Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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torroar said:
But yeah, hopefully going forward, I won't have to try and explain everything in too much detail.
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I don't think there is any obligation there.

You are not required to reveal how your system works in the background, and noone has the right to ask it of you. If people can't deal with that, it sounds like a them problem.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
To this day he acts smart and people stare at him in surprise.
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To be honest, I love it whenever this happens! The example given here was the tax package during the Elector's meeting, but Lovely Laurelorn was also a good, if lower-key example of this. Even when he was going on a rampage through in Athel Loren, while looking like some sort of creature due being covered in blood and gore, as well as his clothes being shredded, he still did things like: saving allied soldiers getting caught out of position, immediately noting how hard to defend the clearing before the Oak of Ages ages was, and, finally, cottoning on to Drycha's gambit.

The fact that he often looks like a barbarian warrior-king from the outside, while hiding a razor-sharp mind on the inside, is one of the things I like about him as a character the most.
 
Lerac said:
To be honest, I love it whenever this happens! The example given here was the tax package during the Elector's meeting, but Lovely Laurelorn was also a good, if lower-key example of this. Even when he was going on a rampage through in Athel Loren, while looking like some sort of creature due being covered in blood and gore, as well as his clothes being shredded, he still did things like: saving allied soldiers getting caught out of position, immediately noting how hard to defend the clearing before the Oak of Ages ages was, and, finally, cottoning on to Drycha's gambit.

The fact that he often looks like a barbarian warrior-king from the outside, while hiding a razor-sharp mind on the inside, is one of the things I like about him as a character the most.
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My favorite bit was his speech to the Asrai to improve morale before fighting Orion.

Despite only being in Athel Loren for a subjective day, almost constantly fighting and in a rage he still picked up unique cultural quirks belonging to the myriad kingdoms of the realm. Accurate enough conclusions to use them as rallying cries for each representative group of soldiers without offending them.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
Yeah, it showed that she creates what looks like genuine threats and attempts against Khalida, but it's more of a vicious game played with nations as the pieces and prize. She makes and trains up minions capable of theoretically at least forcing Lahmia to act in defense of itself in what looks a great battle for the fate of the dead city-state, but it's just a cycle she continues because she can't stop.

The book's entire antagonist plot worthy of a legend? Just another metaphorical spitball of "maybe this idea will work"
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And some people wonder why Khalida is always going on about Killing Vampires and Neferata, she is just sick of all of her cousins shit and wants permanent justice.
 
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torroar said:
But yeah, hopefully going forward, I won't have to try and explain everything in too much detail.
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I like getting a peek behind the scenes, but it matters a lot how it's done.
torroar said:
Every organization involved got their own rolls, per turn/half-turn/more depending on the intensity of the actions.
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torroar said:
It's not super consistently consistent, but uh, its sort of how things have worked...ish...for a while. And it's still working, or rather my brain is, so it continues to work.
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Posts like these are good for the thread.

The frustrated ones from 7-8 pages ago? Understandable reaction, still informative, but I hope we don't see their like too often.
 
Ashmaker said:
I like getting a peek behind the scenes, but it matters a lot how it's done.


Posts like these are good for the thread.

The frustrated ones from 7-8 pages ago? Understandable reaction, still informative, but I hope we don't see their like too often.
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I hope we see people not shoving their foot in their mouth. I hope you genuinely don't see just how condescending you are being right now because the alternative is even worse.
 
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torroar said:
Perhaps. I've talked about the Kislev psuedo-quest framing for notes and progression stuff before. And I've also mentioned how enemies get intrigue rolls and stuff on their own too. So it's not like it's that much of a 'reveal' at this point.

But yeah, hopefully going forward, I won't have to try and explain everything in too much detail.
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Hopefully that will be the case and you don't have to explain everything.

But I do enjoy the peeks behind the curtain and always have. You put in a metric ton of work that's unobserved but really makes the quest interesting.
 
Alright, removing my foot from my mouth and writing what I meant to say the first time around: I hope that the thread interactions which have caused you frustration doesn't sour you from pulling back the curtain every now and then to let us see what's going on under the hood, torroar.
 
Or just a bunch of horrible sea monsters really.

Gotta remember that the collapse of the Polar Gates didn't just mutate things on land but also life in the ocean. Monsters that should have 6000 years to grow and multiply unimpeded.

Yet we don't hear much about sea monsters in Warhammer really.
 
fbiuzz said:
Or just a bunch of horrible sea monsters really.

Gotta remember that the collapse of the Polar Gates didn't just mutate things on land but also life in the ocean. Monsters that should have 6000 years to grow and multiply unimpeded.

Yet we don't hear much about sea monsters in Warhammer really.
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That's because most people live on land. But we do hear a lot about them. Especially in regards to Druuchi and Asur.
 
