Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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EVA-Saiyajin said:
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I know this was probably meant as a rhetorical "lmao absolutely they'd hate it", but I legit think that Freddy, with his current clout and notoriously open minded approach to things, would be trusted with the responsibility of such a thing if worded the correct way.

The Asur and maybe the Eonir probably also would like said egg to raise it among other dragons and such, but Freddy and Magnus have both shown themselves to be even, fair handed, and open minded people who'd treat other beings with respect and care.

Edit: Although that might come with a caveat of "we're sending some people to make sure you don't fuck this up because you don't know what you're doing" or something similar
 
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Something that should also likely be made sure that everyone notes:

Frederick has no idea what one is supposed to do with the Black Dragon Eggs. Maranith didn't actually manage to do more than just grab the thing before it was taken from his hands. And you'd better believe Sadrina didn't say 'and also they sometimes eat the eggs' because despite being aware of it, she was more focused on communicating the general desecration and monstrosity of their creation and situation as a whole rather than this one particularly unwholesome facet. Frederick is aware of the major cultural notes between the Caledorian Dragons and their relationship with the Elves, why they take it so seriously, etc. as a result of their language/cultural lessons because the two are incredibly intertwined. He knows plenty about that, so in-character he's not about to say he should eat it either. The corpse of the dragon is one thing, he is vaguely aware of certain dwarf brews and what not that involved ingredients of dragons, that they've been used as crafting material before for various things, and so on, but there's that and then there's the eggs themselves. He isn't quite sure what Maranith planned to do with it to 'unleash the true power of the Druchii' or whatever, but he knew it involved the egg.

But he is aware of how much the Asur love their Caledorian dragons and pity/hate the stolen and experimented upon Naggarothi dragons, yes.
 
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torroar said:
Something that should also likely be made sure that everyone notes:

Frederick has no idea what one is supposed to do with the Black Dragon Eggs. Maranith didn't actually manage to do more than just grab the thing before it was taken from his hands. And you'd better believe Sadrina didn't say 'and also they sometimes eat the eggs' because despite being aware of it, she was more focused on communicating the general desecration and monstrosity of their creation and situation as a whole rather than this one particularly unwholesome facet. Frederick is aware of the major cultural notes between the Caledorian Dragons and their relationship with the Elves, why they take it so seriously, etc. as a result of their language/cultural lessons because the two are incredibly intertwined. He knows plenty about that, so in-character he's not about to say he should eat it either. The corpse of the dragon is one thing, he is vaguely aware of certain dwarf brews and what not that involved ingredients of dragons, that they've been used as crafting material before for various things, and so on, but there's that and then there's the eggs themselves. He isn't quite sure what Maranith planned to do with it to 'unleash the true power of the Druchii' or whatever, but he knew it involved the egg.

But he is aware of how much the Asur love their Caledorian dragons and pity/hate the stolen and experimented upon Naggarothi dragons, yes.
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Counterpoint, not needing to ever have dieter IV on the Imperial throne as we will have already accomplished his one worthwhile deed before him:cool:
 
decisions decisions. eating it is straight out and would piss off the elves so badly that relations would probably never be repaired. Keeping it is looking more and more like a bad idea but I still like the idea of Ostland having it's own Dragon. Giving the Dragon to the Elves would probably be a very good move diplomatically but we are already in their good graces right now.
 
torroar said:
But he is aware of how much the Asur love their Caledorian dragons and pity/hate the stolen and experimented upon Naggarothi dragons, yes.
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So any chance you can tell us what the options we'll be offered are? I mean is it possible to purify it so it won't be an evil asshole Black Dragon. Are Black Dragons automatically evil?

If not what are the good and bad effects of eating said egg, for humans, human casters, elves, elf casters, etc if there is even a difference?
 
torroar said:
But he is aware of how much the Asur love their Caledorian dragons and pity/hate the stolen and experimented upon Naggarothi dragons, yes.
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Hmm. Now, here's an idea. We don't just send it to Caledor. We send it as a gift to Prince Khalanos. Who as a reminder, was Aurelion's hopefully former dick of a fiance, who we pissed off by undercutting his arrogant ass' attempts to control Aurelion. And socking him in the face.

OSTLAND TECHNIQUE: SUPREME TROLL-FLEX!
 
Wait hold on! @torroar from your statement a minute ago. Does Frederick have 1 egg or 2 now? The one he got from Maranith and the one that the Elf lady just pulled from the Dragon's bag? or is the one that she pulled hers?
 
