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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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[x] (Estate) Don't commit to anything yet
Velorien said:
We've mentioned this before, but using ES to build things around the estate will be a tax on Hazou's time that we'll extract at some point. For things like this, note that the use of ES may also be very visible.
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We're under a ton of time crunch and have tons of important projects to be working on. It would be nice if we did have to slow those down for the AESTHETICS
 
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Update, remember to read, as this is not the out architecture plan.

MadScientist said:
Okay! Posting my backup idea!

[x] [Estate] Links
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  • Design
    • Blend design elements from other clan compounds to represent the links to Leaf we have so far:
      • Uchiha, representing Hazou's ancestors.
      • Nara, representing Kei's marriage to Shikamaru.
      • Senju, representing Jiraiya's teammate (and Noburi's maybe-apprenticeship, but that's still early days).
      • Orochimaru's compound (he might feel slighted if we ref Tsunade but not him).
      • Sarutobi, representing Jiraiya's sensei.
      • Yamanaka, representing Hazou/Akane's relationship with Ino.
      • Aburame, representing our budding business relationship.
    • Architects are also encouraged to invent creative and modern design elements — we're a research clan, after all.
  • Construction
    • Hazou creates quartz for highlights.
  • Details
    • Hide Koi pond for FOOM OPSEC training.
      • Add koi gutters (to low-civilian areas).
    • Bathhouses.
      • Add waterslides.
    • Great Hall suitable for larger events.
      • Decorate with huge dragon skeleton carving.
    • Cafeteria.
    • School.
    • Clinic/Mental Health Offices
    • Connect up aqueduct/sewers.
    • Gardens/Greenhouses for Phytosealing Botanical Gardens to come.
    • ES relief carvings that resemble 2D/3D sealing on surfaces to hide real seals in the noise.
    • Research facility.
    • Subterranean complex.
      • Civilian evac shelters.
    • Lampposts.
      • Statues holding daybright seals?
    • Monument to the Lost [Temporarily in Another Path].
    • Statues.
      • Jiraiya colossus.
      • Other Gouketsu VIPs (incl Gaku, hehe)
      • Hazou's Uchiha ancestors pre-Kurosawa split (ask Sasuke for help).
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[x] (Estate) Don't commit to anything yet

I feel we're forcing an issue we don't have enough intel or spoons for....and i don't want to go for a "Basic and plain Clan compound". I like Links as a plan, but it is basically "mix everything together" and while i like it, i would also have more time and a less spoon intensive situation to judge it fairly.
 
Velorien said:
Mari would note the political implications of building a fortress, especially in the style of the Uchiha compound. Remember, the Uchiha compound was built by an ancient traitor to Hidden Leaf that anticipated that the Hokage might turn on him at any point. Also, because defense is its primary purpose, it's not particularly aesthetically pleasing.
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We have somewhere between "several hundred" and "nearly a thousands civilians living on our estate... would it be possible to copy the Uchiha's "city unto itself" layout without the Madara implications?

Does the Details segment of my plan provide adequate enough aesthetics to overcome the defensive tone of the estate (statues that double as lampposts, many gardens, artistic carvings, wooden facades, zen garden/koi pond, etc)?
 
@Paperclipped, @eaglejarl... questions/comments/concerns? I want to remove ambiguity where possible, and would like to know your thoughts on this plan.

RandomOTP said:
[x] (Goketsu Estate): With a Population Like Ours, We Need a Town Unto Ourselves
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  • Sanity Check everything (and vet hires) with Gaku, Mari, and Kei
  • Design:
    • Hire Shikamaru-recommended KEI-architect from NFF (flatters Shikamaru ; spotlights program).
    • Have designs based on Uchiha Compound (flatters Sasuke ; "city unto itself" layout we need)
    • Require architect collaborates with...
      • Kagome (maximize trap-setting potential).
      • Noburi (medical checks).
      • Mari (general I&S defenses)
      • Kei (sanity checks/optimization)
  • Construction:
    • Hire KEI-affiliated construction crews from NFF (spotlights program ; increase KEI connection).
      • Monitor for corruption.
    • Hazou teaches Reo Earthshaping.
      • Using Earthshaping, fix structural faults in (and hyper-condenses) all building materials (increases defensiveness). Use where proper, but Main Building will only use Hazou's Earthshaped materials.
      • Work with construction crews/engineers to ensure Earthshaped material is safe to use.
  • Details
    • Wooden facades
    • Several Kagome-approved...
      • Research Facilities (separated from other buildings)
      • Underground Evac Buildings (civilians)
    • Goketsu Event Building
    • ES-Reinforced walkways (QoL improvement)
    • Build Hotsprings/Bathhouses (increases hygiene and health)
    • Using HOWs, create many lampposts (increases visibility at night)
      • ES-condensed marble statues, holding the seal aloft?
    • Lots of gardens with water features, flowers, and fruit trees (supplements Food Bank)
      • Subtly incorporate defenses...
        • Benches that're comfortable, but also reliable cover
        • ES-condensed MEW walls around garden/park perimeters
    • (If Koi can live indoors) The Koi Pond Building
      • Built to Wataru's standards
      • Only entrance is breezeway, connecting to Main Building.
      • (FOOM Opsec) Zen Garden in same building, exclusively for meditation by Goketsu Ninja.
        • This should not be allowed to interfere with the Koi Pond's ecosystem in any way
        • Thigh-high, ES-condensed MEWs around the pond (as debris guards)
    • ES gold filigree into important buildings, using shapes reminiscent of sealwork
    • ES Private monument to clan's fallen in the heart of estate (provides solace).
    • With Mari, Hazou Earthshapes fully anatomically accurate Jiraiya Colossus. Clothe in Arachnid Silk garments.
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@Paperclipped seconding request for feedback.

