Adhoc vote count started by mangawriter77 on Oct 1, 2020 at 3:13 AM, finished with 122 posts and 31 votes.

I like how nobody has voted we give the book back. The only difference in votes where the book is concerned is wording. And that's hilarious to me
to be fair, giving the book back requires us to A: pass a hard diplomacy check with Janna to convince her to do so, and B: give the book of evil magic to a practicing dark wizard. Sure, Pandarus doesn't seem too terrible, but he did spend a ton of money on a book of evil magic for reasons we don't fully know and understand.

It just seems safer to have the book where we can keep an eye on it and its user.
 
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Reminder to the thread that we are going to have a Talk to Bossman Interlude with Russ this turn after quest, and choice we are making right now is extremely likely to affect its outcome.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by mangawriter77 on Oct 1, 2020 at 3:13 AM, finished with 122 posts and 31 votes.

I like how nobody has voted we give the book back. The only difference in votes where the book is concerned is wording. And that's hilarious to me

SV and SB are a loot gremlins of the highest pedigree.

also Doof.

It's only a hoarding problem if we run out of storage space!
 
I'd rather trade it in with De Spell or Xanatos for a book that we'll actually be able to use to the fullest. Because seriously, do you think Doof would ever allow rituals powered by children to happen in his territory?

In canon surely that happens at least once a day during summer?

Oh you meant the deaths of children. Completely different.
 
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[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Yoink the Book (Moderate Intrigue Check to avoid anyone seeing you take it)
 
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Yoink the Book (Moderate Intrigue Check to avoid anyone seeing you take it)
 
I hope this isn't the roll that crit fails...

Could be really bad when dealing with a actually evil book.

[X] "You're wrong, and I'll prove it to you."
[X] Yoink the Book (Moderate Intrigue Check to avoid anyone seeing you take it)

It says Intrigue to avoid detection, so I'm imagining the malus wouldn't be Occult based, but more destroying those positive positive ties we've built up. Which, yeah we don't need more enemies but honestly lets get the damn book.
 
Okay so Janna is studying the book next turn

Ludvine is on Power armor

Jumba is on Extra Dimension Inator (or something else if the DC is low enough to entrust to someone else)

We're going to recruit the Glooms next turn and reach out to Xanatos on the Tri king defense pact.

Mirage gets Sheep talisman and spies internally,

kitsune goes out and has fun with Doom

stewardship We move Doofhawk and give it personal attention to make it happen.

Max shadows Russ.

Russ either spies on us or teaches max

Khan should be free to go on a quest on the Feldrake world tour with Hego and maybe Tobi.
 
Okay so Janna is studying the book next turn

Ludvine is on Power armor

Jumba is on Extra Dimension Inator (or something else if the DC is low enough to entrust to someone else)

We're going to recruit the Glooms next turn and reach out to Xanatos on the Tri king defense pact.

Mirage gets Sheep talisman and spies internally,

kitsune goes out and has fun with Doom

stewardship We move Doofhawk and give it personal attention to make it happen.

Max shadows Russ.

Russ either spies on us or teaches max

Khan should be free to go on a quest on the Feldrake world tour with Hego and maybe Tobi.
We shouldn't make a plan until we know which Stewardship Hero's we're getting, what the results of the other interludes are, and what Wendy Wower's stats are. That said, Janna should certainly use the "Study Magic with Felldrake" personal action. We've literally never used it once.
 
Okay so Janna is studying the book next turn

Ludvine is on Power armor

Jumba is on Extra Dimension Inator (or something else if the DC is low enough to entrust to someone else)

We're going to recruit the Glooms next turn and reach out to Xanatos on the Tri king defense pact.

Mirage gets Sheep talisman and spies internally,

kitsune goes out and has fun with Doom

stewardship We move Doofhawk and give it personal attention to make it happen.

Max shadows Russ.

Russ either spies on us or teaches max

Khan should be free to go on a quest on the Feldrake world tour with Hego and maybe Tobi.
1 i'd rather upgrade norm prime first but we might better wait to have Wendy look over AI so sure,
2 Jumba is hungry for science so either genetics or Gal tech so can't do the dimension inator
3 no Felldrake world tour without Janna and Felldrake imo but we could do an other man's trash to get some nice salvage and explore
 
1 i'd rather upgrade norm prime first but we might better wait to have Wendy look over AI so sure,
2 Jumba is hungry for science so either genetics or Gal tech so can't do the dimension inator
3 no Felldrake world tour without Janna and Felldrake imo but we could do an other man's trash to get some nice salvage and explore

Power armor is probably a gateway to higher Martial I'd rather get that done.
 
