[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Yoink the Book

Also, really surprised Max didn't get anything. Was expecting a trait or something. Oh well
I'm predicting a new personal action, train with Russ, or somesuch.
Didnt our intreuge raise by the same amoubt the trait went down, and isnt the stat applicable to more things? Or am i wrong?
Diseased Lunatic from Danville: Most everyone thinks you're a moron who somehow managed to luck into a position of power, but some movers and shakers are starting to reconsider. Any Intrigue actions made against you or DEI have their DC increased by 20 points
Nope, 20->7 does not make up for +3 directly, though it is a lot more versatile as pointed out.
 
Yeah, we just had a *massive* piece of our safety net cut out from under us. We need to further enhance our defenses to make up for it. Time to upgrade the Normbots.
 
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Yoink the Book

The world isn't ready, and neither are we, frankly. And of course take the book.
 
[X] Yoink the Book
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."

As I see it, our current vulnerabilities are mostly on the technological field, since we dont have any defenses on that front, aside from maybe the DoofOs, which is fairly bare due to us not doing anything with it yet.
 
Not even close. The Scissors can open portals to anywhere the user wants, even places on the same planet. The Key is completely random and uncontrollable.
But we are renowned as a scientist a completely mad one but a formidable scientist now they're the worsBut we are renowned as a scientist a completely mad one but a formidable scientist Nethertheless .

it doesn't take a genius to get the idea to install a guidance system to uncontrolled teleportation.

Toffy wants to keep multiversal travel under his monopoly and the last thing he wants is someone whom might be an enemy having acess to it
 
But we are renowned as a scientist a completely mad one but a formidable scientist now they're the worsBut we are renowned as a scientist a completely mad one but a formidable scientist Nethertheless .

it doesn't take a genius to get the idea to install a guidance system to uncontrolled teleportation.

Toffy wants to keep multiversal travel under his monopoly and the last thing he wants is someone whom might be an enemy having acess to it
First of all, this post is a mess. It doesn't hurt to take a second to look over your reply before you post it.

Second of all, even IF we can somehow get the Key to target specific universes, it would STILL be inferior to the Scissors as the Key still doesn't allow for point-to-point travel on the same planet.
 
I think you're wrong. He has 2 different loyalties
Nah, those are rooted in the same loyalty. He is loyal to the ideals of the United States, which he currently identifies as the government following. Should the government ever stray too far from its path (such as being co-opted by a dictator or becoming overtly genocidal towards Toons and Supers) is the only way I could ever see Russ's loyalties to the ideals diverging his loyalty away from the government.

[x] "You're wrong, and I'll prove it to you."
[x] Yoink the Book (Moderate Intrigue Check to avoid anyone seeing you take it)

Doof goes big and loud, and Janna is a loot goblin :p

Given that the reason we still have a little bit of the "Diseased Lunatic" trait left, I'm kinda glad Heinz failed and/or barely passed some of those earlier rolls when talking to the other people. That is probably where the "people still think you're a moron" part of it comes in.
 
"Yes yes dead man's toe. All I need to check is-" Winnifred looked down at the page. "ONE POUND DICED PINEAPPLE?!?!?!"
In b4 it turns out, pineapple is one of the most stable magical reagents known to man and is widely used as a potion base, and also to give your brew that sweet, fruity aftertaste.

I'm not going to take the option of "I want to uphold the masquerade" under the reasoning of "Well it'll just fall anyway, right?". I want Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated to give magic to the masses, so I'll vote for the option that has Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated give magic to the masses.

This isn't a vote for actions or anything, we'll still be offered the same choices regardless of what we pick here, and will likely pick the same actions no matter what. But I'd like to characterize Doofenshmirtz as being willing to prove Russ wrong, as being willing to do what no one else actually is and spread magic to the common man. It isn't about waiting two months, it's about Doof being willing to take a stand and say that he'll find a way to give magic to everyone and prove the naysayers wrong, as opposed to Doof taking the path of least resistance and just hiding magic away like everyone else. It's about being Prometheus who vows to deliver fire unto mankind as opposed to an uncaring god who would keep that power out of mortal hands.

In short, I'm voting to characterize Doof a certain way, not because I want to take certain actions sooner or later.
I'm abstaining from this vote, but lately, I have been thinking about Doof and common sense, and how we should play him. Doof has no common sense, that's a fact, and sometimes that's inconvenient to us. But I don't really think we should change that, because lack of common sense is the source of his powers.

Because, seriously. "Common Sense" is just a list of stuff you can't do. "You can't break the laws of physics, Heinz, that's just common sense!" And then the young Doof asked "Why? Why can't I break them? I'm gonna try anyways!" and then he did.

Doof is like a Harry Potter Wizard, they're lacking in common sense, sure, but when you can make reality into whatever you want, common sense is just an arbitrary limitation. "Impossible" is a thing other people believe in.
 
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I personally beleive we should go slowly because I think if we do, then we'll have better odds of success. Sure, we should probably try to act away quickly, but we have enough on our plates at the moment that we can't really afford to focus solely on magic. I think that if we go slowly, then we can still go get things done without potentially compromising on our other fronts.
 