MadScientist said:
Okay! Posting my backup idea!

[x] [Estate] Links
???/300 words
  • Design
    • Blend design elements from other clan compounds to represent the links to Leaf we have so far:
      • Uchiha, representing Hazou's ancestors.
      • Nara, representing Kei's marriage to Shikamaru.
      • Senju, representing Jiraiya's teammate (and Noburi's maybe-apprenticeship, but that's still early days).
      • Orochimaru's compound (he might feel slighted if we ref Tsunade but not him).
      • Sarutobi, representing Jiraiya's sensei.
      • Yamanaka, representing Hazou/Akane's relationship with Ino.
      • Aburame, representing our budding business relationship.
    • Architects are also encouraged to invent creative and modern design elements — we're a research clan, after all.
  • Construction
    • Hazou creates quartz for highlights.
  • Details
    • Hide Koi pond for FOOM OPSEC training.
      • Add koi gutters (to low-civilian areas).
    • Bathhouses.
      • Add waterslides.
    • Great Hall suitable for larger events.
      • Decorate with huge dragon skeleton carving.
    • Cafeteria.
    • School.
    • Clinic/Mental Health Offices
    • Connect up aqueduct/sewers.
    • Gardens/Greenhouses for Phytosealing Botanical Gardens to come.
    • ES relief carvings that resemble 2D/3D sealing on surfaces to hide real seals in the noise.
    • Research facility.
    • Subterranean complex.
      • Civilian evac shelters.
    • Lampposts.
      • Statues holding daybright seals?
    • Monument to the Lost [Temporarily in Another Path].
    • Statues.
      • Jiraiya colossus.
      • Other Gouketsu VIPs (incl Gaku, hehe)
      • Hazou's Uchiha ancestors pre-Kurosawa split (ask Sasuke for help).
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Oneiros said:
For Hazō since we're just waiting on ES 50 do we want to start studying out loot box notes again?
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Think I'd rather wait until resolve 68 which isn't long after that. After that since we're not getting a free note reading block per day anymore I'm fine with it, but I'd still rather stick to one SC block a day for notes I think. And I think I would prefer doing the med notes first for Biosealing since we know it's a more viable route to power than paper Sealing
 
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Shrooms said:
Think I'd rather wait until resolve 68 which isn't long after that. After that since we're not getting a free note reading block per day anymore I'm fine with it, but I'd still rather stick to one SC block a day for notes I think. And I think I would prefer doing the med notes first for Biosealing since we know it's a more viable route to power than paper Sealing
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I'd rather finish regular Sealing. Since we don't have a biosealing tutor lined up, and we can study the notes for the 3-6 months it takes to learn the stunt. That should be enough time to finish them(?) Regular Sealing gives us utility right now so it makes sense to focus there
 
Sir Stompy said:
I'd rather finish regular Sealing. Since we don't have a biosealing tutor lined up, and we can study the notes for the 3-6 months it takes to learn the stunt. That should be enough time to finish them(?) Regular Sealing gives us utility right now so it makes sense to focus there
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It's going to take ages to get like, a couple levels. I don't think it's as much utility as you're implying

EDIT: And we can't get a tutor in the first place without the Prerequisite stats which was my point
 
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Sir Stompy said:
This is big duh and I can't believe I missed it. I now think we should do Med notes first
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I do think we should eventually do the remaining Sealing notes too, we're just at the diminishing returns ones now (some of the 2 and all of the 1 xp per notes block compared to the .4 xp of a SC block) so I would rather just study them when we're pushing up the Sealing capstone as they're only slightly faster. Though if we could track down more 4/block notes it would be a lot more enticing to me
 
Shrooms said:
I do think we should eventually do the remaining Sealing notes too, we're just at the diminishing returns ones now (some of the 2 and all of the 1 xp per notes block compared to the .4 xp of a SC block) so I would rather just study them when we're pushing up the Sealing capstone as they're only slightly faster. Though if we could track down more 4/block notes it would be a lot more enticing to me
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Realistically there's Minoto left in Leaf we have a chance at, and maybe Sasori outside of Leaf. Can't really think of anyone else.
 
hmmm is there any way to automatically spend Noburi's Tsunade XP on his mednin skill right before she starts involving him in surgeries?

Since we're time skipping, we're going to miss out on at least another level that might make a difference.

@Paperclipped, any thoughts? It should be a straight leveling within a pyramid level with no complications.
 
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