Power armor is probably a gateway to higher Martial I'd rather get that done.
that's fair. and we likely need wower to clear our AI knowledge up before the upgrade anyway.
point 2 and 3 still stand. i'd say have Jumba do the human genetics it's dc 80 and with jumba if i'm doing my maths right we have a bonus of 110 so we could do it with no worry (except for a 1)
and the other action should likely be wower with AI/dubbel bodies so we are no longer confused about AI and can upgrade norm (and maybe finally contemplate him)

other than that instead of another temple dive (which we would be doing without most of our occult units which is a big nono) we could do one man's trash and have Khan, Hego and maybe Lizzy go in and grab us some loot/explore it.

we also really should get on the animal uplink suits at some point, they would likely boost OWCA quite a bit
 
that's fair. and we likely need wower to clear our AI knowledge up before the upgrade anyway.
point 2 and 3 still stand. i'd say have Jumba do the human genetics it's dc 80 and with jumba if i'm doing my maths right we have a bonus of 110 so we could do it with no worry (except for a 1)
and the other action should likely be wower with AI/dubbel bodies so we are no longer confused about AI and can upgrade norm (and maybe finally contemplate him)

other than that instead of another temple dive (which we would be doing without most of our occult units which is a big nono) we could do one man's trash and have Khan, Hego and maybe Lizzy go in and grab us some loot/explore it.

we also really should get on the animal uplink suits at some point, they would likely boost OWCA quite a bit

sure but we Need the Other Dimension Inator up post haste.

and we can do the world tour without him.
 
sure but we Need the Other Dimension Inator up post haste.

and we can do the world tour without him.
1 fair but Jumba will take a massive loyalty hit if you put him on it right now due to hungry for science.

2 yes we could but if we did it would be better to have one of our good occult hero's there. like Janna, or Kitsune. and i'd rather have Felldrake there becouse he actually knows (at least somewhat) what will be there instead of wandering in blindly without any of our heavy Magic support.
if we do the quest Janna or Kitsune are a must becouse then we have an actual occult score worth talking about instead of a straight d100 becouse iirc Ghengis has an occult of 7 when it comes to mongolian/eastern magic. we are going to norway, which is not that.
 
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Yoink the Book
I agree, we should help all the magical creatures that are being stepped upon by us petty humans. However, if we just start randomly doing stuff to break the Masquerade, we won't be fixing anything. We'd just make more enemies that way and cause a bunch of panic. We need to be smart about this. We need to come up with a plan in case the Masquerade does fall (in a way that is entirely not our fault) and we need to approach this with caution and consideration. And don't say, "But that's not in character!" We're not playing as Doofenshmirtz from the Phineas and Ferb tv show. We are playing as Doofenshmirtz from DVV. For us? The Phineas and Ferb version is just a reference. To paraphrase the immortal Captain Barbosa, it's more of what you would call guidelines then actual rules.
want to add that its not just non humans its magic using species in general as well which includes humans.
 
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1 fair but Jumba will take a massive loyalty hit if you put him on it right now due to hungry for science.

2 yes we could but if we did it would be better to have one of our good occult hero's there. like Janna, or Kitsune. and i'd rather have Felldrake there becouse he actually knows (at least somewhat) what will be there instead of wandering in blindly without any of our heavy Magic support.
if we do the quest Janna or Kitsune are a must becouse then we have an actual occult score worth talking about instead of a straight d100 becouse iirc Ghengis has an occult of 7 when it comes to mongolian/eastern magic. we are going to norway, which is not that.

fair Hopefully Lizzy can do it she does have a 30 Learning that plus the DC reduction from the key should allow her to do it.

Tobi and his goon squad can probably be spared
 
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Declare Yourself Evil: -10 (Russ is understandably concerned about a man who puts the word 'evil' on his letterhead.)

So can we get rid of this somehow from russ eventually as hes at the point he doesn't really think we're evil?
 
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."

