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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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again what is the point of the fire we are feeding? typically fire is for the heat, to melt something, would blood fed into the fire cause the flame to be able to melt the ingot? would that be something Thungni would want to runesmithing? to be dwarf blood based?
Honestly thats one of the strange things, I don't know what the point is. Alratan keeps bringing up making Glimril, but he's actually missing that the Glimril ingot seems to have already been made.
If Snorri's theory that these are all tests to hint at advances in runesmithing, what Thungni might be saying here is that your fire needs to be at least this hot in order to make Glimril.
 
[X] Blood.

[] Agshy

Yeah, we need to standardize self-sacrifice and this will go easier than using hair
on the up-side it will open new angle of research.

Still wish we could go further still.
 
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Its actually the opposite.
Look at the trials of Cleaving and Light. Showing up with the right equipment let us auto pass those tests, why would showing up with insufficient equipment make it give us an easier one. It didn't make a new trial with a harder difficulty when what we had was just good enough.


Are these trials just checking our mastery over the most fundamental runes? Snorri says he didn't think light was meant to be solved the way he did, were we meant to bring a super flashlight? Sanctuary is not "The Trial of Sanctuary" its just "The Sanctuary". Preservation prevents one hit kills like those beams, we might have just tanked that the hard way. Vision is probably the biggest weakness to the theory. However if its correct then the solution to this would be literally make it burn more fire.
I'm coming around to the Asqhy vote. I thought it was too simple at first but now I'm wondering.
Guess I'm going to have to sleep on it.

I'm not saying it would give an easier trial. I'm saying there may be other, harder ways to pass this trial that Snorri didn't even have to look for or think about because he had the right gear to make it irrelevant.

I'm also saying that if specific gear is required, it would be fair, that it would be something that the riddle's list of runes hinted at. Fire resistance would be a fair requirement when fire was on the rune list.

We can't channel magic, so we can't channel Aqshy into the fire anyway.

again what is the point of the fire we are feeding? typically fire is for the heat, to melt something, would blood fed into the fire cause the flame to be able to melt the ingot? would that be something Thungni would want to runesmithing? to be dwarf blood based?

I don't think it's about what Thungni wants in terms of a message or trial of character. I think it's a trial of skill to see if the runesmith can work out what the secret ingredient is to turn adamant into glimril from the likely hint of the dragon being present.
 
Honestly thats one of the strange things, I don't know what the point is. Alratan keeps bringing up making Glimril, but he's actually missing that the Glimril ingot seems to have already been made.
If Snorri's theory that these are all tests to hint at advances in runesmithing, what Thungni might be saying here is that your fire needs to be at least this hot in order to make Glimril.

Because I believe that fully refined glimril is purest white , not silver.

The natural beauty amazes even your exacting standards, what's more, your stupefied and potentially concussed mind notes how the silvery tint of the Gromril glints even more brilliantly with the blue light, looking as if energy is suffusing its entire being. It may be a trick of the light, but sometimes, in the very corner of your eyes, you see the metal glow brilliant silver and other times mayhaps even purest white.

What we're seeing is the silver of the intermediate stage when it's still a form of adamant. It says 'even purest white', the even tells us that it's somehow more than the brilliant silver, which we know is more like the appearance of adamant. In the gromril mines we saw the potential for both adamant (silver) and glimril (white).
 
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