Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Horium said:
The Imperials were a minor part of the Crusades iirc, Estalians and Bretonnians were mainly heading them.

Besides, The Arabyan Crusades are a valid example to any statesman worth their salt (like let's say Magnus) on what not to do.
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And yet they were wildly successful, gained the empire several colonies and massive amounts of loot.

Also, it isn't really up to the hands of Magnus what most holy orders will do. He might be able to convince them, but he doesn't directly command them.
 
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Prince Sheo said:
And yet they were wildly successful, gained the empire several colonies and massive amounts of loot.

Also, it isn't really up to the hands of Magnus what most holy orders will do. He might be able to convince them, but he doesn't directly command them.
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As far as I know, the Empire didn't get any colonies at that point of time, and we have no idea how much loot the imperial knights obtained (some at the very least, I agree).

As for Magnus not commanding the Cults? Maybe not de iure, but he is the Pious.
If he says jump, the clergy will ask how high.
 
Horium said:
As far as I know, the Empire didn't get any colonies at that point of time, and we have no idea how much loot the imperial knights obtained (some at the very least, I agree).

As for Magnus not commanding the Cults? Maybe not de iure, but he is the Pious.
If he says jump, the clergy will ask how high.
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They did. One of them were destroyed by (probably) the beastmen just two rumour mills ago, Bretonnia also got a few colonies there as well... also, the reason why the Empire founded so many Knightly orders right after the crusades was because of the massive amounts of treasure they brought back with them (I remember reading about this in one of the Knight books? Can't remember which, but it does make sense).

All I'm saying is that a crusade might seem a pretty good idea to a lot of people right now. Especially since all the crusades they've had have been major success so far (Araby, Sylvania) and we might want to temper that desire by taking some milder actions beforehand.
 
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Horium said:
and we have no idea how much loot the imperial knights obtained (some at the very least, I agree).
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Presumably a lot.

"their cities plundered of all their belongings, the Knights of the Great Crusade brought home much plunder from the Sultans' Palaces, including gold and silver, precious gems, silks, furs, and many exotic animals" from the wiki of the Knights Panther. Sounds like a lot to me.
 
Prince Sheo said:
They did. One of them were destroyed by (probably) the beastmen just two rumour mills ago, Bretonnia also got a few colonies there as well... also, the reason why the Empire founded so many Knightly orders right after the crusades was because of the massive amounts of treasure they brought back with them (I remember reading about this in one of the Knight books? Can't remember which, but it does make sense).

All I'm saying is that a crusade might seem a pretty good idea to a lot of people right now. Especially since all the crusades they've had have been major success so far (Araby, Sylvania) and we might want to temper that desire by taking some milder actions beforehand.
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The Sylvania crusades also exhausted the Empire's manpower reserves.

Maybe there will be a desire for another crusade, but probably not before the second decade after the conquest of Sylvania.
 
A thing I don't think y'all are taking into consideration is how those individual Gods feel about their temples being used like this. Like yeah you can apply logic and pragmatic concerns to the humans, but Gods are fickle things.
 
Qeqre said:
they're prolific slavers who sell weapons to Norscans in exchange for Imperial citizens(and other humans).
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Kislev has enslaved imperials many times before and they are currently consorting and harboring a tribe of Kurgans, people as bad as Norscans and the people who spawned the Everchosen.

Qeqre said:
The Sylvania crusades also exhausted the Empire's manpower reserves.

Maybe there will be a desire for another crusade, but probably not before the second decade after the conquest of Sylvania.
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You are banking on the idea that people will be logical, when talking about religion and how their supposed allies have destroyed and desecrated the temples of their gods and are now seemingly negotiating with their greatest enemy.
 
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Practical concerns aside, Freddie has come to have faith in Sigmar, has been blessed by Sigmar and now Kattarin is destroying Sigmar's temples.

Some reaction is called for, at least a sternly worded letter basically saying: WtF, Kattarin?
 
Prince Sheo said:
Kislev has enslaved imperials many times before and they are currently consorting and harboring a tribe of Kurgans, people as bad as Norscans and the people who spawned the Everchosen.
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"Consorting and harbouring people as bad as Norscans" describes Marienburg, Tilea and Araby as well.
Prince Sheo said:
You are banking on the idea that people will be logical, when talking about religion and how their supposed allies have destroyed and desecrated the temples of their gods and are now seemingly negotiating with their greatest enemy.
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I am banking on the idea that the most pious members of society have already volunteered to kill the unholy daemon-summoning vampire menace inside the Empire's borders yes.
 
torroar said:
Karlsbaum Monastery Undergoing Restoration: A sign of both diplomatic success and pious dedication has found its proof in the elder Karlsbaum Monastery, once entirely lost to time and wear, beginning to undergo restoration. A combined work between Talabecland's two Duke's Fuerbach – Krugar and Aloysis – the sons of the current Grand Duke, alongside the Count of Reikland. It is said, and quite openly acknowledged by all parties involved, that it was the Emperor Magnus who facilitated their communications not just with each other but with the Hierarchs of Taal and Rhya of multiple southern provinces. They have come together to restore the Karlsbaum Monastery, a place long fallen fallow. It is a wondrous place of true nature, its very structure seemingly crafted from vegetation itself. It is said an entire 'Warpack' of Longshanks were assembled to clear the place of belligerent spirits who refused to be calmed by the priests. A great many rituals have begun there, sponsored by both provinces at such a holy place to Taal and Rhya. A fine joining of Imperial brotherhood and piety, thanks to the Emperor's remarkable ability to smooth the traditional frictions of provincial and religious interests of the provinces.
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Have to say seeing this much interprovincal cooperation is good, also good a major religious site is being restored since Karlsbaum Monastery sounds very important in worshiping Taal and Rhya.

I wonder if there are any special natural wonders in Ostland that could be converted into a holy site of Taal and Rhya.
 
I can't say much about the temple thing at the moment, but I can say other stuff.

Deathbybunnies said:
Blood and brass? That seems... unwise. Are there no other materials for a bell?
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Should have been bronze, not brass. Dunno how that slipped past my spellcheck.

Dmol8 said:
"stone by stone by High Priest" not "stone by High Priest"

What even were you specifically trying to say here? Some form of slang? Or some sort of writing error?

What Slavic language did you get this word from? I'm just curious. There is nothing wrong with the word, I've just never seen that particular spelling.
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1. Nope. Stone by stone is all that is needed, but I did some alternate modifications.
2. I don't know what you mean, man, it makes sense when I read it. It is a great killer. It is good at killing. Great, in fact. A great killer.
3. Just went searching for translations of the word Wardens. Google translate provided.
 
torroar said:
A grand bell and tower was commissioned by the Grand Theogonist, each bar of brass making it blessed by the highest authority of Sigmar in the land. It is whispered that the Grand Theogonist, both Arch-Lectors, and the Emperor himself both contributed notable amounts of their own blood into the forged metal. This so-called Bell of Purity tolls the time, a cleansing and clear sound to ring out over the previously eldritch silence that once filled Sylvania.
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A brass bell forged with blood? Seriously? You should know better Magnus.
 
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