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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Waystones and Banner

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
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So I think the first thing we should do with the hammer should be big and obvious. So a Dragon War Gronti, and that we should move to the war front, because Santa Clause has a hammer with the name of that 'one eyed lizard bitch' that got away last time on it.

Make it a group project as an example for the Khazagar of what Rune lords and master can do while working on a single project together. Getting a close look at the hammer in the middle of creating a new work should be more then enough on it's own to get other rune smiths to work with him.
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks
 
Elders, please alert Caretaker Karstah that I have found a large Ruby vein. It is plentiful and I shall give a great share if she returns. This is my offer. I return to the depths.

- A note scrawled on a large slab of stone blocking the entrance to the Hearth Guard barracks. At its feet is an uncut Ruby the size of a fist.


The noodles have asked and grandpapi Snorri shall deliver


[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes and the Dragon Kaiju Begins
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
 
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Poetic title based on the whole thunder and lightning motif he's got going on, I vaguely seem to recall that elsewhere but I can't cite it so I will just stick to the Poetic thing.

Will respond when on break, but I felt this worth clarifying now
Thats cool, I just asked because I felt like god of the skies would be the some insult for something thats useless to a dwarf... but held in high regard by a Ranger. :p
 
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
I'm just going to take a couple of the popular plans and replace Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun with March because there is still a war going on and I can't think of a way to sugarcoat this so I won't even bother trying: the thread's callous indifference to everyone fighting and dying against the Fimir is horrifying to me.

There are grudges to be struck out, foes to slay, and kinsmen to protect. We just picked up the mightiest weapon known to dwarf, so what are we waiting for?

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.

[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
--[X] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
--[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
--[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
--[X] March 1 Snorri
--[X] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri

--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah

--[X] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: 2 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
---[X] Accept
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
--[X] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
--[X] Queenly Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor
--[X] Royal Authority, Additional Order: T4 Voidstone 15 Kraka Krum Favor

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] Accept Starlight
--[X] Drakk Rearing [1 Heir]
--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti [1 Heir]
---[X] An exemplary Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. It is as large as the largest and oldest Wyrms at forty five meters from nose to tail and its scales shine with power. The story of Kraka Drakk and it's inhabitants is inscribed onto its wings in panoramic mural and gemstones. This artwork and its immense might are meant to be a tribute to the Hold that Snorri has lived in for almost half a millennia, to mark Khazagar as a legacy for Kraka Drakk. Thus its power is meant to defeat the greatest members of the Dumi. It is cleverly designed such that it weighs far less than expected for its size and offsets some of its significant ground pressure. Furthermore, its Horns, Wings, front left Claw, and three special chest scales for Armor runes, are all designed to have runes of their own in the future. A mechanism in its mouth will hold the item that creates its Breath Weapon. Finally, a cleverly concealed Adamant screw-plug longer than two dwarfs are tall is in its chest, held in place by a perfect fit and massive internal locking bars and mechanisms which are unlocked by secret commands given to the Gronti - and behind this plug in the core of its body lies its Heart Chamber. The animating Runes of the Gronti are inscribed into the walls of this Heart Chamber, while a slot for the future Heart itself lies empty. [Uses 192 Bars of Adamant. The theme of this: "A metal behemoth of the Storm Above and the Deep Below. Cladding itself in the Storm within, its thunder and might fueled by the endless vigor of the Deep."]
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening [T4 Greedy Troll Heart], Rune of Empowerment [T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart], Rune of Siphoning (Engineering) [T4 Greedy Troll Heart].
--[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
--[X] March [1 AP]
--[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
--[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 [2 Research]
--[X] [Difficult] Convert a Regular Rune: Siphoning to Engineering [1 AP]
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
--[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
--[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority, Additional Order: T4 Voidstone [-15 Kraka Krum Favor]
I know that much, but I forgot the details of what purpose it serves. Guess I should reread the old planning posts.
 
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[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.

Seeing how Dreng is doing seems good, also the Brynna in Khazagar would be neat.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

We really should learn how people are reacting to this.

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Hammer and Drakks

Making a Kaiju Dragon is awesome and finally finishing up Secerts of Light would be nice.
 
