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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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picklepikkl said:
For Boney (no rush hence no @): I am curious about to what degree can we acquire Imperial/Dwarf books on the following topics. I have spent some time searching through your old posts and could not find these previously asked; apologies if I missed something.
  • Civilized Realms topic on Tilea
  • Civilized Realms topic on Estalia
  • Geography topic on Lustria
  • Geography topic on the Southlands
  • Either Civilized Realms or Enemies of Man topic on Lizardmen (if Imperial books on this are available, would they have to be acquired through the Colleges rather than Barak Varr?)
I ask because I'm kicking around purchase round ideas and @DragonParadox's idea about getting books to support the work on the Asur Explorer's rubbings stuck in my head as a possible good use of our library budget, and/or books on Tilea and Estalia to support eventual mapping actions and visiting the Los Cabos Nexus.
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Both available for Tilea and Estalia, neither available for the others.

Retrueno said:
@Boney would it be possible to try to acquire as many books written in Queekish as possible from the Old World?

The goal would be to acquire them because we have cracked Queekish so they would be useful to us while they're useless to the ones who currently have them.

We could use Mathilde's 'eccentricity' (like employing giant telepathic spiders as librarians) as an excuse for why we are acquiring them.
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Who is it you're imagining as sitting on a stockpile of Queekish writings, and how did they acquire them?
 
NexusEye said:
Something I just thought of, I wonder how much of the wall expansion is for military reasons? Tor Lithanel is already considered overpopulated by their standards and that's presumably having a negative effect of their birthrate since potential parents might not be able to afford the living space needed for a child. But war with Nordland and possibly the Empire as a whole is still a possibility and while the Eonir are better warriors the humans have the advantage of vastly superior numbers. By expanding the walls they may be hoping to create a baby boom and thus have a larger population to recruit soldiers from, mitigating that disadvantage.
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I'm with fictionfan on this. Having more actual city-space is a wider political shake-up overall than just wanting more available bodies, even if it could serve that purpose on the side.

We've seen the dissatisfaction of the Cityborn within Tor Lithanel, how they can feel trapped in terms of having no real future or large ambitions, relying on the existing power the Great Houses have (in part because they own high amounts of land). Expanding the walls could upturn many of those worries and the existing balance of power, in theory. It could provide the ordinary people with a greater sense of ease and shatter that previously-described-as-impenetrable ceiling. And if the Queen feels that the isolationist Major Houses are monopolizing too much power (or perhaps, monopolizing too much power that they're not using in a way that is productive to Laurelorn as a whole), that would also serve her own political purposes.

The real question, I think, is how exactly they're going to parcel out the land, or on what basis. If I were the Queen I'd be inclined to give out good amounts of it to public non-Major-House usage, but that's just from a surface-level read on the city and its problems. I'm sure there's something we're missing due to being relative newcomers here.
 
Mopman43 said:
I think 'Get me all the Skaven books you can find' is possibly one of the only ways the Ranald book-getting option could be both useful and palatable.
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Honestly the thought of Ranaldian Madlads doing stuff like that or looting the SIlver Pinnacle is an amazing mental image and makes me tempted to set it up just on the thought stuff like that could happen in the background. But I feel like the yields would be tiny.
 
As far as I'm concerned, the more people have tributaries the better. If it was the only way to proliferate them, I'd give the designs away for free to Bretonnia even if I had direct word of Boney that we'd have a bunch of angry French stereotypes invading the Empire a year from now.

It's not like tributaries would make Bretonnia meaningfully better at invading the Empire, and the reduced ambient magic would help everyone because of reduced gribblies.

Obviously that starts to break down when it comes to more advanced Waystones and Nexii, where they can directly and meaningfully supplement the magical capabilities of a given faction, but by the same token this kind of international cooperation is a rare opportunity to get better ties with many disparate factions and reduce the odds of such a conflict in the first place.

And as things stand, giving them up for free isn't the best way to proliferate tributaries - I think that they likely do have relevant insights to share with us. If nothing else, it's quite likely that one of the only alternate hubs to Marienburg passes straight through their territory, which is decently likely to be relevant.
 
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Godwinson said:
Considering that most of a Skaven's enemies are other Skaven, I would say this is how we got most of our Queekish writings in the first place!
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No, we killed the people in possession of the writings, not the enemies of the people in possession of the writings.
There is a very important key difference there where we cut (often literally) the middle man out of the picture.
 
