Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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Maybe she saw a picture of a Klingon from before the Forehead Thing?
Or how sure are we that the Apiata identify things primarily by sight? Maybe he sounds or smells like one.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Or how sure are we that the Apiata identify things primarily by sight? Maybe he sounds or smells like one.
Speaking of Klingons, have you heard the Q'onos Grand Opera's rendition of Hamilton? Someone compared Shakespeare and Lin Manuel Miranda, and the result was them deciding to put it on. Though the 'Ten Duel Commandments' might have played a role in that-being Klingons though, the duels are pretty extended compared to most human performances. I hear tickets for the live performances are practically impossible for even Klingons to get, but the cast recording itself is a thing to hear.
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@OneirosTheWriter couple of bookkeeping items
Personnel: Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse has his old bonus of +2 to diplomacy not his new bonus of +4, Amarkia and Rigel Commodores have not been added, Ferasa and SBZ commodores need to be voted on, Patricia Chen is showing as both Shipyard Ops and at UP Shipyard (her old posting)
Members and Affiliates:
Rigellians need to be moved to Current Full Members, right now in Pending Ratification, Orions should be at 393/500, Gaeni 356/500 and Kadeshi 188/500, Licori should be 90/100. Also we need the last roll for the diplo push on the Kadeshi.
Personnel: Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse has his old bonus of +2 to diplomacy not his new bonus of +4, Amarkia and Rigel Commodores have not been added, Ferasa and SBZ commodores need to be voted on, Patricia Chen is showing as both Shipyard Ops and at UP Shipyard (her old posting)
Members and Affiliates:
Rigellians need to be moved to Current Full Members, right now in Pending Ratification, Orions should be at 393/500, Gaeni 356/500 and Kadeshi 188/500, Licori should be 90/100. Also we need the last roll for the diplo push on the Kadeshi.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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Huh now that I look at those Mirandas - aren't those both the ones in SBZ
Probably should have kept one of those Mirandas in the SBZ and refit Tellar's Shield instead, since we already planned to replace Shield with Bull in Q2, and don't have any replacements planned for the SBZ this year (i.e. the incoming Zephyr was not planned to replace Eketha and Calypso in Q2).
edit: Realized that the refits would've started in Q2 anyway, so there actually wouldn't be an issue with refitting Fidelity.
You know, considering how resource constrained the member worlds are compared to big ol' Starfleet, maybe we should have let them be the ones to reuse the old Connie-A parts to save on SR... Well too late to do anything about that.
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I assume some sort of Social Media Shenanigans
Someone's description of Wolfe was adjusted by the PADD's autocorrect/predictive typing?
Or it was a dare, yeah.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
Maybe he's Star Trek's equivalent of Nobby Nobbs. He has a signed certificate proving he's human on him at all times, because he keeps needing to pull it out.
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- Mid-Atlantic
I dunno, I wouldn't feel right about it without the cigar-shaped engineering hull and big blue deflector.
Valiant is a good name for a Constitution-class. This is not an electoral defeat, this is merely a different electoral victory. But yes, with luck, Huáscar will be in one of these days. It preserves the Lexington/Intrepid/Saratoga/Hood feel without being like "yes, Earth consists entirely of English-speakers, why do you ask?"
I suspect that by the time the member worlds concluded the project was a good enough idea to be worth trying, the supply of Constitution-A parts in good condition had already been used up. Remember that we commissioned like five of these things in 2309, and two in 2310, before the MWCO was even a thing.
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Now, I'm a bit tempted to buzz Cardassia Prime with aI dunno, I wouldn't feel right about it without the cigar-shaped engineering hull and big blue deflector.
Valiant is a good name for a Constitution-class. This is not an electoral defeat, this is merely a different electoral victory. But yes, with luck, Huáscar will be in one of these days. It preserves the Lexington/Intrepid/Saratoga/Hood feel without being like "yes, Earth consists entirely of English-speakers, why do you ask?"
