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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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I suspect the reason Nuln didn't give us Obscure and Esoteric Imperial books on the Druuchi is that the Empire doesn't have Obscure or Esoteric books on the Druuchi at all - the two states barely interact, with only the occasional raids on the Empire's north coast reminding the Empire that they exist.
Well that is something we can ask since the book contacts would know IC. @Boney is this as large far as the imperial collection of books on the Druchi goes or do they have the full +5?
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I'm pretty sure Boney has every culture either give a full +5 or none at all for a topic, to simplify bookkeeping.
Though speaking of books, I guess the GUoN only does major gods (as in major enough to make chargen) since I didn't see any for, say, Handrich, even though there was one for Khaine. As for another god thing, should we out-of-pocket the remaining 100gc of Ulric books, what with that religious schism probably being relevant to us?
Though speaking of books, I guess the GUoN only does major gods (as in major enough to make chargen) since I didn't see any for, say, Handrich, even though there was one for Khaine. As for another god thing, should we out-of-pocket the remaining 100gc of Ulric books, what with that religious schism probably being relevant to us?
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KleverKil'Vanya
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Well I dunno how I lost track of this quest, but it looks like I'll have to reread it to figure things out, how tragic~
We have Minor Gods of the Old World of the Old World in our library:
I would guess Handrich falls in that topic. I would also guess that Nuln University had at least a +1 on that topic, but we'll never know because we had the +5 in advance.
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Then again, Boney did say yes about if Handrich was its own book category. Or maybe that's only for Marienburg stuff. (Does Marienburger even consistute a separate nationality on the shelves, or is it still functionally Imperial from not enough cultural divergence?) On the other hand, I can also find a WoQM saying Imperials didn't have books on Estalia, so the point seems to be that what appears in quest updates and official informational sheets overrides old WoQMs.
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- Somewhere between the stars
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- She/Her
I believe Kragg know of Eike from when we ordered the Brahrune training sword and Kragg basically went "why are you bothering for the top runesmith in all of drawrven realm for a training sword", and sent us off to this runesmith family instead.
Dunno if Kragg meet her, but at very least he would know of her. I do also feel, that at least as afriend umgi of some competence, he'd at very least keep an slight eye out on for rumours and stuff surronding Mathilde
Dunno if Kragg meet her, but at very least he would know of her. I do also feel, that at least as a
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
This isnt the case. We know the Karaz Ankor only has books up to Extensive for Greatswords via the Cult of Gazul, but aside from them it's not a weapon they use, so they don't have Obscure or higher.
Back when we were Loremaster, people bought Karaz Ankor books on Sevir, the Winds of Magic, up to Extensive, and I assume that's the limit because a) the most Runesmiths get close to the Winds in general is to use them to charge runes, and b) if there were more the thread would have immediately bought them.
Edit 2: Nevermind, I've been searching and all I found was that a) the Karaz Ankor has no actual knowledge on Druchii besides records on when their ships were attacked by them at sea, which is not enough to get even one point of a library bonus, and b) the Empire is the one polity on the planet that, besides dwarves, interacts the least with Druchii. It is possible that the most we have on them is up to Extensive.
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Well if we cannot get anymore books on the dark elves we cannot get anymore, the thing I am more focused on is what to take as a third option. Some ideas:
- Geography books on the Southlands or books about the lizardmen, they might help with writing the papers commenting on the work of the Asur explorer
- Finish off our books about the Mountains of Mourne or if we can grab it books about the Ogre Kingdoms. It is a very long term thing but it we could get some more Wasystone gold it would be very useful. I mean for one we would be able to do something closer to the design of the original and that has really stood the test of time. True we would never be able to do so for all Waystones, but some is better than none and we could save the titan mental capstones for high priority stones in places where they might get disturbed
- Books about er.. boats, not even sure what that would come under, naval tactics maybe. Eike loves those and it is a good thing for her to have hobbies, helps keep her sane. Just ask Mathilde about her romance
and smutcollection.
