Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Roomba · Jun 21, 2018

I love how the overall sentiment here is "This went really well and achieved all of its objectives. Now, how do we prevent the fourth great ninja war from starting?".

Drasky said:
Doesn't matter in the end.

The place is full of hundreds of ninja. If they go along with the stampede in order not to give themselves away and not get disqualified then that is squarely on them.

Why should Hazou matyr himself from them when half of the stampede is made out of ninja that can easily get themselves out of the situation.

If someone is to take responsibility then it should be the brainlet that set the tag in the first place.

[X] Poll: Leave the Proctors to Protect People

That's my thinking as well. The majority of the crowd are ninja, the heat isn't actually dangerous to anyone, there are multiple proctors present, and the candidates have to know that taking part in a stampede is all but guaranteed to pop their Henge. I don't think we particularly need to do anything, aside from guaranteeing Hazou's safety.

Kiba said:
So, I wonder what was Keiko thinking when we proposed this bold plan.

I wonder what Nara was thinking when we proposed this bold plan.

Keiko was thinking what she told Akane. I would hazard a guess that Shikamaru was thinking along similar lines. They both failed to account for the possible actions of people much dumber than themselves.

MMKII said:
We would be in jail, executed on the spot or disowned and put on the front lines as canon fodder in the inevitable war that ensues.

Regardless of the outcome Akatsuki has free reign to sink the world into the bottomless pits of nuclear hellfire or whatever the hell they want to do.

The Akatsuki want to save the world from Sage and Dummy, as confirmed in CfG.

faflec · Jun 21, 2018

Roomba said:
The Akatsuki want to save the world from Sage and Dummy, as confirmed in CfG.

CfG!Akatsuki wants to save the world from Sage and Dummy, our Akatsuki has unknown motivations.

Inferno Vulpix · Jun 21, 2018

Roomba said:
as confirmed in CfG.

I would expect the QMs to give Akatsuki that motivation in CfG whether or not it was true in MfD, if for no other reason than to mess with us, so I can't derive any information out of that.

Velorien · Jun 21, 2018

Kiba said:
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Better?

Kiba · Jun 21, 2018

Velorien said:
Better?

Yes.

What do you mean by everyone is blind?

Oneiros · Jun 21, 2018

Kiba said:
Yes.

What do you mean by everyone is blind?

Dark and surrounded with mist

Emstar · Jun 21, 2018

Honestly the second someone starts getting stepped on their Henge is going to pop, they'll be DQed and if they had an INT score above 0 they would take that opportunity to aggressively get the fuck out of that situation.

Anderkent said:
A 'stampede' of 200 people in an open area is not that big of a deal - it's density that matters, and people aren't that packed initially. If they all go for the door, we might have a problem; but a ninja - even genin - seeing a blocked in door is probably not gonna limit their own mobility by running and pushing into the crowd, and will either go around, try to scale the wall to get to a window, or become creative.

I think this is a 'you trip, you get ran over by a couple people and have bad bruising', not 'you trip, you dead' scenario.

This is important to keep in mind: I would hazard a guess that most regular humans would come out in this scenario unscathed besides some nasty bruising.

The majority of the crowd isn't regular people, they're trained super soldiers.

By and large this is problematic for us if and only if we are caught in the mansion before everyone gets in there. If we are then it truly does look like we just set off a stampede directly into our alcoholic mist trap.

This is to be avoided at all costs.

Exmorri · Jun 21, 2018

Nihil supernum is all very well and good when you're a designated protagonist with unique superpowers and a uniquely superpowered mentor too and a time machine and free adulthood and and and. Here, though, it seems to me Hazou has mostly standard ninja abilities available and it's mostly lots of other people who have the both the unique powers and the super powers.

Emstar · Jun 21, 2018

Kiba said:
Yes.

What do you mean by everyone is blind?

Velorien said:
For information:

Edit: Also everyone is blind.

What do you mean by blind? They can't see us? They're one zone away so unless something strange happened in addition to the explosion they shouldn't be blinded by anything yet.

Cariyaga · Jun 21, 2018

MMKII said:
What do you mean by blind? They can't see us? They're one zone away so unless something strange happened in addition to the explosion they shouldn't be blinded by anything yet.

