So if my plan wins we'll be laying down seven ships this year. Wow. A long way from the days when one Excelsior was a big investment, isn't it? Not to mention all the ships we'll have coming nto service.

2312 - 5 Constitution-Bs, 1 Excelsior (EC), 1 Oberth
2313 - Kearsage comes back, 2 Constitution-Bs, 1 Excelsior (EC)
2314 - 2 Centaur-A, 1 Constitution-B, 1 Renaissance, 1 Excelsior

Plenty of new promotion opportunities for starship captains, though it will be a couple of years before we get the next non-Explorer Corps Excelsior for our sector fleets.

And from 2315 onwards it looks like we are getting two Excelsiors a year.

Technically the Federation is already achieving that now with the Earth Exclesior this year, and the Tellarite one next year. 2314 will be an anomaly when only one Excelsior is launched.

It also means that some time soon in the future, when the Andorians get their program running, there will be a year when three Excelsiors are launched.
 
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YAY! Another Huáscar vote!

Sousa's Latina; let's give her a bit of a "welcome to the admiralty" present. :)

[Also supporting #KeepPathfinderAndSojournerTogether ]

So if my plan wins we'll be laying down seven ships this year. Wow. A long way from the days when one Excelsior was a big investment, isn't it? Not to mention all the ships we'll have coming nto service.

2312 - 5 Constitution-Bs, 1 Excelsior (EC), 1 Oberth
2313 - Kearsage comes back, 2 Constitution-Bs, 1 Excelsior (EC)
2314 - 2 Centaur-A, 1 Constitution-B, 1 Renaissance, 1 Excelsior

Plenty of new promotion opportunities for starship captains, though it will be a couple of years before we get the next non-Explorer Corps Excelsior for our sector fleets.
Five Constitution-Bs this year, actually. One from Andor, two from Earth, two from Mars. ;)
 
I can't remember, is there a visual reference for what our Connie-Bs look like? I've seen a couple of pictures for the Rennies, the Excelsiors are well-imaged, and I've got decent mental pictures for the Centaurs and Mirandas.
 
I can't remember, is there a visual reference for what our Connie-Bs look like? I've seen a couple of pictures for the Rennies, the Excelsiors are well-imaged, and I've got decent mental pictures for the Centaurs and Mirandas.

I did this a while ago, though the from the descriptions given later on the nacelles actually stayed the same as the Constitution-As. I might get around to editing later.

To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
 
I did this a while ago, though the from the descriptions given later on the nacelles actually stayed the same as the Constitution-As. I might get around to editing later.
Indeed, I need to go back and edit I Can't Connie-Bee-Lieve It for similar reasons. Also browsing the SDB thread tells me the comparative statblock between it and the connie A changed slightly...?
 
[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[x][CREW] Explorer Corps
[x][NAME1] Discovery
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Huascar
 
At least SOME of the Constitution-Bs reuse old Constitution-A nacelles. There may be modifications done to some of the internal machinery, and some of the Constitution-Bs may be using new-built nacelles. It's entirely possible that there are Flight I and Flight II Constitution-Bs.

If so, Flight I would be the "first four" (Lexington, Hood, Republic, and Korolev, the ones we saved 40 SR each on), and at most one or two of the others. They'd be reusing the 'A' nacelles that were still serviceable from the wrecked-in-mothballs Constitution-As. The first four were picked because they had two serviceable nacelles and a serviceable warp core to reuse. Subsequent ConnieBees would probably need to get the nacelles and warp core from at least two different ships (say, using Intrepid's starboard nacelle and the port nacelle and warp core from, oh, Exeter). Or using spares that were originally placed in storage at the end of the Constitution-A production run and never re-used.

Potemkin was ordered to be left untouched, probably because SOMEBODY had a hair-brained scheme to send the ship out as a "fake Connie." ;)

Enterprise-A was ordered to be left untouched, with an eye to use as a museum ship, but damage from Chang's attack in '93 might have made some of the parts unsalvageable anyway.

...

Meanwhile, any subsequent Constitution-B builds would be of the "Flight II" type. They'd use new-build nacelles containing a varying proportion of the components of the old originals. That would include the ConnieBees being built by some of the member world fleets. And those might look more like Ato's drawing.

...

The deflector dishes are new, but look close enough to identical that Uhura needed a minute to tell the difference- so using movie Connie looks for that is perfectly reasonable. The hullform of the saucer and engineering hulls should be just about identical to the Constitution-A, even though the hulls themselves had to be rebuilt- because they were rebuilt to the Constituion-A blueprints.