I REALLY want to prove Russ wrong, but just rushing in head-first will only achieve one thing: It will paint a target on our back for the government (who nominally enforces the Masquerade), Xanatos (who ACTUALLY enforces it - at least in the area where from the government operates) and most likely the magical beings themselves (marginalized people hate being patronized "for their own good" - looking at *Autism Speaks* and similar "support" groups). That being said, nothing keeps up from preparing for the Magical Masquerade break by collaborating with Xanatos (the most magically-adept benevolent King around) how to best take control of the political narrative once shit goes down.

...Yes, I totally want to use that angle in order to canonize @AProcrastinator s omake about us two setting up Not!Hogwarts in some form, why do you ask?

[X] Yoink the Book

It´s less that I want to have that book and more that I don´t want nastier people than Doof to have it...Indirectly deprieving malevolent forces of a significant power-boost, you know?
 
[X] "All right, I get it. I'll keep things on the down low for now."
[X] Yoink the Book

Also, that Curse with 'The City's Doom comes in Stone'?
Say...didn't Demona cast a Spell once that turned almost all Humans in New York into Stone?
 
Figured out how to up Diseased Lunatic again.

Martial Write in - Order something at Bueno Nacho:
Not a personal action due to how much effort it will take.​
Much like the trait "I have my finger in a bowl of mints?", "Diseased Lunatic from Danville" was never going to last forever. Rather than try to improve it, let's just try to improve our defenses in a more general sense.

Honestly, to me "Diseased Lunatic" was more of a tutorial crutch that helped us not getting immediately ripped apart by corporate espionage before we could get start up properly.
It was never meant to last in the end, what with all our networking and shows of surprising competence when out of our comfort zone (if only by hiring actually-competent underlings)
As other have said, us getting more general boni like a flat +X in Trigue will help us more in the long run.

Quest: Moolah and Magic completed!
Janna has met up with Brocamas! She can do jobs for the leprechaun and possibly obtain magical items in return! 'Work for Brocamas' Personal Action unlocked!
Multiverse's Best Sandwich, Scrolls of Jo-Lan, Crystal Key, and Yáng Talisman obtained!
You have made a reasonable first impression on the Glooms! This warlock duo is of… questionable competence, to say the least, but they do seem to know quite a bit about the interdimensional scene, and they also have a couple magical artifacts on hand. They have been added to your Rolodex!
You have made a decent first impression on Magica De Spell! The witch will be open to buying unwanted magical artifacts off of you in the future.
You (well, Janna, but close enough) have made a favorable first impression on Eli Pandarus, who has suggested he would be open to a collaboration in the future!
Janna has made a favorable first impression on Maxim Horvath! He suggested that he might be willing to part with an Encantus at a future date, but not for money!
Open Ties to Magical New York Diplomacy action unlocked!
Networking in public among prominent movers and shakers has let people see you for what you truly are. Most people in the know now think that you're a moron, but one who gets things done regardless, and the people you surround yourself with are clearly formidable. 'Diseased Lunatic of Danville' now only provides an increase of 7 to any Intrigue actions made against DEI.
Doof's Intrigue has increased by 3! Janna's Intrigue has increased by 2! Janna's Occult has increased by 3!
Agent Russ' Occult score revealed to be 15! Agent Russ is not a spell slinger, but he has spent decades dealing with them.

You may also gain a couple of other things, depending on how you vote this interlude.

1. Janna being able to work for Brocamas will help us both in getting more magical artifacts we can use and selling off those we don´t need to Magica for some quick cash.
2. All very useful, although both the Sandwich and the Scroll will only become real moneymakers once we reverse-engineer them/their components
3. Seriously? *Doof* is complaining about "questionable competence"? I say we hire them ASAP both for more Occult oomph (including maybe them being part of our Coven?) and also the items they bought at the auction
4. As I said already, Magica agreeing to be our Occult fence has some neat synergy with Brocamas, if nothing else
5. Unfortunately, us (attempting to) grabbing that Evil Book might sour those good relations again, so I dunno how much worth they end up being
6. Neat, although it´ll probably be a less stable Morganian one by the time Horvath is through with it.
7. We need to do that Diplo action ASAP, especially if the Magical Masquerade breaking does happen earlier than initially though like was implied.
8. As I said, "Diseased Lunatic" was more a stopgap than anything else, so it withering away isn´t something I am too bummed about
9. Oooh, *Neat*
10. So Russ is now a *Semi-viable* option to deal with Occult stuff as well? He really is one our top operatives now.

11. We´ll wait and see about that point, but considering our currently-winning choices I think we´ll get some Loyalty buff for Russ and THAT BOOK at least
 
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