It's not a mystery what the Brettonians do when they have breathing room at home. They pick fights abroad be that by errantry wars, Paravon wars, or elsewhere. None of its particularly helpful for us at the moment. If anything it's potentially problematic if a bunch of Knight Errants (famously hot headed no less) roll into the Wastelands or the Border Princes right now.
 
Karugus said:
It's not a mystery what the Brettonians do when they have breathing room at home. They pick fights abroad be that by errantry wars, Paravon wars, or elsewhere. None of its particularly helpful for us at the moment. If anything it's potentially problematic if a bunch of Knight Errants (famously hot headed no less) roll into the Wastelands or the Border Princes right now.
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The last Errantry War (King Charlen's Errantry War to Rid the World of Greenskins) ended rather poorly (the knights either dead or converted into Blood Dragons), but it has been about a generation since then.
 
Zaratustra said:
Aren't you contradicting yourself ? Reduced gribblies means Manpowers that was used to take care of gribblies is now free to do anything else, like invading other places.
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In theory, but frankly I'd much rather Bretonnia have the freed up manpower if it means chaos, orcs, or chaos orcs can't get as much of a foothold. (Or, y'know... Athel Loren.)
 
Boney said:
Both available for Tilea and Estalia, neither available for the others.
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Since we're on the general topic... Are there Imperial and/or Dwarven books on Araby (the kingdom)? And, because I'm not too clear on it, are Araby and Nehekhara just part of the general (Geography) Old World topic?
 
constering that we will be able to set the scribes on the stuff from Nuln next turn.

I want to argue that we can now move onto the Elf Library.

yes, its not 'efficient', but its stuff we can only get from there.
 
Bretonnia is the land of "every single village has a local badass gribbly fighter" if anywhere is a place I'm not terribly concerned about reducing the number of gribblies, it's there. If we're talking about waystones themselves and places like Mousillon this is an entirely different story, those are major gaps where major footholds can take root, but yeah for tributaries I personally don't particularly mind the consequences of leaving them out at all.
 
I was trying to think of a way to view the reaction between AV and a powerstone, and I may have a solution.
Boney said:
In an instant the Vitae detonates, and you fruitlessly try to blink away from your Magesight the bright afterimages of exploding energy. ...

You gather a slightly larger sample of Vitae and repeat the experiment, this time with a slab of stone between you and the detonation to shield your Magesight
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We previously used a slab of stone to shield our Magesight, because as we all know, stone is an excellent insulator of magic. I was trying to think of what we could use that would insulate some of the magic, and act as magic sunglasses/welding goggles. Then I remembered the Flint Glass that is being produced in our fief:
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"It's the flint, m'lady," Rolf says. "Chalk's full of it."

You consider this. "I'd thought we were rather beyond using flint," you say slowly.

"They use it to make some kind of glass."

You stare at him. "Glass?"

"The see-through stuff that they have on the temples in Tarshof," he explains helpfully.
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Well according to wikipedia, Flint Glass contained up to 60% lead oxide. And according to the Warhammer wiki, WHFRPG 2e says that lead is often used as a magical insulator. So my hope is that we could use Flint Glass as magic sunglasses.

@Boney could we purchase a bunch of different kinds of glass (including flint glass) and do an experiment to see if any of them act as semi-opaque to Magesight and would be suitable for viewing the AV reaction with a powerstone? I know we don't have any reason to know the chemical composition of Flint Glass in character, so I understand if you don't want us to cheat the tech tree here, but I am hoping it would at least be an interesting experiment.
 
Boney said:
No, they aren't part of the Old World. The Old World ends somewhere in the Badlands, though precisely where is a bit fuzzy.
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Would it be correct to presume the Badlands, Araby and Nehekhara are their own separate geography topics? And if so, are there any that wouldn't be available from either the Empire or the Dwarfs?

Jyn Ryvia said:
constering that we will be able to set the scribes on the stuff from Nuln next turn.

I want to argue that we can now move onto the Elf Library.

yes, its not 'efficient', but its stuff we can only get from there.
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I'd prefer Barak Varr backfill, but there's definitely something to be said about how IIRC the Eonir are allowing us to copy stuff like their books on Beastman Wild Magic because fighting against Beastmen was the basis of their alliance with the Empire.
 
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So we are, in a couple of years, have access to a 9rb of sorcery for Ulgu. So obviously, we gotta make a battle altar. But I want to get runic help with it, and do magic plus runes part 2, where the umgi are more faithful than elgi.

One idea to help this along would be the seviriscope, something we should make anyway IMO.
 
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