However, there were some changes to internal layout. For example, if we go by my recent Old Voices, New Vigor omake, the Constitution-A bridge modules were recycled, so the bridge of a ConnieBee looks pretty much exactly like the Enterprise bridge from Star Trek VI. But with 2310-vintage computers replacing 2270-vintage computers, there was extra space in the bridge module for the captain to have a ready room near the bridge- there's no evidence that the Connies ever had ready rooms before.

And I wouldn't be surprised if some of the changes are actually idiosyncratic, depending on what parts were or were not available from which series. There might be a ConnieBee or two for which some of the internal furnishings are actually TOS-era, for instance, rather than movie-era. Or in parts of the ship, more modern, TNG-looking interiors may have been used new-built, depending on what was available and when.

...

Also, here are the statlines under consideration, based on Oneiros's retcon


Constitution(TOS)_ C3 S3 H3 L2 P4 D4
Constitution-A____C4 S3 H3 L3 P4 D5
Constitution-B____C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5

Blooded Connie-A_C5 S4 H4 L4 P5 D5 <---- This was Cheron's statline at game start
Elite Connie (TOS)_C6 S6 H6 L5 P7 D4 <---- TOS Enterprise's statline

Compare to
Excelsior________ C6 S5 H4 L5 P5 D6

And you now see why the Excelsiors were such a big deal.
 
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[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[x][CREW] Explorer Corps
[x][NAME1] Odyssey
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Huascar
 
I feel we need more Escorts, so picking a plan with lots of those. As for the names, just picking somebody else's vote that I like.

[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[x][CREW] Explorer Corps
[x][NAME1] Discovery
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Huascar
 
Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) | Page 900 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.6

Task: BUILD

[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-1 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-2 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] 40 Eridani A 3mt-A: leave open for Kearsage repair
-[X] Lor'Vela 1mt @ Q2: Constitution-B
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-A @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-C @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-1 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Eketha]
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-2 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Calypso]
No. of Votes: 20
Plan: ◈1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A

aeqnai
aledeth
AlphaDelta
anon_user
Briefvoice
Gingganz
Goat
Iron Wolf
JesseJ
KnightDisciple
lbmaian
Leila Hann
Nervos Belli
Night
NullVoid
Questara
Simon_Jester
UberJJK
Vehrec
Void Stalker

[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 4 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-1 @ Q4: Miranda-A refit [Fidelity]
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-2 @ Q4: Miranda-A refit [Shield]
-[X] 40 Eridani A 3mt-A: leave open for Kearsage repair
-[X] Lor'Vela 1mt @ Q2: Constitution-B
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-A @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-C @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-1 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Eketha]
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-2 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Calypso]
No. of Votes: 7
Plan: ◈1 Connie-B, 4 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior

Ato
DarknessSmiles
Derek58
Happerry
Muramasa
Night_stalker
tryrar

[X][BUILD] Plan 2 Centaur-A, 3 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-1 @ Q4: Miranda-A refit [Fidelity]
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-2 @ Q4: Miranda-A refit [Shield]
-[X] 40 Eridani A 3mt-A: leave open for Kearsage repair
-[X] Lor'Vela 1mt @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Eketha]
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-A @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-C @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-1 @ Q2: Centaur-A
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-2 @ Q2: Centaur-A
No. of Votes: 3
Plan: ◈2 Centaur-A, 3 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior

ClawClawBite
Nix
pheonix89


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Task: CREW

[x][CREW] Explorer Corps
No. of Votes: 35
UbeOne
aeqnai
AKuz
aledeth
AlphaDelta
anon_user
Ato
Briefvoice
DarknessSmiles
Derek58
Gingganz
Goat
Happerry
Iron Wolf
Japanime
JesseJ
KnightDisciple
kyuden
lbmaian
Leila Hann
Muramasa
Nervos Belli
Night
Night_stalker
NullVoid
pheonix89
Questara
Random Member
Raron
Shard
Simon_Jester
SynchronizedWritersBlock
tryrar
UberJJK
Void Stalker


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Task: NAME1

[X][NAME1] Odyssey
No. of Votes: 16
Ato
AKuz
aledeth
AlphaDelta
Briefvoice
Iron Wolf
KlavoHunter
KnightDisciple
Leila Hann
Muramasa
Night
Night_stalker
Questara
Simon_Jester
tryrar
Void Stalker

[x][NAME1] Discovery
No. of Votes: 11
UbeOne
aeqnai
DarknessSmiles
Derek58
Gingganz
Goat
Japanime
Muer'ci
pheonix89
Shard
UberJJK