I suspect that by the time the member worlds concluded the project was a good enough idea to be worth trying, the supply of Constitution-A parts in good condition had already been used up. Remember that we commissioned like five of these things in 2309, and two in 2310, before the MWCO was even a thing.
Or buzz the Hierarchy, with the addition of a few Apiata ships.
Edit: Huh. That's pretty much Base Strike.
Now, I'm a bit tempted to buzz Cardassia Prime with aGalExcelsior Wing and a Constitution Wing. We certainly will have enough.
Or buzz the Hierarchy, with the addition of a few Apiata ships.
Edit: Huh. That's pretty much Base Strike.
I have already posted a desire (if the Syndraxian situation is still going on then) to a 'Show the Flag' tour with the USS Ambassador leading a Rennie squadron ....
That was a screw up on my part. The Fidelity (Sol Sector) and the Shield (Tellar Sector) were supposed to be the ones that would go to refit in Q2 according to the fleet distribution plan, but I was careless in making my post and incorrectly copied down the wrong two names. Still, it's what people voted for. On the other hand, they also voted on the Fleet Distribution plan.
@OneirosTheWriter how do you want to handle this? According to the fleet distribution plan, the two Miranda going to refit in Q2 should be the Fidelity and the Shield. According to the build schedule, it's the Eketha and the Calypso. Which are you going to follow?
It's probably better for us to leave the two Miranda on the SBZ in case they need to help fend off a large Sydraxian raiding force, but whatever.
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That's interesting. Is Patricia Chen wearing two hats right now? It makes me wonder if we could use her old trick to push an Explorer's build time by a year for pp, on top of her new bonus for parallel builds.
Edit: Hmm, probably not, given her old rank is listed in the latter entry.
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Yeah. Plus, this is still 2312Q1. Basic common sense dictates that Oneiros has to FIRST hold a vote for Sousa to become admiral, THEN a vote for Chen to be appointed in Sousa's place, THEN a vote for someone else to be appointed in Chen's place. Inevitably, the process of doing this, while editing the table of organization on the fly, is going to result in some names being duplicated, or something.
Best not to worry about it, nothing to see here, move along, just some swamp gas.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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This is done at the end of the quarter. For example, in 2311 Q1, the last Qloathi diplo push took place in Shipyard Ops 2311.Q1 - Results. This is done for symmetry with the Q2 snakepit, where if we choose a diplo push then, that diplo push takes place at the end of the quarter in the snakepit results update.
I'm like 90% sure that no one actually checked let alone cared about the fleet deployment minutiae when voting for the ship build plan.
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Wow, thanks for the condescending post. My day is now complete.
2312.Q1 - MWCO Report
- Location
- Australia
2312.Q1
Member World Coordination Office Report
Admiral,
The last year was productive in terms of shipbuilding, with many new civilian and state ships joining the fleets. The first Starfleet designs for Amarki and the Betazoids have been built, and the imminent launch of the UES Liberty is anticipated by all. The growing strength of the Member Worlds fleets is shaping up to be an important factor in any factor the Federation may be forced to fight with Cardassia.
In terms of Explorer Grade production, the situation is more fascinating than ever. With initial reports from Andoria indicating that they are placing an order for an Excelsior in an indigenous shipyard, we now have four Excelsiors (including Liberty) that will be under construction during this quarter. This doesn't account for the Queenship being produced at Apinae, nor the Megatortoise believed to be starting soon at Lagan-Shir in Rigel.
Of fleet assets, the bulk is formed by a mix of Miranda-A refits, new Centaur-As, and a few Constitution-Bs. A number of fleets are hanging out for the completion of the Renaissance prototype and waiting to see if it is worth the investment.
With the lengthening of logistics chains and trade in goods between powers, there is still a continuing pace of transport construction in member world shipyards. Currently there are eight Cargo Ships and three Freighters under construction. A number of Auxiliary ships are also in production. The new year's orders are yet to go in, however.
