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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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Idle canon note, the Axe of Dargo there is a bit shit.

MR Smiting, Parrying.

Yes. 2 Runes.

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I guess the Metaphysical weight of the thing is carring it beyond it's normal abilities.
Still, two Runes? Was Axe's rules made before the three rune limit was a thing in canon, or was it becasue it's wielder was broken enough as it was and they decided to downgrade it for the sake of game balance? Or did the Smith that made it just sucked?
 
[X] Plan: Optimisim
-[X] Odd Places 9/10: [Cost: 1 action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness. Look on Master Yorri's map and try and discover one of his marked locations. The locations will certainly be odd, but whether they'll be useful will remain to be seen. 1 action
-[X] [Simple] Defence. In. The. Depths: [Cost: 6 actions] Productivity like No Other will proc. Gain security. CAVES. HOLES. LIABILITIES BENEATH YOUR VERY HOME! It cannot stand, this glaring weakness in your armour that you somehow missed. Shameful! Absolutely shameful! This fault cannot stand, you will not allow it! You'll need walls, traps, all sorts of devious work done to secure your proverbial bottom, only after this is done can you even begin to think about doing something with all of this soon to be reclaimed space.
--[X] Retainer Expertise: [Cost 1 retainer action] Gain 1 progress. Cannot finish request. You have a troupe of Dwarfs perfectly suited towards securing such a space serving you. Put them to use, though they cannot apply the final Runic defenses, they can most definitely finish almost all of it. 2 retainer actions
=[X] [Simple] Armoured Maidens: [Cost: (12 -6) =6 actions] Due end of Turn 40. Productivity like No Other will proc. Gain 70 Favour and 1 Standing with the Cult of Valaya. The Clergy of Valaya are making plans to expand the Valkyrie Guard in preparation for what they believe is a coming wave of colonization across the Karaz Ankor in the future. Given your history with the Cult, they've come to you wondering if you had the inclination to create armour for some of the future Valkyrie Guard that will no doubt come from the endeavour. The number is not the sum total of suits, but ones specially made for their eldest and most veteran Matrons. The foundational core of the future Valkyrie Guard in these future-Holds. The Cult will hold the suits in their vaults until such a time they are needed. 3 actions

In order to finish the armoured maidens in time, they are going to need actions this turn.
 
[X] Plan Preemptive Appeasement

I just want to get the damn things done.
 
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[X] Plan Basket, plus prepare the defenses
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness, additional actions apply bonus to roll. Gain reputation and +2 bonus per action to Recruitment Dice. You formed these Hearthguard to combat all the ills that befall the dwarfen people. Send them out, render aid, earn goodwill and spread the word of your retainers and their stated mission beyond the borders of Kraka Drakk.
--[X] Elderly Expertise: Gain 40 Favour +? With Stormpeak. 1 retainer action
-[X] [Simple] Defence. In. The. Depths: [Cost: 6 actions] Productivity like No Other will proc. Gain security.
--[X] Expedite: [Cost 15 Favours with Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Cannot finish request. Can be taken x4 times and without actions. 60 Favors
--[X] Retainer Expertise: [Cost 1 retainer action] Gain 1 progress. Cannot finish request. 1 retainer action
-[X] Understand Valaya's Runes: [Cost: (12 -6) =6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd will proc. On the basket that bears her Master Rune, Valaya or perhaps some other Runesmith put down two other Runes. You can make a guess as to their purpose, but aren't too sure. One bears a similarity to the Rune of Load-bearing, the other the Rune of Healing. 4 actions
-[X] ORDER: A T4 Pegasus Heart, or Equivalent
 
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[X] Plan Preemptive Appeasement
-[X] (Simple] Armoured Maidens: [Cost: (12 -6) =6 actions] 4 Actions
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action]
--[X] Elderly Expertise: Gain 40 Favour +? With Stormpeak. 1 Retainer Action
-[X] [Simple] Defence. In. The. Depths: [Cost: 6 actions]
--[X] Expedite: [Cost 15 Favours with Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. 60 Favours
--[X] Retainer Expertise: [Cost 1 retainer action] Gain 1 progress. 1 Retainer Action
 
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- A competition has been laid down between the Elf Prince Laequalys of Chrace and Prince Gimli of Kraka Drakk to see who can slay the most number or greatest monster within a decade's time. A fine challenge to be sure, and ample chance for the young Drake to offer a good showing for his people in the face of Elven speed and grace! Bah, the elders grumble, a good axe or crossbow is a perfectly acceptable way to kill a monster, none of this sword and bow business the elf prince and his retainers, to admittedly great effect, do.

If Laequalys brings back a mammoth and Gimli doesn't respond with a 'that still only counts as one', you're a coward.
 
Just so we're clear, this turn is going to be spent finishing out the Valayan commission, yeah? With some sidework done Defending In Depth, via our retainers and favors?

[X] Plan Preemptive Appeasement
 
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......

I guess the Metaphysical weight of the thing is carring it beyond it's normal abilities.
Still, two Runes? Was Axe's rules made before the three rune limit was a thing in canon, or was it becasue it's wielder was broken enough as it was and they decided to downgrade it for the sake of game balance? Or did the Smith that made it just sucked?
Wiki says it got put back together from the broken shards of the original axe or something to that effect, so that could've been it.
 
In order to finish the armoured maidens in time, they are going to need actions this turn.
We don't need to do Armoured Maidens this turn to finish them. They're due at the end of Turn 40.

Just so we're clear, this turn is going to be spent finishing out the Valayan commission, yeah? With some sidewwwork done Defending In Depth, via our retainers and favors?
No. This turn we are going to debate on if we want to research Valaya's Runes (and thus get three new Runes to play with) or finish Armoured Maidens.
 
Because we're just as entitled to call what he says hyperbole as you are to call what any of us say hyperbole. Plus having what you say reacted to by others is part of posting on a forum after all and in this case he just said something that a lot of people think is hyperbole so he got a lot of reactions.
I was not calling you out on calling it hyperbole.
I was calling you out on what I perceived as an unwarranted case of a dismissive attitude towards your fellow poster.
If I am misunderstanding you, I do apologize.

[X] Plan Basket, plus prepare the defenses

It's an axe

The dudes name is Dargo

Ergo its gonna be the axe of Dargo no matter what the name ultimately is
Don't try to be cute with me.
Everyone here knows exactly what I meant.
I will kindly ask you not to try this again with me.
If you can't discuss this in a polite and respectful manner, I am disinclined to pay attention to anything you might say in the future either.
 
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