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Sweet. I've read Giantslayer so I was always ready for the follow up. And Black Arks are vanishingly rare to read about. Only ever read part of it because I wanted to see Thanquol realizing G&F didn't even know who he was.
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Wow, black dragon egg stuff is crazy.
In my own opinion, we can either give it to the high elves for major points, or give it to the Twilight Sisters since they lost their dragon mount/companion when fighting their corrupted king.
@torroar would the latter idea be possible? Or would that be viewed too much as an insult maybe implying to help 'replace' one of their greatest friends and all after only 'a few years' of mourning.
In my own opinion, we can either give it to the high elves for major points, or give it to the Twilight Sisters since they lost their dragon mount/companion when fighting their corrupted king.
@torroar would the latter idea be possible? Or would that be viewed too much as an insult maybe implying to help 'replace' one of their greatest friends and all after only 'a few years' of mourning.
I mean. Technically, yes, it could be possible to possibly think of making the offer.
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Getting elf gold to pay dwarf masons to restore city sounds good to me.
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The only way they can live in harmony.
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Im partial to give it to the Eonir, its the best strategic choice even if is not the most mercenary one.
The eonir lack any true form of high grade magic weapon aince their ent is dead, laureon needs a guardian. Sure we can also push them to adopt technology (gun wielding elves would be intresthing) and sensible defensive city planing, but the stronger the Eonir are the more beneficial is to teident and the empire, wich also means the less likely future generations are to fuck up our pact.
The eonir lack any true form of high grade magic weapon aince their ent is dead, laureon needs a guardian. Sure we can also push them to adopt technology (gun wielding elves would be intresthing) and sensible defensive city planing, but the stronger the Eonir are the more beneficial is to teident and the empire, wich also means the less likely future generations are to fuck up our pact.
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No if we have more than one egg that's even more diplomatic big sticks. And we can spread them around to multiple elves to get fat stacks out of them.
I don't want a dragon, I do want the pile of gold it sleeps on so I can pay people to rebuild our fucked up port.
The dwarven rulers probably will pay those masons out of their own pockets. Remember, as Torroar said: the Dwarves are very upset right now that most of the holds cannot fullfil their oaths of aid due to them being under assault right now.
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Maybe not their own pocket, but possibly at a discount. We'll see, hopefully.
Well i do want a dragon and it would be up to a vote for it not a sinlge person
And if there is more then one egg then there is no reason why we shouldn't go for it
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It would honestly be a real waste to keep so much of the possible Druchii loot for ourselves in the event we don't die. Like, I know some people were talking about giving Caledor's Bane to one of Fred's children? Doing that would never be as useful as giving it away to either the Asur, or my personal preference since it's not tainted, the Gold College to advance humanity and earn their favor, especially because none of his children even use lances, and their weapons are quality weapons anyways. The eggs? Fred has Oskana, and we could get soooooo much more out of the Asur and Eonir with the eggs that the benefits would easily outweigh some big dumb lizard.
One BIG issue no pro-dragon folks have considered too: Oskana is prohibitively expensive af to feed, and she's just a griffin. Can you imagine how painfully expensive raising and feeding a dragon would be? Alongside our beloved griffin too? We are absolutely not equipped to deal with that in the slightest.
One BIG issue no pro-dragon folks have considered too: Oskana is prohibitively expensive af to feed, and she's just a griffin. Can you imagine how painfully expensive raising and feeding a dragon would be? Alongside our beloved griffin too? We are absolutely not equipped to deal with that in the slightest.
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I might be wrong, but I think you might be underestimating just how much wealth Dwarven rulers actually have, as the degree of shame and anger they must be feeling right now, due to them not being able to fullfil their Oaths of alliance.
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Ok so maybe not dumb, but at the end of the day, one egg would only ever equal one dragon, while trading that egg for gold, magic, favors, etc. opens us up to a host of benefits while a dragon will only ever be a large, deadly weapon, and one far harder to maintain and especially replace than the thousands of cannons we could buy with the price of feeding it
yeah the fact that all these dwarven fortification failed(by dwarf standards) to protect a dwarf freind will really rub them raw we may even see some of the dwarf masons go slayer because they believed they made umgi work. because there is no way a pansey edgey elf could break proper dwarf carved and runed walls
On the other hand, they probably are aware of just how dangerous two black arks can be, so they will probably accept there was only so much their 'hasty' work do could against being rammed by those black arks. And to be fair, the charge of those floating cities was stopped by the walls in the end.
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Indeed, so if it does come to that we shall see.
And no if there's more than one egg all the reasons why we shouldn't be doing it are still entirely valid, while the benefits of giving it away are exacerbated. Mind you that is wishful thinking seeing as this guy could afford fancy kit to have the eggs not turn into omelets, I doubt the other one did. If they did my guess is they are now scrambled by impact.
Presuming that they didn't...you know...use em.
I Was under the impression seeing the Lady was the mother of the other guy that did retreat back to manarith's ark she would have been his wife so she would have the gear for it
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I have no idea where you extrapolated that from at all.
Even if she was his spouse Druchii are covetous dick heads, especially to family.
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Giving away our precious dragon child for dosh/political points? Shame on all of you! 
. And Freddy is the best possible father figure/role model for the little one.
I asked before but don't think I got an answer. Do dragons imprint?
If so and this one hatches at an unexpected time, go with whoever it sees as 'mama'.
. And Freddy is the best possible father figure/role model for the little one.I asked before but don't think I got an answer. Do dragons imprint?
If so and this one hatches at an unexpected time, go with whoever it sees as 'mama'.
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Discount seems very likely, maybe so discounted it is practically free, but need something to write down in their ledgers in exchange after all.
Either way, no doubt we can count on dwarf expertise to help restore the damage within a reasonable timeframe and tougher than before.
I wonder if we can extend contract with Grey Wizards to start putting protections in city too, the docks, lighthouse/temple, and main palace.
Curious @torroar where is the foundation of the lighthouse/temple located in city? I assume within the outer wall where docks were, but curious if the black ark ramming attack damaged it or not.
We likely won't learn if it was or not until after event, I'm just curious location and hoping it was only damaged a little bit since it was only foundation area and not whole lighthouse.
It's behind the Final Wall, but not that far away. Besides which, it's not even halfway done, and the design is truly ambitious. It's basically the big Passion Project for its architect, yeah? When complete, it was intended to definitely be visible for miles in the sea around despite not even being within the proper docks area.