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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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I had the mental image of Hazou recreationally optimizing the households of his compounds. You know, making sure every (eight-family) household has a cook, someone who can read, someone who's good at talking to ninjas, etc.
 
[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Sausage-Making (No Dog Scroll)
 
Just wanted to point out this excellent quote:

eaglejarl said:
Asuma shrugged. "Nothing is ever certain, but that's where the evidence points."
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Not just for the quest, but generally. Excellent chapter as usual @eaglejarl.
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If we want Orichimaru's help, for him/us to be seen by others to be helping, or want him to get him better conditioned to helping us/the village, we (with Mari and subsequently Asuma approval) should see about (a) getting him to contribute a plague and (b) getting him to send his snakes to biting Rock in the rental area.

His motivations/benefits would be additional test subjects and to experiment in the wild with one of his plagues, as long as he has a high enough confidence interval the plague would be self eliminating. His only instructions would be to ensure Leaf has plausible deniability and that it should not be able to harm Fire (not just Leaf) ninja or civilians and should not need any period of quarantine longer than a month.
 
ting said:
There was talk of lowering the age requirement for voting too since most of the clans have young clan heads and it feels like useless bureaucracy. Should we add that to politics bullet 2?

Also, I'm somewhat worried that us trying to grab the dog scroll away from the ninja that Asuma has decided is the best fit will make us look really bad during wartime.

It's true that the dog scroll probably won't affect this war, but making the decision to put ourselves above the interests of the village at this time isn't ideal.
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Only Naruto is effected by the voting age because he lacks an adult clan member to act as his stand in, no one else has this issue so the clans can vote just fine. Not to mention that most of the underage clanheads are all around our age meaning they're nearly 15 anyway. I don't see why any other clans would care about the voting age at this point so it just sounds like a waste of time to push.

As for the dog scroll, the only interest the village itself has is having an active summoner. Beyond that it's purely clan interests on who gets it. Not to mention that you're right in that the scroll won't matter by the time the war starts, meaning the village and most of the clans could care less at the moment. It's the perfect oppurtunity to get it, and sure it's a sneaky way to go about it, but it's also fair and we're ninja. This kind of thing is just par for the course.
 
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[X] Plan: Keep Pandora's Box Shut (324 words)

Would like to have it check everything with the clan, but I can't pass up a plan that finds a skinwaste for the storage seal bank.
 
Yes, I want plagues.

[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Plague-Making (No Dog Scroll)
Wordcount: 260

Run plans by the clan.
  1. Estate
    1. Meet adoption candidates:
      1. Evaluate:
        1. Candidate fit.
        2. Willingness to join.
        3. Scope of issues.
      2. Offer cooperation/improvement in living standards.
        1. Haru: Better employment for Dad, resources, and dispensation to beat the shit out of Hazou during sparring.
        2. Aya: Access to well-read invididuals (e.g Hazou, Shikamaru, Keiko), money, and resources.
        3. Noda: Dealing with debt, nature of Reality, and alcohol.
    2. Continue previous tasks.
      1. Consult Aburame and Inuzuka on chakra beast farming.
  2. Politics
    1. Temporary adoption limit increase:
      1. Reasoning:
        1. Due to Leaf's current scarcity of higher-ranked ninja and destruction of academic institutions, Leaf should temporarily use the ancient means of educating ninja: the clan.
      2. Proposal:
        1. Temporarily increase the clan adoption limit to five ninja per year for three years. Evaluate results.
      3. Execution:
        1. Meet allied clans to find the cost of their support.
        2. Meet hostile clans to find points of agreement.
        3. Submit consensus plan to Asuma.
        4. If otherwise unfeasible, seek non-voting clans that would be amicable towards selling their adoption slots.
    2. Sealing sweatshop conditions
      1. Continue pressure campaign for better sealmaster conditions or working from home
        1. Mention Kagome's reaction to sealing sweatshops to ISC during politicking.
  3. Kei
    1. Thank her for helping us with our mental state. It helped a lot.
  4. Jiraiya's legacy
    1. Continue drawing from or maintaining Jiraiya's resource caches.
      1. Mention the cache in the Swamp of Death especially, considering the current plan.
    2. Try to reactivate portions of his spy networks with notes that we have.
      1. Reveal a fraction of what we have to drum up support.
  5. Implement Ami's suggestions.​
    1. Note feelings and emotions in journal.
    2. Practice daily with Mari on genjutsu.
 
[X] Plan: Keep Pandora's Box Shut
[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Sausage-Making

ting said:
Also, I'm somewhat worried that us trying to grab the dog scroll away from the ninja that Asuma has decided is the best fit will make us look really bad during wartime.

It's true that the dog scroll probably won't affect this war, but making the decision to put ourselves above the interests of the village
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This. Completely this.
 
One point that likely isn't relevant but should be mentioned:

There is no knowledge of the germ theory of disease in the EN. People have noticed that if you use the blankets / clothes / etc of a pox victim then you are likely to get the pox. (Substitute other disease as appropriate.) There are multiple theories about why:

*) The spirits of disease require the sacrifice of their victim's possessions in order to be appeased; passing those possessions on to someone else will anger the spirits.