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Not available, I asked about this a few months ago when you first proposed the idea, because it was a good one for last turn's purchase round if it were viable:
I agree that there's no obvious third for an Ulthuan/Nehekhara Barak Varr purchase, but maybe one will turn up over the course of the rest of the turn. And if not, I am fine with just getting 10 points of books about naval warfare and letting Eike have some fun on her downtime, that's a cute idea. Or we could shrug off the inefficiency and just use it to flesh out the Dwarf half of a topic we have full Imperial books on, like Tilea or Estalia.
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How about a second set of books on Nehekara?
My preference would be for the Pantheon books, but Incantations could be interesting.
My preference would be for the Pantheon books, but Incantations could be interesting.
I mean could we even get those with a Barak Var purchase? They sound like the kind of exotic magical/religious books that one has to go to the Colleges for. I would love the pantheon books if we could get them, maybe we even learn a bit more about Ranald's serpentine alter ego.
They are listed in the Library catalogue, so I'm guessing they are available, even if just to a limited extent.
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Alas, not available from the Empire, but we could get the +5 Dwarf with a Barak Varr purchase.
Alas, those are Collegiate books, not Barak Varr books, so not available to be combined with books on the polity of Nehekhara (which is a Barak Varr-eligible topic).
(We've asked a lot of questions about library topics over the last year and change, so a lot of stuff is available in old QM posts. That said, I agree with Parabola that we have not gotten a specific answer as to how deep the Druchii topic goes in Imperial books. I think it's likely available up to Esoteric, but it hasn't been ruled on.)
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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Boney confirmation on individual library topics that we don't possess:
(That I could find. Please inform me if you have specific quotes on certain other topics)
Geography
Araby - Dwarven and Empire
Nehakhara - Dwarven
Lustria - Neither Dwarven or Empire or Eonir (maybe the Asur have some?)
Southlands - Neither Dwarven or Empire or Eonir
Social Sciences
Tylos - Dwarven (Empire has only Tilean derived-or-translated books)
Strygos - Dwarven and Empire
Nehekhara -Dwarven and Empire
Araby - Dwarven and Empire
Druchii of Naggaroth - Empire (from Marienburg, for the more advanced books; meanwhile, Dwarves have nothing on their society proper besides records on how they met them as pirates)
Beastmen -Eonir (possibly the only other group apart from themselves that they have anything on)
Lizardmen - Neither Dwarven or Empire or Eonir (Asur might have some)
Magic
Beastman Wild Magic -Eonir (allowed despite being magical due to the basis of Laurelorn's alliance with Middenland being fighting Beastmen)
Forest Spirits -Eonir (confirmed that they see them as mundane and not a magical topic), Dwarven (presumably via Karak Norn)
Necromancy - Dwarven (presumably via the Cult of either Thungni or Gazul)
Hedge Magic - It's quite likely there aren't enough books on it for them to count as library-point-worthy, but if they did exist, we'd probably have to cozy up to one or several or all of the Wissenland Hedgewise, Templars, Longshanks and the Witch Hunter wing of the Knights of the White Wolf; or else find some other way to shake them down for reading material.
Divinity
The Nehekharan Pantheon - Dwarven and Empire (via Colleges)
Nehekharan War-Statuary - Dwarven and Empire (via Colleges)
The Mortuary Cult - Empire (via Colleges)
Nehekharan Incantations - Empire (via Colleges)
Individual Nehekharan deities - Araby and Nehekhara only
Elven Gods - Dwarven (not available for purchase, but the Karaz Ankor as a whole probably has them somewhere),Eonir (some gods might not have a unique enough insight into them to count as separate from Asur books),
--Khaine - Empire (via Witch Hunter groups, including probably the Cult of Sigmar)
Dwarven Gods - Asur (unknown availability but almost certainly not public)
Sigmar - Both Empire and Dwarven (only Old World deity the dwarves have anything on)
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Note: A library bonus represents a given source's perspective on the subject. As such, given that they've just barely come out of isolation, the Eonir have very little regarding other polities or Geography outside the Old World. They would have stuff on Beastmen because they fight them all the time, and maaaybe stuff on Greenskins due to Forest Goblins or possibly Daemons due to occasional incursions, but nothing at all on the Empire, for instance.