End Report
Current Priorities
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Resources
Name - BR - SR - Off - Enl - Tech
Andor - 235 - 225 - 7.2 - 7.5 - 7.5
Vulcan - 150 - 150 - 1.5 - 1.75 - 1.5
Tellar - 275 - 150 - 2.6 - 1.75 - 1.75
Earth - 225 - 225 - 4.4 - 3.8 - 3.8
Amarki - 110 - 145 - 3.5 - 0.5 - 1.5
Betazoids - 155 - 165 - 2.75 - 3.85 - 2.75
Caitain - 126 - 170 - 10.8 - 10.8 - 7.2
Rigel - 375 - 185 - 3.75 - 10 - 5.25
Incomes
Andor - 50 - 40 - 1.2 - 2 - 2
Vulcan - 35 - 30 - 1 - 1.75 - 1.5
Tellarites - 90 - 45 - 1.25 - 1.75 - 1.75
Humans - 100 - 50 - 1.8 - 2 - 2
Amarki - 90 - 65 - 2 - 2.5 - 1.5
Betazoids - 30 - 30 - 1.15 - 1.45 - 1.15
Caitian - 80 - 80 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 0.8
Rigel - 80 - 40 - 1.5 - 4 - 3.5
Free Berths
Andor - 1x2.5mt, 1x1mt, 1x500kt
Vulcan - 2x500kt
Tellar - 3x1mt, 1x500kt
Human - 1x1mt, 1x500kt
Amarki - 2x2.5mt, 1x1mt
Betazoids - 1x1000kt, 1x400kt
Caitian - 4x600kt
Rigel - 1x2.5mt, 1x1.5mt
Current Fleets
[Pending...]
[ ][PRIORITY] Pick One Member World Priority to change
Suggested possible priorities can be things such as:
Focus on building a particular ship type/class
Focus on more cargo shipping
Focus on increasing resources/recruitment
Set a target for Combat or Defence
Start designing a new ship
The Vulcan High Command is concerned about their construction capacity, and is preparing to start a new shipyard, which they hope to expand further in the future. They are trying to decide which path to take, and are coming to Starfleet to see what would fit best with Starfleet's future direction.
[ ][VULCAN] 1x2000kt
[ ][VULCAN] 2x1000kt
The Betazoids are looking for a fleet doctrine to follow, and are wanting to know what the head of Starfleet would recommend.
[ ][BETA] Lone Ranger
[ ][BETA] Combined Arms
[ ][BETA] Swarm
The Amarki have two 2500kt berths lying unused at their Arsenal and are looking to make use of one of them. A number of the other member worlds are interested in using them, and they would like to hear what Starfleet would suggest?
[ ][AMARKI] Loan the berth to United Earth for a 2nd Excelsior
[ ][AMARKI] Keep clear for use as a repair bay for any damaged Explorers
[ ][AMARKI] Spend two years upgrading it to a 3mt berth
Rigellian Fleet Command would like to gain experience working with Starfleet. They are prepared to loan us one of their Turtleships, the Monsaad, to spend a year-long tour with us, where they would follow one of our ships and help them with any event they go to. Of course, the potential for miscommunication is real!
[ ][RIGEL] Turn down offer
[ ][RIGEL] Assign to follow Explorer Corps
[ ][RIGEL] Assign to follow (Write in ship)
[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-1 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-2 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] 40 Eridani A 3mt-A: leave open for Kearsage repair
-[X] Lor'Vela 1mt @ Q2: Constitution-B
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-A @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-C @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-1 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Eketha]
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-2 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Calypso]
EC
Odyssey
Defiant
Valiant
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-1 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] San Francisco 1mt-2 @ Q4: Centaur-A
-[X] 40 Eridani A 3mt-A: leave open for Kearsage repair
-[X] Lor'Vela 1mt @ Q2: Constitution-B
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-A @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 3mt-C @ Q2: Excelsior
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-1 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Eketha]
-[X] Utopia Planitia 1mt-2 @ Q2: Miranda-A refit [Calypso]
EC
Odyssey
Defiant
Valiant
Member World Coordination Office Report
Admiral,
The last year was productive in terms of shipbuilding, with many new civilian and state ships joining the fleets. The first Starfleet designs for Amarki and the Betazoids have been built, and the imminent launch of the UES Liberty is anticipated by all. The growing strength of the Member Worlds fleets is shaping up to be an important factor in any factor the Federation may be forced to fight with Cardassia.