I'm just going to take a couple of the popular plans and replace Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun with March because there is still a war going on and I can't think of a way to sugarcoat this so I won't even bother trying: the thread's callous indifference to everyone fighting and dying against the Fimir is horrifying to me.

There are grudges to be struck out, foes to slay, and kinsmen to protect. We just picked up the mightiest weapon known to dwarf, so what are we waiting for?

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.

[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] The Enduring War Rune 1 Snorri + 1 Karstah + 1 Retainer. Already covered, this is for action tracking purposes.
--[X] [Difficult] Extra-sensory Pt. 1 2 Snorri
--[X] [Simple] Slave Wyrm Autopsy 1 Simple
--[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 Simple
--[X] March 1 Snorri
--[X] [Difficult] Convert Siphoning to Engineering 1 Snorri

--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti: An exemplary 45 meter Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. Rest linked in this post.
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening (T4 Greedy Troll Heart) + Empowerment (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart) + Engineering Siphoning (T4 Greedy Troll Heart). 1 Karstah

--[X] [Difficult] Build Azrilzhufgotten, The Silver River Banner: 2 Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Starlight: Due end of Turn 59.
---[X] Accept
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum 1 Retainer + 1 Industry of the North
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk 1 Retainer
--[X] Princely Hunting: T4 Radiant Pegasus
--[X] Queenly Authority, Additional Order: T4 Barazgal 15 Kraka Grom Favor

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] Accept Starlight
--[X] Drakk Rearing [1 Heir]
--[X] [Difficult] Design Skaudardrengi, The Singing Slayer, Emperor Dragon Gronti [1 Heir]
---[X] An exemplary Storm Wyrm forged from pure Adamant, with eyes of glowing Dronril shielded by metallic lids. It is as large as the largest and oldest Wyrms at forty five meters from nose to tail and its scales shine with power. The story of Kraka Drakk and it's inhabitants is inscribed onto its wings in panoramic mural and gemstones. This artwork and its immense might are meant to be a tribute to the Hold that Snorri has lived in for almost half a millennia, to mark Khazagar as a legacy for Kraka Drakk. Thus its power is meant to defeat the greatest members of the Dumi. It is cleverly designed such that it weighs far less than expected for its size and offsets some of its significant ground pressure. Furthermore, its Horns, Wings, front left Claw, and three special chest scales for Armor runes, are all designed to have runes of their own in the future. A mechanism in its mouth will hold the item that creates its Breath Weapon. Finally, a cleverly concealed Adamant screw-plug longer than two dwarfs are tall is in its chest, held in place by a perfect fit and massive internal locking bars and mechanisms which are unlocked by secret commands given to the Gronti - and behind this plug in the core of its body lies its Heart Chamber. The animating Runes of the Gronti are inscribed into the walls of this Heart Chamber, while a slot for the future Heart itself lies empty. [Uses 192 Bars of Adamant. The theme of this: "A metal behemoth of the Storm Above and the Deep Below. Cladding itself in the Storm within, its thunder and might fueled by the endless vigor of the Deep."]
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Awakening [T4 Greedy Troll Heart], Rune of Empowerment [T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart], Rune of Siphoning (Engineering) [T4 Greedy Troll Heart].
--[X] [Simple] Flamedrinking Talismans Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
---[X] Combo, Flamedrinking: Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame
--[X] March [1 AP]
--[X] [Difficult] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [2 AP]
--[X] [Simple] The Secrets of Light Pt. 2 [2 Research]
--[X] [Difficult] Convert a Regular Rune: Siphoning to Engineering [1 AP]
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Krum [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Expedition, Aiding Kraka Drakk [1 Retainer]
--[X] Order: Elder Stonehorn's Horns
--[X] Queenly Authority Order: Barazgal [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]

I know that much, but I forgot the details of what purpose it serves. Guess I should reread the old planning posts.

It's ideally supposed to cancel out the negative part of empowerment and combo properly so the dragon basically always has the empowerment boost going. Failing that, it's extra power for a build that is going to need as much juice as we can give it.
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, Waystones and Banner
 
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]

[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.

[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination
 
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