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I like this. She is also a master of genjutsu and can keep an eye on Noburi (I know some people were worried Itachi might try to secretly genjutsu nobs.)
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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It's in the vault. You don't monitor her training, but there's no obvious reason she wouldn't learn it.
You'd have to ask Naruto about that. Really, you seeing as much of that encounter as you did is already stretching QM policy.
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I was not thinking about Akatsuki in particular.
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Did we get the info about this cave from one of the Orochimaru lootboxes? Sorry, I can't remember.
There is one thing we should consider before losing SSA: Army of One. It's (probably?) easier to make all the AoO variants we want to make while we have SSA. (Right? I haven't run the numbers TBH.)
I wonder if we can use Jiraya's network to get information on Akatsuki's network. Regardless, I guess it depends on where exactly the cave is.
Does the family know about the cave? If so then we should probably consider it compromised.
Do we know if Kamui exists? And if so, how does it work?
OK, I'm convinced that we need at least Noburi. But I'm concerned for what happens to the clan if we take the rest of the team. I like the idea of taking them but I want to minimize the damage to the clan. Perhaps we can leave it to Gaku as regent or something?
Itachi could well be snooping around Mari as well. I'd bet on Itachi being better at genjutsu than her.
I think we should go build the Village Hidden in the Sky by the power of skytowers. It's really hard to pin-point a hidden outpost in 3d space. We can probably out-scream Kagome into letting us do it if we really try.
Edit: Can we use Scenery Clones to hide Hidden Sky even better?
Hmm, on the one hand going back to Leaf to then run away again gives us a chance to coordinate with the others better, but I think that overall the risk of Akatsuki catching us is too high. Once we go back to Leaf we have to be ready to defend it and not leave until Akatsuki is defeated.
Yeah, Kei would be sad if we ignored her (again!). Unless there's a plan that calls for an immediate message to Noburi? I think we should wait, given that Itachi is waiting at the compound.
Nah, Mist won't be able to protect us, even if they were willing to.
Woulnd't genjutsu be broken by going to the Seventh Path? It's a ninjutsu effect (sorta), so wouldn't the caster have to be nearby to maintain it?
(Sorry for the long post, but I'd rather reply to everything in one post than multi-post.)
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According to snuncle it seems like Itachi can create long term compulsions, though if he needs Tsukiyomi to do it I doubt he's spamming it all the time since it damages his eyes.
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Good enough for me!
That means people like Shinji can learn it, just to confirm?
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Hazō remembers Jiraiya describing it as a sonic genjutsu.
No. Primordial Sealing is extremely different from regular sealing.
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@Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien
Are there arachnids in the Seventh Path Arachnid Clan that have venom that could feasibly be used again jōnin-level opponents in the Elemental Nations?
Are there arachnids in the Seventh Path Arachnid Clan that have venom that could feasibly be used again jōnin-level opponents in the Elemental Nations?
Aodyssey
The glass will not protecc you
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We'd be relying on Resolve against, I assume, his non-Sharingan Genjutsu. If it's a diceroll it'd be the most important diceroll we'd make for this conflict. What are the chance we succeed? Can we do anything to prep?
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Yeah. The weird thing is we basically haven't done any research we wouldn't have done in absence of Akatsuki, and we haven't done dimensionalism. We haven't even made a weapon that would scare them. We could state all of that honestly.
The problem is we still really really really don't want to meet the Akatsuki right now after how they've shown they'll act. Asuma told the truth* and then they murdered him and used the village's inevitable reaction to extort everyone and wrap the village around their thumb. Fuck them.
I would happily suggest putting all the above in a letter, addressed to Akatsuki and Naruto both.
*stated from Hazō's perspective
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Certainly. IMO, we should wait to buy DoB and the expected loss to research progress from waiting is smaller because we are limited to one track. Going missing, our timelines are longer. We can rush less because Naruto cannot call us back. We do not know what fallout going missing will have. DoB accelerates our research more meaningfully on short to medium timelines than on long timelines. Not saying to never get it but saying we can afford to wait until we know Noburi makes it out safe.
At Sealing 51, we have eff Sealing 75. Dropping SSA puts us down to eff 63. We were always going to raise Sealing to 59 to max the PS cap. Finishing notes XP and leveling to 56 now is inefficient but narratively locks us in to qualifying for stunts gated by eff Sealing 80.
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Genjutsu 79 vs (Resolve 62 + (Alertness 40/3) = 76)
I'm just assuming what his genjutsu is here since he's also good at so many other things, only so much pyramid/XP to go around. Pretty close roll honestly, at neutral dice and FP parity Hazou loses by one shift. Notably invokes are declared ahead of time and Itachi has no reason to think he would even need to invoke against a chump like Hazou, so Hazou may win because he actually bothers using his FP
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If Noburi leaves Konoha to join Hazō, does he think that Konoha would be able to secure another Wakahisa's services for a mass Sannin clone assault in the event of a Rift assault?
