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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Kuni Independent Seeking Seal (KISS)
Difficulty: Chunin
After a half-second delay, the seal will powerfully home in on the strongest chakra source it detects(a function of CP and distance, presumably whoever the kunai was just thrown at).
The end result is a kuni that flies normally at first, then abruptly twists in the air and homes in on the target, turning and accelerating to make dodging a nightmare.

Hazou plans to make stabilisation easier by embedding the seals inside the blades of ES crystal kuni, to prevent the thrust from making the kuni spin out, and activating them through MARS/ARS.
Any design space he can conserve by reducing stabilisation needs, he'll allocate towars better homing.
Consult with Kei Tenten for exact specs and design needs.


Kuni Independent Seeking Seals: Elemental Synergy (KISSES)
As per KISS, but activating the seal primes for a half hour(after witch it burns out). A primed seal can be triggered by agitating it with intense Wind-element chakra, such as the weapon-enhancement effect from CotWG.

The goal here is action economy, so Kei can apply CotWG and KISSES to an attack with a single supplemental action.

@Sir Stompy
 
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[X] Action Plan: Full Speed Ahead
[X] Training Plan Hazou: Runemaster
Sir Stompy said:
Okay, straw poll time, once again. Like if you want to keep things "need to know" with Kagome, and Hug if you want to tell Kagome about the mission and Naruto's orders for us and Oro
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The thing is, he does need to know imo. Kagome isn't just here to be a seal monkey doing whatever research Hazou can't be bothered to, he's here to help us kill the Akatsuki. That means ideas, it means Kagome comparing his estimation of the current WMD against what he knows of each of the Akatsuki. It means pinging his secret lore and his love of explosions and everything he can bring to the table in addition to his current sealing prowess.

Remember when we first invented skywalkers? We showed Kagome our ideas and he came up with skywalkers on his own accord once he saw our "sky pogo stick" idea. That skywalkers were already detailed on a later page does not detract from the fact that Kagome is a brilliant person who can absolutely help us think up more better WMDs, as long as he knows what we're actually trying to accomplish.

And I also think that Kagome deserves to know that we haven't abandoned Jiraiya and Akane like he seems to kinda think we have. He's been with us on necromancy this whole time, he cares about it as much as we do, and he can see that even on this secret research mission we're still not getting anything done about it. I'm sure he'll have a whole new set of qualms about the Snake working on necromancy at the behest of the Fox, but you saw how grumpy he was at Hazou here. We need this team working smoothly together and we won't have that as long as Kagome thinks Hazou's leaving family to rot.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
I'm sure he'll have a whole new set of qualms about the Snake working on necromancy at the behest of the Fox
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We are considering whether to tell Kagome two secrets:
1. That Hazo's sealing mission is to make weapons to kill Akatsuki
2. That Orochimaru is working on dimensionalism w/r/t the Rift

The discussion so far has seemed to assume that telling Kagome (1) necessarily also involves revealing (2). I don't think that's information Kagome needs right now. We can tell him that we're making weapons without saying anything about Oro.

I'm strongly in favor of telling Kagome that we are focusing on killing the Akatsuki. I do not want to tell him about Oro moving (?) the Rift.
 
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Left-Hand Mutant said:
Kuni Independent Seeking Seal (KISS)
After a half-second delay, the seal will powerfully home in on the strongest chakra source it detects(a function of CP and distance, presumably whoever the kunai was just thrown at).
The end result is a kuni that flies normally at first, then abruptly twists in the air and homes in on the target, turning and accelerating to make dodging a nightmare.

Hazou plans to make stabilisation easier by embedding the seals inside the blades of ES crystal kuni, to prevent the thrust from making the kuni spin out, and activating them through MARS/ARS.
Any design space he can conserve by reducing stabilisation needs, he'll allocate towars better homing.
Consult with Kei for exact specs and design needs.


Kuni Independent Seeking Seals: Elemental Synergy (KISSES)
As per KISS, but activating the seal primes for a half hour(after witch it burns out). A primed seal can be triggered by agitating it with intense Wind-element chakra, such as the weapon-enhancement effect from CotWG.

The goal here is action economy, so Kei can apply CotWG and KISSES to an attack with a single supplemental action.

@Sir Stompy
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Not currently taking more prep days this cycle. I got a little too excited. Save it for next time.
Left-Hand Mutant said:
Hey, wasn't Kagome working on reactive armour for a while?
Wonder what happened to that and what the difficulty on that is.
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He did, he completed it. It works -- sort of. It works in the sense that you can use it if you don't mind blowing your arms off.
 
Cariyaga said:
Also a possibility, but I suspect that adding additional functionality to the seal like that will increase its difficulty substantially.
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Probably! And it means that the armour will only activate some of the time.
This isn't a very promising or high-priority project.

And when it comes to potentially deadly weapons we can coat ourselves in as armour, I think Force Armour has much more promise.
 
Left-Hand Mutant said:
Probably! And it means that the armour will only activate some of the time.
This isn't a very promising or high-priority project.

