Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Blackout said:
Also underestimating that this particular Priest happened to understand Druhir. But fair enough, it's a possibly-divinely-inspired coincidence, I was just wondering about how that was physically possible.
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Out of all occupations, I believe the ability to speak the languages at various ports beyond those of your home country is likely one that particularly experienced sailors would possess, even if it is only the barest of minimums.

Plus the words 'Ostland' and 'Nordland' are pretty unique, even if it is conveyed with extreme disgust/distaste at having such ugly words pass through lips meant and used to mainly elven dialects. That, plus the avarice in their tones, was something. Enough of something to seize upon, I'd say.
 
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Something like...

1: [Unintelligible but bored]
2: [Unintelligible but eager, hand motions of grasping]
1: [Unintelligible but with agreement and nodding, unique word Ostland, unique word Nordland]
2: [Unintelligible but arrogant, smirking, waving sword around, stabbing motions, unique word Nordland with counting on fingers to indicate multiple occasions?]
1: [Unintelligible, sneering at word Ostland, Nordland, as if speaking word itself is disgusting, shrug, eager and cruel laughter]
2: [Unintelligible, picking up pleading sailor, gesturing at dying man with laughter from both, word Ostland again mentioned before disemboweling]
1: [Unintelligible, shrug, gesture at largely dead crew, index finger and thumb close together, Unintelligible, then slightly widened, snort, another shrug, word Ostland]

That sort of thing, you know?
 
iggyfan said:
"You explicitly refused anti-ark grade walls on the grounds it would have costed an order of magnitude more than your entire treasury and it would take two centuries too long to build."
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imagine if we did decide to buy those kinds of walls, the arks came, killed everyone, but then when seeing the dwarves and learning about the deal, decide to occupy the port and tell the dwarves to finish the wall as they made a deal and they would use them well? wonder what would break first for the dwarves their word, their honor? :V
 
[CANON] Excerpt from a Lecture by Magister Otto Hertmann of the Gold Order Regarding Esoteric Bronze Alloys - iggyfan
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    • Excerpt from a Lecture by Magister Otto Hertmann of the Gold Order Regarding Esoteric Bronze Alloys

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    Barrow bronze is reasonably common by the standards of this lecture, being the metal that the blades of many wights are made of. Of course, obtaining it oftentimes necessitates fighting those wights and so early in the history of the Gold Order barrow bronze was somewhat rare. This changed after the Necrarch War and the Cleansing of Sylvania, after which the College almost had more barrow bronze than it knew what to do with.

    Legends claim that the creation process of barrow bronze involved the strange magic of the pre-Imperial tribes that once inhabited the lands that are now the Empire, however the exact forging process remains a mystery. It is known to our Order that barrow bronze is significantly more receptive to enchantments than ordinary bronze, particularly those that derive from Shyish, the purple wind. Some Magisters have gone so far as to claim that barrow bronze will outright reject enchantments from other winds if it has not already received one from Shyish, though this is hotly contested by other Magisters of the Order.

    The mundane properties of barrow bronze are no less interesting. It is able to maintain an edge for far longer than ordinary bronze, as numerous veterans of the Cleansing of Sylvania can attest. It seems to be partially immune to patination, with most recovered barrow blades not having a scrap of green on them, while those that do possess any green patina having only minor amounts of corrosion. Instead, patination seems to stop at a black or dark brown color.

    Unfortunately for our College barrow bronze loses its esoteric qualities upon being removed from the barrow its late wielder was buried in, unless wielded by said wielder or handled with extreme care. As such research into the metal has been met with several setbacks.
    Forged millennia ago by the Skytitans during and likely before the Ogre's Big Migration the only known source of skytitan bronze is from the ruins of the skycastles of that ancient race in the Ancient Giant Lands. The creation prossess of skytitan bronze remains a mystery despite the Gold College's best efforts. When gazed upon with mage sight skytitan bronze shows a considerable amount of Azyr mixed with the expected Chamon, though it remains debated whether this is a result of the forging process or simply a natural result of sitting high upon a mountain for millennia.

    Skytitan bronze appears to be largely immune to patination, with the ironblaster examined by the College still retaining the appearance of bronze cast only a few years ago. Based upon interviews with members of the Ostland School of Gunnery and Engineering, skytitan bronze is believed to have extremely high tensile and yield strength. This is rather unsurprising as many ironblasters have been shown to be able to withstand the incredibly poor maintenance and gunnery skill of their ogre owners. In addition, it is extremely resistant to weathering, with many of the decorations on the ironblaster still clearly discernible despite it having spent nearly five millennia exposed to freeze-thaw cycles and the wind.
    Archbronze is rare to find even by the standards of the metals this lecture is about. Perhaps half a dozen items of archbronze have been obtained by the Colleges, ranging from cauldrons to horse bits and even a sword. All of these items share a common artistic design indicating a shared point of origin. Exactly where this point was had been a question that the Order could not answer, and it was widely believed that it would remain unanswered for the indefinite future. However, the recent campaign in Albion, and the sword that Reinhardt Hertwig bore when he returned have provided an answer. The decorations on the archbronze blade in the possession of the Colleges and those on the so-called Tooth of Tlang are almost identical, indicating that the Albish know or knew the secret to its creation. However, attempts to investigate further have been frustrated by the reinvigorated mists that the isle has seemed to vanish into.

