Unaligned Player
Agony that desires to meet Extinction
- Location
- Adrift between sanity and madness
- Pronouns
- Shrug
The people here are not easily self-agitating. I wouldn't worry about that mate.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
- Location
- Yes.
@coldcutconvict Please accept feelings of support as given here.
In related news, I am now voting solely for your plan.
In related news, I am now voting solely for your plan.
That's 2000 XP invested elsewhere. It's a godsend for Hazou, whose build is so unbelievably fucked otherwise. It's accessible as soon as we have column space and don't need to finish boosting Resolve first. It's amazing.
That said. At a 3.0x rate, it takes about 143 days to generate that.
But Hazou has no use for these scales. Besides basic testing to see what can pierce them. We don't care about keeping them all. Or at least I don't. There's plenty more on the Seventh Path for harvesting anyway.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
@coldcutconvict as an apology
[X] Take the Deal
[X] Take the Deal
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I give decent odds that his current plan is to get all the parts and then 'lose' them.
Ok the worst case for revealing we value 10 packets in future negotiations is.
We get less goodies in a future deal. But still positive sum if we accept.
We do no deal, because we changed our mind to value more than 10 packets. But still own the parts.
Not ideal, but better than risking all the dragon parts.
As for Kabuto insurance. I'll trust that such a discussion would take long enough that Mari will recover before we finalize insurance arrangements and make sure they are good. So
[X] Action Plan: Big picture items
[X] Yet Another Set of Negotiating Parameters
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well there is another worst case of oro getting all he wants from the parts in 2 weeks of non-destructive testing
We get less goodies in a future deal. But still positive sum if we accept.
We do no deal, because we changed our mind to value more than 10 packets. But still own the parts.
Not ideal, but better than risking all the dragon parts.
As for Kabuto insurance. I'll trust that such a discussion would take long enough that Mari will recover before we finalize insurance arrangements and make sure they are good. So
[X] Action Plan: Big picture items
[X] Yet Another Set of Negotiating Parameters
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well there is another worst case of oro getting all he wants from the parts in 2 weeks of non-destructive testing
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
Wording is way too vague for my liking, idk.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
Pretty sure he expects to simply get them as a 'rental' and just not give them back.
Especially since he allowed us to go from a 4 week rental to a 2 week rental with no pushback.
This.
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Thank you! You are all very nice! Considering the deadline, will not make any edits.
- Location
- UK
Looks like my dreams of a four-way tie are dead. Normally those go pretty well.
Appeal:
I think Yet Another Set of Negotiating Parameters is likely to annoy Orochimaru and not meaningfully extract more reward from it. "Flexible on how many parts are in his possession at once in exchange for…" seems like trying to take advantage of him, especially given how much we are demanding for it, like we not even offering more time, just to be less annoying about it, why would he double the payment over that? This seems needlessly antagonistic, and therefore dangerous.
It contains nothing else on-screen, like To Sleep? Perchance not but unlike Take the Deal and Big picture items. I think an update that consists just of the latter half of this negotiation is not very interesting, that is unless it goes very wrong.
Appeal:
I think Yet Another Set of Negotiating Parameters is likely to annoy Orochimaru and not meaningfully extract more reward from it. "Flexible on how many parts are in his possession at once in exchange for…" seems like trying to take advantage of him, especially given how much we are demanding for it, like we not even offering more time, just to be less annoying about it, why would he double the payment over that? This seems needlessly antagonistic, and therefore dangerous.
It contains nothing else on-screen, like To Sleep? Perchance not but unlike Take the Deal and Big picture items. I think an update that consists just of the latter half of this negotiation is not very interesting, that is unless it goes very wrong.
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
EJ said that he'd be amicable to a one-scene plan and would be writing more. I can clarify 'then EJ writes whatever he wants' if you would prefer, but my understanding is that there will be more than one scene.
And, FWIW, my intention is that Hazo pitches 'one at a time' as a clarification of the original deal, not changing it.
- Location
- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Unless he's negotiating in bad faith right from the start, and is planning to keep them... But if that's the case, then I suspect that there's literally nothing we can do about it either way.
Edit: word choice clarifications
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
- Location
- Colombia
oh shit, i didn't notice the "per part"; yeah, that is abusive (to the extent you can abuse an s ranker) and likely to piss him off, that could be sacrificed as a talking point, but if orochimaru shoving the notes in our faces is any indication i say he doesn't want to negotiate at all.
also, what about the money?
also, what about the money?
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Like what? He can't force us to go to the Seventh Path and retrieve the parts. It's unlikely he's going to kick off a war on the Seventh Path to get them. If he meaningfully coerces us, then we go back to Tsunade, get Ami to involve Naruto, and then what happens happens.
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The deal terminates if one is destroyed. 'per part' is there as a safeguard if we give him more than one at once. I'll clarify this.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Yet Another Set of Negotiating Parameters
Havingfinally given the leading plans a proper comparison, I'm okay with this one as well.
Having
Precisely. You have no idea what he can get up to in his own lab, with room to use all his top-secret jutsu and nightmare-inducing biosealing skills.
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I am genuinely curious what means you think he has. He can aura blast Hazou and traumatize him into compliance. What else? He needs Hazou to go get them for him. Or travel to Dog and get them himself, which means fighting a Boss Summon on their own turf. Not the best plan
- Location
- Yes.
Several days later, Goketsu clan civilians start suffering from a series of unfortunate happenstances.
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
This will likely be the final incarnation of the plan. I am maxed on wordcount and it's an hour to go until voting.
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
- Location
- Colombia
kiddnap a gouketsu