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Can I request a citation on that being confidential if it's not too much trouble? A magic seems fairly hard to hide from Kyubey, especially given that it can surely observe the disentangling of her soul. It's true that she might be able to obscure its nature, given that she doesn't hunt and or fight and it's a non-obvious sort of thing, but a big social event such as this doesn't quite mesh with the privacy sphere, so if it could be avoided...
Why not?
I think you're discarding this too easily. I don't really see why we can't do exactly that -- grab Sayaka sometime today or tomorrow and just tell her to come to us first if it happens. We already told her that it's a complex, muddy issue intertwined with other problems. What do we actually lose with that?
Technically not known, I don't think. I doubt they're really communicating -- Sayaka is mad that it hurt Mami -- but it's worth noting that for example Homura and Sayaka spoke with each other even almost up to Sayaka's witching in Canon's final loop, and Sayaka felt that Homura was more/less at fault for Mami's death. If it's going on, it's probably more like our interactions with Kyubey -- "punt, kick, dropkick, FOFA?" -- than anything else, but it's definitely important to remember that the incubator is free to talk at our friends if it wants.
We have, I believe, a simpler option.
The reason I originally included asking Homura to stick around -- and why I used that language rather than something more like what it's becoming -- is that I figured we could fit in asking Mami to give Homura some exposition about herself after dinner. I'll expand on the notion:
You're quite right to move in the general direction of having people "explain themselves" to Homura, for a lot of different reasons. First off, as we've started to see, Homura lacks an effective understanding of... basically everyone, and it makes it difficult for her to understand why the things we're saying are good ideas. So, obviously getting her that information is useful for e.g. getting her to lighten up on Oriko. Second, it's potentially a way to get the rest of our group more involved with Homura. Ignoring the direct verbal exchange, there's a lot of subtext involved not only in the reactions of the people involved during the exchange but also in our requesting the exchange at all. I strongly doubt that Mami, Sayaka, etc understand that Homura isn't aware that they care about her, and passing that understanding through the subtext of these exchanges is something I view as highly desirable.
In fewer words, this is a way for us to tell people about who Homura is without talking about her past.
You're also right, however, that going through talking with everyone and beseeching them to do this and to not ask too many questions and etcetera would be pretty burdensome.
Thing is, I don't think we need to do that. I think we can just have Mami go through this process without any complicated preparation by asking her to trust us, then let her make a bunch of inferences about why we asked her to do it and ask her if she'd speak with the rest of the group about doing something similar. If Mami tells Sayaka that she thinks this is a good idea and helpful, Sayaka will go for it. If Sayaka goes for it and then goes and tells everybody else that it was a good idea... Then, well, that's that and we can do this with everyone else -- assuming we want to, I mean.
So basically, what I was thinking with
[] Ask Homura to stick around for a while after by telepathy.
was (voting willing, obviously, and I don't know when this next post is going to take us to)
[] Ask Homura to stick around for a while after by telepathy.
[] Sit down with Mami and Homura. Tell Homura that you think she had ought to hear this and that she doesn't have to do anything but listen. Ask Mami to walk through how her opinion of and feelings about Homura have changed from their meeting until now, including what caused those changes and why.
-[] Track things. Let people ask questions & talk; screen for Homura if something uncomfortable comes up... be a good friend.
And, I mean... it's Mami. Not only is she going to be okay with this because we're asking her to do it, but she's probably going to catch on pretty quickly to why we're asking her to do it. And... it should just work. We don't need to explain or justify anything -- she trusts us, and she cares about Homura.
Y'know, I was really big on that too. But TBH, I genuinely don't care right now. If we keep having monumental successes like that last post was... I mean, getting Homura to agree without coercion to sharing her past with the others is probably inches away from a quest win. If we're going to make strides like this, asking Homura about last loop can wait a bit longer.
Please let me know if anything in here is unclear. Thanks for reading; have a nice night.