And when it comes to potentially deadly weapons we can coat ourselves in as armour, I think Force Armour has much more promise.
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I suspect that force-impulse is much more workable as a non-explosive armor, but also less effective. Still not not effective, though. The difference between, idk, Armor: 1 and Armor: 3.
 
Cariyaga said:
I suspect that force-impulse is much more workable as a non-explosive armor, but also less effective. Still not not effective, though. The difference between, idk, Armor: 1 and Armor: 3.
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Nonono, Force wall armour.
Once we get practice on force claws/kunai, we make a bunch of variants shaped as armour plates designed to be worn.

Basically invisible indestructible weightless full plate armour.

Then call Kakuzu a scrub. Unlike him, our armour will hold up to nanowire, and we have seals to breath if we get burried. How's that for essie defences?

Still need to worry about heat/acid/ect getting in through the gaps, but it's a hell of a defence.

Edit: at the cost of taijutsu/RW offenence, we could also go for a force bubble. It's a simpler shape and would keep basically everything out. We can walk useing skywalkers and breath with tunneler's friends.
Just walking around in our invulnerable hamster balls.

And then attack with laser seals and genjutsu, I guess? Or just summon some doggos?
 
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Left-Hand Mutant said:
Nonono, Force wall armour.
Once we get practice on force claws/kunai, we make a bunch of variants shaped as armour plates designed to be worn.

Basically invisible indestructible weightless full plate armour.

Then call Kakuzu a bitch. Unlike him, our armour will hold up to nanowire, and we have seals to breath if we get burried. How's that for essie tricks?

Still need to worry about heat/acid/ect getting in through the gaps, but it's a hell of a defence.
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Oh no, I understood what you meant, I was referring to my idea before. Not the idea of force walls as armor, but force impulses, as opposed to explosions.
 
DanZapman said:
I would still like to figure out some lead or gold-based suit even for SCs
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"Hazo invented a superweapon, against which the only plausible defense is fairly thick armor made of solid gold, and Clan Goketsu is somehow rich enough that they've already started mass-producing such armor" seems like it could have some value as an intimidating rumor if first-line OPSEC fails.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Okay, straw poll time, once again. Like if you want to keep things "need to know" with Kagome, and Hug if you want to tell Kagome about the mission and Naruto's orders for us and Oro
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Okay I'm going to call this for the Kagome-sharers. Looks like it's about 2:1 in favor with my voters split about equally.

Sir Stompy said:
  • Kagome
    • Sanity check with Kei
    • Ask him if he wants to know more about the mission. Knowing his troubles with OPSEC
      • Kisame is regularly in Arachnid these days.
    • If he still wants to know, tell him about Naruto's mission and that he's commanded Orochimaru to move the Rift.
    • We can't be seen to directly disobey the Hokage, but we haven't given up on Necromancy and we don't trust Orochimaru an inch.
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Left-Hand Mutant said:
Nonono, Force wall armour.
Once we get practice on force claws/kunai, we make a bunch of variants shaped as armour plates designed to be worn.

Basically invisible indestructible weightless full plate armour.

Then call Kakuzu a scrub. Unlike him, our armour will hold up to nanowire, and we have seals to breath if we get burried. How's that for essie defences?

Still need to worry about heat/acid/ect getting in through the gaps, but it's a hell of a defence.
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What gaps? Start by designing a force wall variant which can extend, contract, and pivot to follow the movements of two paired seals, that should neatly cover the historically troublesome armpit and back-of-knee areas.
Remaining tricky parts can be dealt with by studying what happens when two force walls try to clip through each other, ideally fine-tuning it so "friendly" force walls are permitted to pass - perhaps by turning the whole suit into a linked array? - but unrecognized force walls bounce off harmlessly.
Single greatest weakness in IRL plate armor was the visor, but that's trivial when force walls are already transparent.

For additional over-the-top transformation-sequence showboating, counterespionage, and possibly even practical safety, add a storage effect. Summon bits of gold from preloaded pockets as it activates, sticking them to the inner surfaces of each force wall segment as mirror-smooth foil. Reflection makes it heat-resistant, probably helps against various light-based dangers too, and appears to be unnaturally sturdy metal armor rather than actual force walls. Thin enough layer on the visor would still seem transparent from the inside, same principle as one-way mirrors. Gold-plated force walls are easier to see, less likely to remove somebody's fingers by accident during assembly or testing.
 
Sir Stompy said:
[X] Action Plan: Full Speed Ahead
Word Count: <300
  • Buy to 4 FP on day 9 of the cycle
  • Sealing Research - on the Seventh Path, return for infusions
    • 1st SSA track - RRBs, max prep, double invoke
    • 2nd SSA track - Faster Forward Runes V1 or V2, full prep
      • Difficulty check V1 and V2 at the beginning of the cycle.
        • Research V2 only if V1 and V2 return the same difficulty and are "Hazou thinks this is well within..." otherwise research V1, if Hazou doesn't think he can do this rune, don't proceed, research CATEARS on this track instead.
  • 3rd track Force Walls, 4 days prep, infuse on day 5.
  • 4th track CATEARS, max prep, infuse on day 7.
  • Do prep days on the following seals/runes
  • Cannai
  • Kagome
    • Sanity check with Kei
    • Ask him if he wants to know more about the mission. Knowing his troubles with OPSEC
      • Kisame is regularly in Arachnid these days.
    • If he still wants to know, tell him about Naruto's mission and that he's commanded Orochimaru to move the Rift.
    • We can't be seen to directly disobey the Hokage, but we haven't given up on Necromancy and we don't trust Orochimaru an inch.
  • Continue learning TH
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Linking previous plans into plans is frowned upon, yeah? Are we not supposed to fully write out what we want to say, short of QM saying it is okay?
Also, if we spend another 40XP, are we going to have enough to get TH at our current rate? Honest question.