    Items forged from archbronze are actually composed of many subtly different alloys. For example, the edge of the blade in the possession of the College is crafted from an alloy that maximizes sharpness and minimizes wear, the main body of it is from an alloy that appears to have been designed to minimize bending, while the tang is of an alloy with immense yield strength and the fittings of an alloy that takes on an especially fine polish. In addition, archbronze appears to be entirely immune to corrosion and as strong as dwarf steel for reasons that the Gold Order has yet to determine.
    Perhaps the rarest of metals included in this lecture, Cathayan celestial dragon-bronze remains largely an enigma to the Imperial Colleges of Magic. The entirety of our knowledge of celestial dragon-bronze is composed of rumors and traveler's accounts from the Far East, many of which are contradictory. It is claimed that before the reign of Empress Huang and her creation of celestial dragon-steel celestial dragon-bronze was the most prized metal within Grand Cathay. It is said that only a dragon possesses the skill to create celestial dragon-bronze. In the current era celestial dragon-bronze is supposedly largely the domain of the non-reigning dragon dynasties, the Yuan, Han, Shu, and Wei, as the Wu maintain a strict control over access to celestial dragon-steel.

    Regarding the properties of celestial dragon-bronze little can be said for certain as no magister of the Colleges of Magic is known to have traveled to Grand Cathay and no item made of celestial dragon-bronze is known to have made it to the Empire. It is said that no ordinary fire can melt celestial dragon-bronze, and many Cathayan folk tales claim that the substance is the bane of unfriendly spirits, which implies that the metal contains enough magic to harm ethereal beings. Blades made from celestial dragon-bronze are said to retain their edges for millennia without needing sharpening and many are said to possess a dark rhomboid pattern on their surface, though accounts differ on whether these serve any purpose or are merely decorative. Celestial dragon-bronze is also said to be wholly immune to corrosion, similar to many other alloys in this lecture.
    Shout out to @Mayto and @soulcake for providing inspiration for two of these metals. If either of you (or anyone else) want to use/adapt the one original metal for your quests feel free to do so.
     
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    • torroar said:
    Something like...

    1: [Unintelligible but bored]
    2: [Unintelligible but eager, hand motions of grasping]
    1: [Unintelligible but with agreement and nodding, unique word Ostland, unique word Nordland]
    2: [Unintelligible but arrogant, smirking, waving sword around, stabbing motions, unique word Nordland with counting on fingers to indicate multiple occasions?]
    1: [Unintelligible, sneering at word Ostland, Nordland, as if speaking word itself is disgusting, shrug, eager and cruel laughter]
    2: [Unintelligible, picking up pleading sailor, gesturing at dying man with laughter from both, word Ostland again mentioned before disemboweling]
    1: [Unintelligible, shrug, gesture at largely dead crew, index finger and thumb close together, Unintelligible, then slightly widened, snort, another shrug, word Ostland]

    That sort of thing, you know?
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    Add in some Druchii crossbow bolts in him, even Caeldor II could put 2 and 2 together.
     
    torroar said:
    It's more that Malekith cares a lot more about Ulthuan than the Empire, and again, not like Black Arks haven't been lost before.
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    torroar said:
    From the greater Druchii perspective, it's an unexpected but not overwhelming or utterly truly devastating surprise kick from a child at your shin.
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    Just a question.
    Arent Black Arks a highly limited resource? Few in numbers and all that?
    I mean, the originals Black Arks are the equivalent of an Elven City put to the sea. I would be very surprised if any new one is "lesser" than an entire city.
    *sure they migh not compare to the originals, because they are no longer a "golden age city" and would "merely" be a "Druchii city"

    If they are a limited resource/numbers, i would figure that any being destroyed would be more than just an "annoyance", not enough to mobilize the druchii but more than enough to cause a pretty big round of betrayals and backstabbing, as everyone mock everyone remotedly related to those who ruled/captained the Arks.
     
    I have no doubt there prob be a lot more betrayal and backstabbing, but ultimately, they already sorta have a permanent base established and aren't too worried about it.