Guys, torroar has not only told us that the Asur would effectively declare war on us if we ate the dragon egg, but that In Character Fredrick has no idea that eating a dragon egg for power ups is something you can do. I don't think we're going to be eating it.
 
Thors_Alumni said:
decisions decisions. eating it is straight out and would piss off the elves so badly that relations would probably never be repaired. Keeping it is looking more and more like a bad idea but I still like the idea of Ostland having it's own Dragon. Giving the Dragon to the Elves would probably be a very good move diplomatically but we are already in their good graces right now.
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Forget good graces we can put that one dick of a dragon prince deeper into our debt.
 
lancelot said:
So any chance you can tell us what the options we'll be offered are? I mean is it possible to purify it so it won't be an evil asshole Black Dragon. Are Black Dragons automatically evil?

If not what are the good and bad effects of eating said egg, for humans, human casters, elves, elf casters, etc if there is even a difference?
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It's definitely possibly to purify one, as seen by the Everqueen cleansing Gholnaros (relatively) recently. The most important side effect is that, as has been stated way too much now, eating the egg would butcher our rep with the High Elves to the point that we would, straight up, lose them as an ally. The thought also wouldn't cross Frederick's mind and would be wildly out of character. In terms of raising it, Black Dragons have been stated as notoriously difficult to raise because of their temperament, far worse than a Griffin, and 1. We have no idea what we're doing and 2. We have children in our castle who would be at risk because of point 1. In conclusion, we should probably let the dragon experts handle the dragons
 
Can a black dragon egg be purified? To a regular dragon egg the very first maybe but generations after generations of breeding you would think the black dragons are now a separate breed from the ulthuan dragons

Maybe a carefull nurture of it would give us a new battle companion like with oskana one that will go from family head to family head in inheritance
 
TheCynicalPogo said:
It's definitely possibly to purify one, as seen by the Everqueen cleansing Gholnaros (relatively) recently.
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This and that are completely separate things, a Black Dragon is designed to be how it is. A chaos Dragon just had Chaos Taint jammed into it until it's mind broke and body mutated. There is a difference.

So if the answer is NO a black Dragon can't be unfucked then they eat option is on the table.
 
lancelot said:
So any chance you can tell us what the options we'll be offered are? I mean is it possible to purify it so it won't be an evil asshole Black Dragon. Are Black Dragons automatically evil?

If not what are the good and bad effects of eating said egg, for humans, human casters, elves, elf casters, etc if there is even a difference?
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Perhaps we'll find out in the future, yeah?

For the record, I've been asked twice or three times now what happens to someone who eats the egg - whether elf or human, and I've explicitly and purposefully refused to say anything other than vaguely what TT grants mechanically while implicitly making eyes back at Lovely Laurelorn and its extrapolations of the relatively simply described other things.
 
lancelot said:
This and that are completely separate things, a Black Dragon is designed to be how it is. A chaos Dragon just had Chaos Taint jammed into it until it's mind broke and body mutated. There is a difference.

So if the answer is NO a black Dragon can't be unfucked then they eat option is on the table.
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First of all, how good of an idea do you really think it is to eat an egg filled with Dhar as a human, let alone a human who has already had issues with hidden Dhar corruption in the past.

Second of all how willing are you to permanently fuck relations with a premier world power who have a beach head in our backyard that we can't assault?
 
lancelot said:
So if the answer is NO a black Dragon can't be unfucked then they eat option is on the table.
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Dude. The Kingdom of Caledor would declare war against Ostland and raze it to the ground if Fred tries to eat the Dragon egg.

Seriously they love dragons as much as Wood Elves love trees- if not even more so.
 
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lancelot said:
This and that are completely separate things, a Black Dragon is designed to be how it is. A chaos Dragon just had Chaos Taint jammed into it until it's mind broke and body mutated. There is a difference.

So if the answer is NO a black Dragon can't be unfucked then they eat option is on the table.
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I mentioned Gholnaros because Torroar explicitly referenced him just a few pages ago when others were asking if Black Dragons can be cleansed. Also did you just not read the part about where eating it would massively fuck our relationship with the High Elves to the point of no return and would also be wildly, painfully out of character for Frederick to even consider? It is a super bad idea, and the world will benefit far more from the Asur having a new dragon than us having an angry black dragon, or whatever esoteric benefits eating it might provide
 
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