Edit: We have successfully acquired the Library of Mournings. Rejoice, everyone.
(That I could find. Please inform me if you have specific quotes on certain other topics)
Geography
Araby - Dwarven and Empire
Nehakhara - Dwarven
Lustria - Neither Dwarven or Empire or Eonir (maybe the Asur have some?)
Southlands - Neither Dwarven or Empire or Eonir
Social Sciences
Tylos - Dwarven (Empire has only Tilean derived-or-translated books)
Strygos - Dwarven and Empire
Nehekhara -
Araby - Dwarven and Empire
Druchii of Naggaroth - Empire (from Marienburg, for the more advanced books; meanwhile, Dwarves have nothing on their society proper besides records on how they met them as pirates)
Beastmen -
Lizardmen - Neither Dwarven or Empire or Eonir (Asur might have some)
Magic
Beastman Wild Magic -
Forest Spirits -
Necromancy - Dwarven (presumably via the Cult of either Thungni or Gazul)
Hedge Magic - It's quite likely there aren't enough books on it for them to count as library-point-worthy, but if they did exist, we'd probably have to cozy up to one or several or all of the Wissenland Hedgewise, Templars, Longshanks and the Witch Hunter wing of the Knights of the White Wolf; or else find some other way to shake them down for reading material.
Divinity
The Nehekharan Pantheon - Dwarven and Empire (via Colleges)
Nehekharan War-Statuary - Dwarven and Empire (via Colleges)
The Mortuary Cult - Empire (via Colleges)
Nehekharan Incantations - Empire (via Colleges)
Individual Nehekharan deities - Araby and Nehekhara only
Elven Gods - Dwarven (not available for purchase, but the Karaz Ankor as a whole probably has them somewhere),
--Khaine - Empire (via Witch Hunter groups, including probably the Cult of Sigmar)
Dwarven Gods - Asur (unknown availability but almost certainly not public)
Sigmar - Both Empire and Dwarven (only Old World deity the dwarves have anything on)
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Note: A library bonus represents a given source's perspective on the subject. As such, given that they've just barely come out of isolation, the Eonir have very little regarding other polities or Geography outside the Old World. They would have stuff on Beastmen because they fight them all the time, and maaaybe stuff on Greenskins due to Forest Goblins or possibly Daemons due to occasional incursions, but nothing at all on the Empire, for instance.
Edit: We have successfully acquired the Library of Mournings. Rejoice, everyone.
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I humbly retract my suggestion.
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Do we know if the Eonir have books on the Druuchi?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Given their extreme isolation, I'd expect not?
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I'd think they'd have some, but I'd expect no more than, like, the Empire does. So some but not very many.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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I believe Boney has it that the colonies were kept out of the Sundering entirely?
And then post-Sundering the Druchii first surfaced when they attacked Ulthuan during the War of Vengeance, which was immediately before the colonists isolated to Laurelorn.
The Eonir don't even have actual-topic books on the Empire, and they have definitely had more exposure to them than the Druchii.
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The Dwarves (most likely) have books on the Elven pantheon as a whole, but they're not publicly accessible and we'd need to make a deal with the right Karak's archives to get them. IIRC the Colleges also have Imperial books for the Elven pantheon, but I can't find the citation for it. Imperial Khaine books also exist, but we need to get them from non-College sources.
On Imperial Khaine books:
Yeah, only Beastmen and Eonir. They don't have books on anyone else due to isolation.
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Probably worth including a note that the Eonir have nothing except for Beastmen?