They're blinded by tipserators.

faflec · Jun 21, 2018

MMKII said:
What do you mean by blind? They can't see us? They're one zone away so unless something strange happened in addition to the explosion they shouldn't be blinded by anything yet.

They can't see far ahead of themselves, and the drunkerator might be blocking LOS to an extent.

fiirofa · Jun 21, 2018

[X] Poll: Leave the Proctors to Protect People

Kiba · Jun 21, 2018

Can someone draw up the mansion layout for better visualization?

MadScientist · Jun 21, 2018

Exmorri said:
Nihil supernum is all very well and good when you're a designated protagonist with unique superpowers and a uniquely superpowered mentor too and a time machine and free adulthood and and and. Here, though, it seems to me Hazou has mostly standard ninja abilities available and it's mostly lots of other people who have the both the unique powers and the super powers.

The point of Nihil Supernum isn't "I'm the only one in a position to be a hero, so I have to do it because no one else can", it's "I can't be sure that everything will be fine if I don't help, therefore I must do everything I can, and if I fail then it's my own fault for not having previously amassed enough power to succeed here".

Not advocating for or against, just explaining the position.

Cariyaga · Jun 21, 2018

As soon as henges start popping (which will happen fast with the shoving and whatnot going on), the genin are going to get out of the crowd.

I don't think the stampede is that much a risk.

Oneiros · Jun 21, 2018

So what would happen if we dropped a banshee fucker in the middle of the crowd?

MadScientist · Jun 21, 2018

Oneiros said:
So what would happen if we dropped a banshee fucker in the middle of the crowd?

*thwaps with herring*

faflec · Jun 21, 2018

Oneiros said:
So what would happen if we dropped a banshee fucker in the middle of the crowd?

Mass panic, casualties from lungs exploding, more casualties from contestants thinking it's an actual assassination attempt and killing [mostly civilians].

Oneiros · Jun 21, 2018

MadScientist said:
*thwaps with herring*

I'm moderately serious. Most scenarios are going to end up with us getting fucked. Thinking our game should be escalation

ContextBot · Jun 21, 2018

Oneiros said:
So what would happen if we dropped a banshee fucker in the middle of the crowd?

Aren't we going to hurt civilians and proctors? If not, let's spam them!

Emstar · Jun 21, 2018

ContextBot said:
Aren't we going to hurt civilians and proctors? If not, let's spam them!

This is all but guaranteed to get us disqualified and reprimanded afterwards, and causing significant injury.

Oneiros said:
I'm moderately serious. Most scenarios are going to end up with us getting fucked. Thinking our game should be escalation

I don't think escalating this into a chaotic brawl /death match melee is to our advantage.

MadScientist · Jun 21, 2018

Oneiros said:
I'm moderately serious. Most scenarios are going to end up with us getting fucked. Thinking our game should be escalation

Well I think we should be channeling the protagonist of Twig. This kind of chaos is unpredictable in predictable ways. If, right now, we picked some nearby ninja and yelled "How dare you! There are fucking civilians here! Are you trying to kill them?!" then suddenly the crowd has a target for their fear and anger. We slip away while the accused tries to defend themselves.

ContextBot · Jun 21, 2018

MMKII said:
This is all but guaranteed to get us disqualified and reprimanded afterwards, and causing significant injury.

I don't think escalating this into a chaotic brawl /death match melee is to our advantage.

Just ignoring it doesn't mean it's going to end up safe though, that's really all I am saying.

faflec · Jun 21, 2018

MadScientist said:
Well I think we should be channeling the protagonist of Twig. This kind of chaos is unpredictable in predictable ways. If, right now, we picked some nearby ninja and yelled "How dare you! There are fucking civilians here! Are you trying to kill them?!" then suddenly the crowd has a target for their fear and anger. We slip away while the accused tries to defend themselves.

And then it turns out that person is a civilian.

Cue shitpocalypse.

Roomba · Jun 21, 2018

[X] Poll: Leave the Proctors to Protect People

faflec said:
CfG!Akatsuki wants to save the world from Sage and Dummy, our Akatsuki has unknown motivations.

Inferno Vulpix said:
I would expect the QMs to give Akatsuki that motivation in CfG whether or not it was true in MfD, if for no other reason than to mess with us, so I can't derive any information out of that.

That's the joke.gif

Another thing that's confirmed in CfG is that the Hokage's civilian advisor is the Sage, by the way.

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