    I also think they wouldn't really care until they have only a few left in their arsenal.
     
    alvus said:
    Just a question.
    Arent Black Arks a highly limited resource? Few in numbers and all that?
    I mean, the originals Black Arks are the equivalent of an Elven City put to the sea. I would be very surprised if any new one is "lesser" than an entire city.
    *sure they migh not compare to the originals, because they are no longer a "golden age city" and would "merely" be a "Druchii city"

    If they are a limited resource/numbers, i would figure that any being destroyed would be more than just an "annoyance", not enough to mobilize the druchii but more than enough to cause a pretty big round of betrayals and backstabbing, as everyone mock everyone remotedly related to those who ruled/captained the Arks.
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    They are a highly limited resource, yes!

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    Put it to ya'll this way.

    The amount of resources and effort it takes to try and forge a new one - and that would be wasted if it failed - are quite significant. This cannot be understated. But ASIDE from that?

    Morathi doesn't want to do it. Not because it is, in fact, impossible, no. But she really, really doesn't want to try and raise new ones, for reasons. Consider this, yeah?

    Additionally, no newly raised Ark will ever be so powerful as those literally forged out of the chunks of Ulthuan during the proper Sundering.
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    However, the reason I make the comparison I did is because Malekith is operating at Nation vs. Nation / Race vs. Race levels of strategic thinking. As in all of Naggaroth vs. all of Ulthuan. He would not, in turn, consider Ostland to be nearly at the same level, because it just isn't. It isn't at the same level as a fully unified and marshalled Empire either.

    I'm not saying that the loss of ANY Ark would not create a big round of arguments, backstabbings, frontstabbings, gossip with a dash of poison, and so on from happening. I'm just saying that while they would and are going to be a NOTICEABLE loss, it is not yet enough to engender Malekith's active personal hatreds. That is reserved pretty much solely for the Asur. It will greatly annoy and frustrate him, but the higher levels of negative emotions will be reserved more for the elves who 'allowed' such a thing to take place. Such as Sadrina, of the Asur, or the Highweavers of the Eonir, or Kerillian, of the Asrai.

    Arks are replaceable, it's just immensely hard and dangerous work, but it is possible. And the angrier Druchii are made, the more willing they are to do things that are incredibly dangerous to themselves and the world around them. Like that time they tried to undo the Vortex which...yeah.

    So yes, titanic levels of annoyance, coupled with increased Druchii attention being paid to the Empire. That is quite dangerous enough, to be frank.
     
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    We may want to invest most of any resources we get out of this fight back into our fleet and the harbors that support it. To hopefully mitigate the increased attention from the Druchi.
     
    As said earlier, the elves that took part in battle more likely to receive credit for loss since being beaten by them is less horrible.
     
    torroar said:
    • Other Major Religious Leaders Of Ostland
      • Ostland Hierarch of Taal Helmut - Alive
      • Ostland Hierarch of Rhya Raina - Alive
      • High Priestess of Myrmidia Roswitha, High Priest of the Ostland Unit - Alive
      • Mother Rosalinde, High Priestess of Wulfenburg's Temple of Shallya - Alive
      • High Priest of Manann [POSITION EMPTY] - N/A
      • High Priestess of Esmeralda Lea Hersch - Alive
      • High Priest of Manann Amos - Slain in Witch Hunter Purge of Ostland Branch of Cult of Manann
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    As you can see, you killed the last one.

    As for the guy, he is not a High Priest, he is a sailing priest, meaning you're going to have to offer up a good reason for him to not be able to get back out to a life at sea as he would prefer.
     
    Put another way, Malekith is Naggaroth Quest's PC, not Caledor's Bane Quest. The loss of these Arks is to him what it would be to Big Magnus if say, one or two of Ostland's armies were wiped out: A blow to national prestige, potentially a big problem if there's a threat coming from that direction which is big enough to threaten the Empire as a whole which those armies could have blocked, but not the disaster that losing those armies/Blacks Arks would be us for us/Caledor's Bane. What's an enormous disaster for the secondary string national leaders is "just" a stinging defeat for the big kahuna.

    Or at least that's what I'm getting from torroar.
     
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    Ditto for other major leaders among the Druchii.

    Look at the threads response to Middenland losing two armies to the Middle Mountains. There was some concern, sure, but there was a bunch of visceral satisfaction and schadenfreude as well. Folks were just happy to see a rival knocked down a peg, even though we could really use those armies now.
     
    There's were more concern than satisfaction trough, because while we sure that yes, guntar is a morron his army vanishing overnight on an are we have to patrol is an issue.
     
    the satisfaction and schadenfreude were and still are completely justified and correct , because you can be damn sure that dog fu@ker would have had the same if not worse reaction if that had happened to us , cause remember Middenland's political position and agenda in the north is wanting to see the trident and its member states crash and burn back to their original sorry states so that Guntar can regain the power and influence Middenland has nearly always had in north
     
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    Yep that too, it's kinda a stupid plan. Thus is why our counter plan is chanel Freddy's inner Dawi and go "skill issue. if you half assed want to ne better than me, do better than me."
     
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