First of all, this post is a mess. It doesn't hurt to take a second to look over your reply before you post it.

Second of all, even IF we can somehow get the Key to target specific universes, it would STILL be inferior to the Scissors as the Key still doesn't allow for point-to-point travel on the same planet.

that is entirely true I never said it was superior.But it is a method of travel that no one else has.

Put yourself in his shoes he was nigh untouchable by anyone besides the witch guy The utter faith he had in his defensive flank is gone. Now he has to worry about us and the Witch guy. Putting him in a position where strategically speaking he is fighting a two front war or at least has the resources on us that he would otherwise be putting on the active war front.

this is terrible news for him because he can't really turn around to deal with Doof if it means leaving his back open to a nominal equal. But he also can't just leave himself completely unguarded as Doof secures inroads and potentially proliferates that power to the rest of the kings. He can't afford to fight an Earth bound alliance and the Witch guy at the same time.

the important partToffy has to assume the worst case scenario and put plans in action with that in mind. So We NEED that Inator working right now So we can actually fight back . Because we are an issue he will feel the need to squish before we grow too large.
 
Doof isn't relevant to Toffee's war at all. Remember, he and Phobos both have multiple planet's worth of resources. The Earth kings don't really have the resources to push against Toffee. They can certainly through him out of Earth, but they will not be able to make headway in the actual Metaworld wars.
 
So... had this pointed out to me by @bookworm702 . There's another possible reference that Winnie's curse could be making in regards to the city's doom being "by stone". What's Horvath's apprentice's name again?
"Hear me well and hear me wise, though meet we now with our demise. To stone we turn on hallowed ground, but peace, respite will not be found! With my last breath I do intone- thine doom as well, will come through Stone! I damn my soul now unencumbered. This city's days, I say, are numbered!"
Note the capitalization. That's unlikely to be by accident.
 
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I personally beleive we should go slowly because I think if we do, then we'll have better odds of success. Sure, we should probably try to act away quickly, but we have enough on our plates at the moment that we can't really afford to focus solely on magic. I think that if we go slowly, then we can still go get things done without potentially compromising on our other fronts.
Actually, we're getting relatively little use out of our Occult national actions so far because we don't have a lot of Heroes with passable Occult, and we're trying our hardest to get both a second action in that field, Malifinshmirtz, and the bonus from a full council either next turn or the one after that. Once all that is fixed, our abilitty to get stuff done climbs dramatically, and we have no goal we are currently chasing with magic. So it really wouldn't hurt our action economy much to focus on safely revealing magic.
 
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[x] "You're wrong, and I'll prove it to you."
[x] Yoink the Book (Moderate Intrigue Check to avoid anyone seeing you take it)

I originally wasn't wanting to do this, but the Common Sense is for lesser men argument swayed me.
 
Doof isn't relevant to Toffee's war at all. Remember, he and Phobos both have multiple planet's worth of resources. The Earth kings don't really have the resources to push against Toffee. They can certainly through him out of Earth, but they will not be able to make headway in the actual Metaworld wars.
Yep. That's probably Toffee's greatest asset: He is one of the few Kings who is fully capable of just, like, leaving the entire planet.
 
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Return the Book to the dark wizard Pandarus (Hard Diplomacy Check to not take it- come on, it's Janna)
 
Actually, we're getting relatively little use out of our Occult national actions so far because we don't have a lot of Heroes with passable Occult, and we're trying our hardest to get both a second action in that field, Malifinshmirtz, and the bonus from a full council either next turn or the one after that. Once all that is fixed, our abilitty to get stuff done climbs dramatically, and we have no goal we are currently chasing with magic. So it really wouldn't hurt our action economy much to focus on safely revealing magic.
Eh...Janna now has a 33 Occult. That's not nothing. Assuming Mal has as much Occult as we have Learning, and that seems fitting, he'll be another useful one. One of the other problems is that we need to boost our own Occult. Since Doof's bonus is added to EVERY roll, i'm hoping to get him a 16 or higher in every stat. Thankfully, this quest bumped Intrigue up a bit, so, now, power-level the Occult.
 
Yep. That's probably Toffee's greatest asset: He is one of the few Kings who is fully capable of just, like, leaving the entire planet.
Hmmmm....
That makes me wonder if we can possibly somehow find a way to cut his holdings on Earth off from his extra-dimensional Empire. Although such a step would definitly lie in the far Future of this Quest, even if it IS possible at all.
 
Doof isn't relevant to Toffee's war at all. Remember, he and Phobos both have multiple planet's worth of resources. The Earth kings don't really have the resources to push against Toffee. They can certainly through him out of Earth, but they will not be able to make headway in the actual Metaworld wars.

you are heavily underestimating earth forces.

Keep in mind most of these Kings could take over the world easily if it wasn't for other competing kings.

moreover both Toffy and Witch guy suffer from the Empire issue mainly they have a massive military but it's diluted covering a vast area and fighting an equally massive foe on a functionaly unlimited frontage.

I don't even want to consider how much resources he has tied up just occupying his worlds.
 
[x] "You're wrong, and I'll prove it to you."
[x] Yoink the Book (Moderate Intrigue Check to avoid anyone seeing you take it)
 
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