[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
No. of Votes: 4
Nervos Belli
anon_user
JesseJ
kyuden

[X][NAME1] USS Curiosity
No. of Votes: 1
Raron

[x][NAME1] USS Miracht
No. of Votes: 1
Random Member

[x][NAME1] Curiosity
No. of Votes: 1
NullVoid

[X][NAME1] Visionary
No. of Votes: 1
Happerry

[x][NAME1] Shallash
No. of Votes: 1
SynchronizedWritersBlock

[X][NAME1] Starblind
No. of Votes: 1
Tasoli


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Task: NAME2

[X][NAME2] Defiant
No. of Votes: 29
UbeOne
aeqnai
AKuz
aledeth
AlphaDelta
anon_user
Briefvoice
DarknessSmiles
Derek58
Gingganz
Goat
Iron Wolf
JesseJ
KlavoHunter
KnightDisciple
kyuden
Muer'ci
Muramasa
Nervos Belli
Night
Night_stalker
NullVoid
pheonix89
Questara
Shard
Simon_Jester
SynchronizedWritersBlock
tryrar
UberJJK

[X][NAME2] Kirk
No. of Votes: 3
Ato
Leila Hann
Void Stalker

[X][NAME2] Miracht
No. of Votes: 1
Happerry


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Task: NAME3

[X][NAME3] Valiant
No. of Votes: 13
pheonix89
AlphaDelta
Gingganz
JesseJ
kyuden
Muer'ci
Muramasa
Nervos Belli
Night_stalker
NullVoid
SynchronizedWritersBlock
tryrar
UberJJK

[X][NAME3] Huáscar
No. of Votes: 11
AKuz
aeqnai
aledeth
anon_user
Briefvoice
Goat
Iron Wolf
KlavoHunter
KnightDisciple
Night
Simon_Jester

[X][NAME3] Hravishran
No. of Votes: 3
Ato
Leila Hann
Void Stalker

[X][NAME3] Exeter
No. of Votes: 2
UbeOne
Shard

[X][NAME3] Intrepid
No. of Votes: 2
Derek58
DarknessSmiles

[X][NAME3] Harmony
No. of Votes: 1
Happerry

[X][NAME3] Kirk
No. of Votes: 1
Questara

Total No. of Voters: 41
 
Okay, so:

[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-1 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-2 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] 40 Eridani A 3mt-A: leave open for Kearsage repair
-[X] Lor'Vela 1mt @ Q2: Constitution-B
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-A @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-C @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-1 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Eketha]
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-2 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Calypso]

EC
Odyssey
Defiant
Valiant
 
Omake - Aaron Wolfe, Klingon - Iron Wolf
Just wondering, but was Ensign Wolfe a human, or a klingon?
Newly minted Lieutenant Commander Wolfe had just sat down at a workdesk in his quarters as the door chime went off. He looked forlornly at the sandwich he'd been about to tuck into -- roast beef with red peppers, cheddar cheese, all the right sauces and horseradish dip. He rolled his eyes at the injustice of it all and called out, "Yes?"

The door slid open and one of his junior staff -- how weird a concept that still was -- poked her head around the corner. It was Ensign Sharizz, an Apatia.

"Sir," they said, shuffling the rest of their body into view, "I have a quick question."

Wolfe set his sandwich down and sighed, "Yes?"

"Are you a Klingon, sir?"

Wolfe blinked at Sharizz quite humanly, his human-face blank as he tried to comprehend the question, "Wha-- no."

"Oh thanks, I--"

"I mean, and I'm not judging, but do I look Klingon? Like, honest opinion here."

"No sir, just--"

"I am a tiny man, Sharizz."

"Yes sir--"

"Very tiny. I don't think they make Klingons this tiny, even as children."

"No sir-"

"So small. I would be bullied. I wouldn't survive!"

"Sir! I have to disagree -- I think you're very wily and determined sir, you would persevere!"

Wolfe blinked, "Oh. Thanks." An awkward pause, "But yeah, I'm human."

"Okay!" The Apatia buzzed pleasantly, "Thanks!" They waved goodbye and without further ado, strolled out of the doorway, which slid shut soon after.

Wolfe stared at it. Looked at his sandwich a moment, then back to the door. Kept staring at it. Finally, he groaned and stood up, waving the door open and walk-sprinting down the hall after Sharizz. "Wait!" He called down after them, "But why?!"
 
It's the name, you see.

Sometimes you have alien races with the name Bob, and you can't tell!

(I mean I guess a text-based game does fulfill the ideal of a colorblind society in regard to racism, but still...)
 
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