So I actually have a question about vampires, unrelated to the whole kids thing; does it have to be human blood that vampires drink, or can they live off of animal blood just fine, and it just doesn't taste as good? Would Taal or some of the other goods be cool with a vampire that hunted animals for the blood, and then gave the meat to villages? What about a vampire butcher?
 
coalface said:
Would Taal or some of the other goods be cool with a vampire that hunted animals for the blood, and then gave the meat to villages? What about a vampire butcher?
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Can't begin to imagine but usually? No.

So I actually have a question about vampires, unrelated to the whole kids thing; does it have to be human blood that vampires drink, or can they live off of animal blood just fine, and it just doesn't taste as good?
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I've read books where they've drunken from Beastmen and Dwarves.
 
coalface said:
So I actually have a question about vampires, unrelated to the whole kids thing; does it have to be human blood that vampires drink, or can they live off of animal blood just fine, and it just doesn't taste as good? Would Taal or some of the other goods be cool with a vampire that hunted animals for the blood, and then gave the meat to villages? What about a vampire butcher?
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I do not have the energy because I'm about to go to sleep, but I have spoken on this before in the thread. So instead I'll drabble through Night's Dark Masters for some quotes I can't be sure I'll find with the search function.

Blood Dragons:
Blood Dragons often seek out the blood of creatures that may be greater than men, in the hope of getting some element of what Abhorash gained from the Dragon. For some this involves eating nobles, or great heroes, or the ancient Elves. Others travel far to drink the blood of great creatures such as Griffons, Wyverns, or Giants. Meloch the Giant Killer is said to sate his thirst for a century—and grow ever stronger—with each Giant he kills.

Strigoi:
In the main, the Strigoi resort to feeding upon the dead instead of the living, a habit which hastens their descent into insanity and bestial appearance. The dead, unlike the living, attract no attention if disturbed, and their blood, if the corpse was killed within the year, can provide sustenance enough for survival. The taste is cold and bitter, however, so the Strigoi feed as little as possible and take no joy in it. Rats and other vermin add variety but only offer the choice between the bitter and the insipid. The luckiest ones have learned to suppress their feeding urge, by sleeping, mental exertion, or some darker power.

There is more to this, but both are things I've mentioned in thread somewhere, pretty sure at least. Can't speculate on Godly stuff right now, sorry. Too sleepy.
 
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Lerac said:
To be honest, I love it whenever this happens! The example given here was the tax package during the Elector's meeting, but Lovely Laurelorn was also a good, if lower-key example of this. Even when he was going on a rampage through in Athel Loren, while looking like some sort of creature due being covered in blood and gore, as well as his clothes being shredded, he still did things like: saving allied soldiers getting caught out of position, immediately noting how hard to defend the clearing before the Oak of Ages ages was, and, finally, cottoning on to Drycha's gambit.

The fact that he often looks like a barbarian warrior-king from the outside, while hiding a razor-sharp mind on the inside, is one of the things I like about him as a character the most.
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One of the things I've read relates to Conan the Barbarian, the ur-example of the modern interpretation of a Barbarian, and how people miss that Conan is a Barbarian because he shuns the trappings of civilization and strives to prove his strength in nature. He's not stupid or even unintelligent, he's perceptive and smart, defeating many of his foes not with raw strength, but quick-wits and strategy. And because he chooses to live a lifestyle outside the norm he's thought of as lesser.

I wouldn't actually know, I'm just going off of a half-remembered imgur or reddit post from years ago and have never read the comics or books themselves, but even the origin of the word Barbarian is just the word the Romans used for everyone who wasn't part of the most advanced and civilized civilization of the world, Rome. You could argue the real world Barbarians weren't stupid backwater brutes either, they just look that way because of the success of Rome.
 
Zedman7054 said:
I wouldn't actually know, I'm just going off of a half-remembered imgur or reddit post from years ago and have never read the comics or books themselves, but even the origin of the word Barbarian is just the word the Romans used for everyone who wasn't part of the most advanced and civilized civilization of the world, Rome. You could argue the real world Barbarians weren't stupid backwater brutes either, they just look that way because of the success of Rome.
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It's originally a Greek word for "foreigner who doesn't come from a Greek-speaking people," actually.
 
Simon_Jester said:
It's originally a Greek word for "foreigner who doesn't come from a Greek-speaking people," actually.
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Actually? No.
Not quite.
That is an attempt at whitewashing.

I mean, yes, in the basics you are right. It did stand for 'those not speaking greek'.
But more direct/literal translation would be: 'Braying ones'
Bar-Bar was onomatopoeic for the sounds donkeys made.

Always remember folks, for all the great impact on sciences and cultures they brought forth to the history, ancient Hellenic were horrible people by modern standards.
Their gods we all love to shit upon? They were what the old hellenes considered the pinnacles of existence.
 
Might be a bit rude to torroar but I really like it when he lifts the veil a bit for how he does things as it is actually fascinating, might even inspire others to make their own system based on torr system.
 
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