*) The imbalance of humors that caused the illness happens when your breath carries too much of one humor (usually the Soul humor, as it's the only one that lacks visible presence) and this humor becomes imbued into the victim's blankets and clothes. Anyone in close contact with those things will absorb the excess humor, thereby putting their own out of balance.

*) Illness is a curse that follows anyone connected to its victims. Hence why the family of sick people are likely to become such, and owning the possessions of a sick person is a connection.

*) etc. There are dozens of them.
 
eaglejarl said:
One point that likely isn't relevant but should be mentioned:

There is no knowledge of the germ theory of disease in the EN. People have noticed that if you use the blankets / clothes / etc of a pox victim then you are likely to get the pox. (Substitute other disease as appropriate.) There are multiple theories about why:

*) The spirits of disease require the sacrifice of their victim's possessions in order to be appeased; passing those possessions on to someone else will anger the spirits.

*) The imbalance of humors that caused the illness happens when your breath carries too much of one humor (usually the Soul humor, as it's the only one that lacks visible presence) and this humor becomes imbued into the victim's blankets and clothes. Anyone in close contact with those things will absorb the excess humor, thereby putting their own out of balance.

*) Illness is a curse that follows anyone connected to its victims. Hence why the family of sick people are likely to become such, and owning the possessions of a sick person is a connection.

*) etc. There are dozens of them.
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I think you have also said before that this theory is not even necessarily incorrect in the EN.
 
Ipsos Custodes said:
Probably not common knowledge.
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Point of order: they're probably referring to plague spirits or something equally mysterious.

Tangential point of order: We actually don't know if the mednin superstitions have a basis in reality or not. It could simply be oblique references to germs and whatnot, but its possible theres a sci-fi/fantasy reason in universe that makes this a sensible thing to believe.

I wouldn't be surprised if most chakra related weirdness is chiefly caused by "Literally a simulation" or "Nanomachines, son!" at the end of the day anyway.
 
Kiba said:
[X] Action Plan: A Naked Mole Rat's Plan
Wordcount: 278

Run plans by the clan.
  1. Estate
    1. Meet adoption and evaluate candidates for fit, willingness to join, and scope of their issues. Also help them out.
      • Haru: Find employment for his father, resources, and dispensation to beat the shit out of Hazo in sparing.
      • Aya: Access to like minded individuals, money, and resources.
      • Noda: Dealing with debt and alcohol addition; grief and mental health counseling.
    2. Continue previous tasks.
      • Focus: Housing, education, etc...
      • Consult Aburame and Inuzuka on chakra beast farming.
      • Businesses and enterprises are moving in; hire pangolins or earth element users to build out underground spaces.
        • Make sure underground spaces are properly engineered.
  2. Business
    • Inspect the Goketsu bank. Make sure customer service are being maintained.
      • Pay raise for clerks; work the job a little bit and interface with customers. It's important to get feedback.
    • Talk to merchants expand the merchant intelligence network. Make deals to acquire information on other markets such as price lists.
    • Evaluate if academy dropouts could use storage seals? Do they have enough chakra capacity or ability?
  3. Politics
    1. Assign Mari to political problems:
      • Shimura estate ownership issue.
      • Temporary adoption limit up to 5 for 3 years.
    2. Try to remove pox blankets from plan due to difficulty of controlling pox and Tsunade's likely violent objection.
    3. Find non-voting clans who may be willing to give up slots in exchange for money/favor/etc.
  4. Jiraiya's legacy
    1. Continue drawing from or maintaining Jiraiya's resource caches.
      1. Mention the cache in the Swamp of Death especially, considering the current plan.
    2. Try to reactivate portions of his spy networks with notes that we have.
      1. Reveal a fraction of what we have to drum up support.
  5. Implement Ami's suggestions.
    1. Note feelings and emotions in journal.
    2. Practice daily with Mari on genjutsu.
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Add checking for academy dropout.

MMKII said:
[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Sausage-Making (No Dog Scroll)
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Your plan didn't formalize ownership of the Shimura estate.
 
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Honestly speaking, I think we should postpone resolving the Shimura Estate issue. It's not immediately pressing issue because nobody is incentivized to make an issue about it in the short term, and we're already handling a huge number of other actually pressing issues; I'd like to resolve some of those first and then tackle the Shimura Estate issue.
 
huhYeahGoodPoint said:
Honestly speaking, I think we should postpone resolving the Shimura Estate issue. It's not immediately pressing issue because nobody is incentivized to make an issue about it in the short term, and we're already handling a huge number of other actually pressing issues; I'd like to resolve some of those first and then tackle the Shimura Estate issue.
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But what if Danzou returns? We should also change the law so that he can't take it back.

Nagato had his resurrection ability, I doubt Danzou just died. :V


[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Plague-Making (No Dog Scroll)

@MMKII , can we ask Asuma for access to Biosealing stuff? We were trying to bully the youthful Hiashi for it, but we don't ask our new friendly Hokage?
 
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@MMKII , can we ask Asuma for access to Biosealing stuff? We were trying to bully the youthful Hiashi for it, but we don't ask our new friendly Hokage?
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*glances at what Mari said about biosealing notes just last chapter*
*glances at Hazou being rated unfit for any sealwork whatsoever, let alone biosealing*
Yeah that's a no from me, sorry.
 
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