Edit: caught up to thread, including your analysis on safety margins. I still think FP purchases are usually less worthwhile than level investment, but at least it won't cost us TH or anything.
 
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Halberdier said:
Linking previous plans into plans is frowned upon, yeah? Are we not supposed to fully write out what we want to say, short of QM saying it is okay?
Also, if we spend another 40XP, are we going to have enough to get TH at our current rate? Honest question.

Edit: caught up to thread, including your analysis on safety margins. I still think FP purchases are usually less worthwhile than level investment, but at least it won't cost us TH or anything.
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@Paperclipped said it was fine this time and I didn't even have beg first. Ordinarily, yes, you are absolutely correct.

As for the buying, the intended reading is that we buy to 4 FP, since we already have three, assuming we spend 0 or 1 on rerolls for CATEARS and FW, it should be 10 or 20 XP max.

Truth be told, XP is tight w/ this PS buy and we many want to consider dropping the third track for a couple cycles after this one.
I am also going to stop doing as many prep days. I'll be asking my voters to pick at most one moving forward.
 
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Sir Stompy said:
Okay I'm going to call this for the Kagome-sharers. Looks like it's about 2:1 in favor with my voters split about equally.
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Suggestion: make the subsequent conversation a proper scene, include Kei, and share Orochimaru's dossier with them. Perhaps they have some useful ideas to contribute regarding countermeasures that might work?
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
[X] Action Plan: Full Speed Ahead
[X] Training Plan Hazou: Runemaster

The thing is, he does need to know imo. Kagome isn't just here to be a seal monkey doing whatever research Hazou can't be bothered to, he's here to help us kill the Akatsuki. That means ideas, it means Kagome comparing his estimation of the current WMD against what he knows of each of the Akatsuki. It means pinging his secret lore and his love of explosions and everything he can bring to the table in addition to his current sealing prowess.

Remember when we first invented skywalkers? We showed Kagome our ideas and he came up with skywalkers on his own accord once he saw our "sky pogo stick" idea. That skywalkers were already detailed on a later page does not detract from the fact that Kagome is a brilliant person who can absolutely help us think up more better WMDs, as long as he knows what we're actually trying to accomplish.

And I also think that Kagome deserves to know that we haven't abandoned Jiraiya and Akane like he seems to kinda think we have. He's been with us on necromancy this whole time, he cares about it as much as we do, and he can see that even on this secret research mission we're still not getting anything done about it. I'm sure he'll have a whole new set of qualms about the Snake working on necromancy at the behest of the Fox, but you saw how grumpy he was at Hazou here. We need this team working smoothly together and we won't have that as long as Kagome thinks Hazou's leaving family to rot.
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Noumero said:
Suggestion: make the subsequent conversation a proper scene, include Kei, and share Orochimaru's dossier with them. Perhaps they have some useful ideas to contribute regarding countermeasures that might work?
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Great idea! Will update my plan soon with this.
 
I think that in the military norms of the Elemental Nations, asking Kagome to decide whether he is read in on the mission brief amounts to taunting him about his OPSEC failures. I think that it will backfire spectacularly.

I'd fork the plan, but the entire Kagome section is a mess. We have a Sanity check with Kei, but Kei hasn't been informed of the actual mission either. The decision to tell Kei about weapons development or Oro's task to move the rift is also something that should be discussed.

Personally, I don't see any reason to tell either of them what Oro is up to.
  • Kagome
    • Sanity check with Kei: can Kagome be told the mission brief to develop Akatsuki killing seals, given that Kisame visits Arachnid?
    • Only if Kei approves: Tell Kagome and Kei that the mission is to develop weapons to kill Akatsuki because their dimensionalism ban is intolerable.
      • We can't be seen to directly disobey the Hokage, but we haven't given up on Necromancy
 
Um, guys, while I don't think Kagome knows about orders from Naruto or that Oro now works on the Rift, I'm pretty sure he knows we're trying to blow up the Akatsuki. In the last chapter, there was a scene which included the following:
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"Why?" Kei asked, one eyebrow rising. "What good is a lightsource that sheds light one cannot see?"

Both Hazōs shrugged.

"Dunno," said Prime. "Still, we're looking for ways to kill some of the most unkillable people on the planet. The usual suspects aren't going to cut it—I can't just make a faster rock or a bigger fireball. We need weird stuff that they won't see coming and that normal defenses don't apply against. Weird light was the first thing that came to mind. Maybe it helps and maybe it doesn't, but we have to try something."
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– and Kagome was present for it. So he knows that part already.
 
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