If Noburi leaves Konoha to join Hazō, does he think that Konoha would be able to secure another Wakahisa's services for a mass Sannin clone assault in the event of a Rift assault?
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If truly desperate he can just have Kurenai genjutsu our piscitist into cooperation ez
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Assuming you're giving Gōketsu ninja free access to the vault, sure.
Hazō has no clue about current Leaf-Mist relations and whether ninja loans are viable, nor how Mist would react to learning about the rift (assuming Naruto was willing to get them involved).
[X] Action Plan: Take The Fam And Go
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- Tell Noburi we'll be back in a little over two weeks.
- Reassure Noburi that we genuinely haven't done anything wrong, and we've stared down Itachi before.
- Tell him to be firm, don't let Itachi steal anything before we get back.
- Reassure Noburi that we genuinely haven't done anything wrong, and we've stared down Itachi before.
- Sanity/Optimize with K/K/S
- Start heading toward that chakra-pool-cave in Wind(?)
- ~2 days later, send a ciphered message to Mari
- "We're going missing. anyone not with us is potential leverage. sometime in the next 8 days, exfiltrate team Uplift and whoever else you find it wise to include."
- More people/resources is good, but only if they don't blow the exfiltration.
- Burning bridges and cutting ties is good, but clan Goketsu and uplift projects collapsing is bad. Looking like we care about anything left behind is also bad. It's a balancing act, figure it out.
- Some possible ways to extract value and cut ties. use judgement. only do these if they don't ruin the exfiltration.
- exfiltrate ~all Goketsu ninja with you
- exfiltrate Tenten
- kidnap Ino ("kidnap", so remaining Yamanaka are held blameless.)
- loot the Uzumaki clan vault, especially of seals.
- loot anything else of value that won't immediately blow your exfiltration.
- kill Ritsuo
- steal the Monkey Scroll
- Include some SCSAs with the message, to conceal their skytowers when camping.
- Include notes from Kagome on how to destroy any sensitive materials in the Black Archive(Kagome's Bedroom)
- Consider burning/stealing our Jutsu scrolls.
- Clanmates have had plenty of time to learn them, and Itachi is likely to search the compound.
- "We're going missing. anyone not with us is potential leverage. sometime in the next 8 days, exfiltrate team Uplift and whoever else you find it wise to include."
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- As time allows, finish Capacitor Rune and read TH notes.
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- Let Cannai know what's up.
- Ask for an Elite bodyguard dog
- Offer contracts to all the dogs from the last raid.
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My understanding is that was the case, barring Mío, but the official post on who has access to what hasn't been update in a while.
Would it be unreasonable to assume that the new ninjutsu have the same level of access as everything else we have? I could totally see it having been restricted to chūnin or above, but given that we shared PEA freely…
Anywho. May I humbly request a ruling on this topic when time permits? It's causing me a bit of stress.
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Genuinely, why? These guys have appeared on screen like less than 10 chapters in the entire story. What difference does it really make? Do you want them to fight in the Akatsuki battle?
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Because my stress is, in almost all situations, from a completely illogical source.
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I'm not sure you fully get how trauma works. It isn't a full checklist, and it isn't a summation to 100% trauma trigger. Things can be fully triggering without being all the exact same, especially in the presence of the person who inflicted the trauma.
And that's without analysis that Naruto was not fully affected in fact, and that that case would look worse than what we saw.
It's pretty likely that Itachi will search/loot the entire Goketsu compound once we go missing. I don't perticularly want to give him SotS and PEA, but I really don't want to let him know that Mari has WWB.
I'd rather burn down the Jutsu scroll stash, tbh. Almost all of it will live on in the remaining Goketsu, but it protects it from Itachi and sends a message that we don't care about the Goketsu left behind.
I'd rather burn down the Jutsu scroll stash, tbh. Almost all of it will live on in the remaining Goketsu, but it protects it from Itachi and sends a message that we don't care about the Goketsu left behind.
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He already did that, and would reasonably conclude we are no longer leaving research where he can get to it
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Fair.
Also, I just remembered this passage:
I have a couple of ideas as to what she's doing:
- What if she predicted that we'd have to go missing and so left unconspicuously in order to be able to join us later? If so, we should find some way to get in touch. Maybe find some Schelling point of contact.
- What if she figured out that Akane has EM, and was kidnapped rather than killed?
Also, on the topic of Akane,
I wonder if these people are the ones behind what happened to Akane. Does anybody remember what sealing failure they're talking about? Is it the one at the old compound?