A metal behemoth of the Storm Above and the Deep Below. Cladding itself in the Storm within, its thunder and might fueled by the endless vigor of the Deep."]
    ---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening [T4 Greedy Troll Heart], Rune of Empowerment [T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart], Rune of Siphoning (Engineering) [T4 Greedy Troll Heart].
    --[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
    ---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
    --[X] March [1 AP]
    --[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
    --[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 [2 Research]
    --[X] [Difficult] Convert a Regular Rune: Siphoning to Engineering [1 AP]
    -[X] Retainers & Orders
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
    --[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
    --[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
    [X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination
    -[X] Snorri & Karstah
    --[X] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
    --[X] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
    --[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
    --[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
    --[X] March 1 Snorri
    --[X] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri
    --[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
    ---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah
    --[X] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: 2 Karstah
    --[X] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
    ---[X] Accept
    -[X] Retainers & Orders
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
    --[X] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
    --[X] Queenly Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor
    [X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Waystones and Banner
    -[X] Snorri & Karstah
    --[X] Accept Starlight
    --[X] [Simple] Azrilzhufgotten Pt. 2 [2 Heir]
    ---[X] Combo, Goruz-Kazak Rikkaz: Master Rune of Traversal [T4 Radiant Pegasus' Heart], Rune of Impact [T3 Stonehorn Leg Muscles], Rune of Amber [T4 Barazgal].
    --[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
    ---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
    --[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy [1 Research]
    --[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 [2 Research]
    --[X] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery Pt. 1 [2 AP]
    --[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
    -[X] Retainers & Orders
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
    --[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
    --[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
    --[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
    [X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
    [X] Plan Snorri you daff Dorf you got grandchildren to spoil
    [X] March [1 Snorri AP] Might as well see what that hammer can do. What better way to test it than against the ones trying to corrupt the world? Plus, seeing that hammer will embolden the Dawi fighting on the front.
    [X] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2: [3 Snorri AP] Let's finish this up, we've been putting this off for too long and I'm sure it will help in figuring out how to improve our eye.
    [X] Training Regime Pt. 2: [2 Retainer AP] The war is going to happen no matter what and I would feel better when our Hearthguard has better-trained warriors for what's coming
    [X] [Simple] Re-warding Work: [2 Karstah AP] Be better to have some defenses around the stones just in case.
    [X] [Simple] Write In Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Azrilzhufgotten, or The Silver River Marches. Better equipped as well. We are running them ragged.
    [X] BungieONI
    [X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Metal Drakk
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Fanhunter696 said:
Ok, fair enough... But I thought that the plan was always to finish the magesight in a couple of turns and go for a Smelter Rush turn with both Snorri and Karstah

I still think we should still try to get the Body and Soul sub-branches of the Movement of Things done before designing this golem though, seeing its description is probably going to help us with a better Programming of the Gronti...

And as I said before marching with our new hammer seems likeva good idea, both to try our new toy in combat and because the Fimir are still in our turf attacking other holds...
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Yes, the plan is to finish the current ESP part next turn, then do a smelter rush on turn 59. Then build the dragon at the latest in turn 64. The earliest we can build the Dragon is turn 60, if we Tap Waystones for extra smelter production and stack that with a Storm of Magic.

Since the Body and Soul are aimed mainly at Waking Elementals, and that's not what this Gronti is, I somewhat doubt that its going to improve the programming of the Gronti. Completing them would also likely not improve Snorri's Mind for Constructs trait either (it'd get close, but not enough I figure). And that trait is where Snorri's skill in gronti programming mainly sits.

I'm not actually very keen on taking KKR into War because of that Ulgu Meargh - I don't like the risk of her potentially stealing it. Also we don't need it to kill her, and once we build Brynbar we definitely don't need it. Once we kill her I'm totally down with test driving the Hammer in war.

[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
--[X] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
--[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
--[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
--[X] Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun 1 Snorri
--[X] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri
--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: Design link 2 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
---[X] Accept
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
--[X] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
--[X] Royal Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor
--[X] Royal Authority, Additional Order: T4 Voidstone 15 Kraka Krum Favor


[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
--[X] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
--[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
--[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
--[X] Drakk Rearing 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri
--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: Design link 1 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
---[X] Accept
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
--[X] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
--[X] Royal Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor
--[X] Royal Authority, Additional Order: T4 Voidstone 15 Kraka Krum Favor

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

I wanna see Fjolla, she hasn't had screen time in quite a while and I like her.
 
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