In terms of Explorer Grade production, the situation is more fascinating than ever. With initial reports from Andoria indicating that they are placing an order for an Excelsior in an indigenous shipyard, we now have four Excelsiors (including Liberty) that will be under construction during this quarter. This doesn't account for the Queenship being produced at Apinae, nor the Megatortoise believed to be starting soon at Lagan-Shir in Rigel.
Of fleet assets, the bulk is formed by a mix of Miranda-A refits, new Centaur-As, and a few Constitution-Bs. A number of fleets are hanging out for the completion of the Renaissance prototype and waiting to see if it is worth the investment.
With the lengthening of logistics chains and trade in goods between powers, there is still a continuing pace of transport construction in member world shipyards. Currently there are eight Cargo Ships and three Freighters under construction. A number of Auxiliary ships are also in production. The new year's orders are yet to go in, however.
End Report
Current Priorities
| Name | Short-Term | Mid-Term | Long-Term |
| Andorians | Build Excelsior | Miranda-A Refits | |
| Vulcans | Miranda-A Refits | Build-up D | Inc Civ Shipping |
| Humans | Cargo Ships | Miranda-A Refits | Prep for Renaissance |
| Tellarites | Miranda-A Refits | Prep for Renaissance | Increase Civilian Shipping |
| Amarki | Centaur-A | Cargo Ships | New Amarki Escort (2320) |
| Betazed | Centaur-As | Expand Shipyards | Improve Budget |
| Caitian | Recover Shipping Losses | Expand Shipyards | Excelsior |
| Rigel | Recruitment Drive | Improve Tech Recruitment | 2nd Megatortoise |
Resources
Name - BR - SR - Off - Enl - Tech
Andor - 235 - 225 - 7.2 - 7.5 - 7.5
Vulcan - 150 - 150 - 1.5 - 1.75 - 1.5
Tellar - 275 - 150 - 2.6 - 1.75 - 1.75
Earth - 225 - 225 - 4.4 - 3.8 - 3.8
Amarki - 110 - 145 - 3.5 - 0.5 - 1.5
Betazoids - 155 - 165 - 2.75 - 3.85 - 2.75
Caitain - 126 - 170 - 10.8 - 10.8 - 7.2
Rigel - 375 - 185 - 3.75 - 10 - 5.25
Incomes
Andor - 50 - 40 - 1.2 - 2 - 2
Vulcan - 35 - 30 - 1 - 1.75 - 1.5
Tellarites - 90 - 45 - 1.25 - 1.75 - 1.75
Humans - 100 - 50 - 1.8 - 2 - 2
Amarki - 90 - 65 - 2 - 2.5 - 1.5
Betazoids - 30 - 30 - 1.15 - 1.45 - 1.15
Caitian - 80 - 80 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 0.8
Rigel - 80 - 40 - 1.5 - 4 - 3.5
Free Berths
Andor - 1x2.5mt, 1x1mt, 1x500kt
Vulcan - 2x500kt
Tellar - 3x1mt, 1x500kt
Human - 1x1mt, 1x500kt
Amarki - 2x2.5mt, 1x1mt
Betazoids - 1x1000kt, 1x400kt
Caitian - 4x600kt
Rigel - 1x2.5mt, 1x1.5mt
Current Fleets
[Pending...]
[ ][PRIORITY] Pick One Member World Priority to change
Suggested possible priorities can be things such as:
Focus on building a particular ship type/class
Focus on more cargo shipping
Focus on increasing resources/recruitment
Set a target for Combat or Defence
Start designing a new ship
The Vulcan High Command is concerned about their construction capacity, and is preparing to start a new shipyard, which they hope to expand further in the future. They are trying to decide which path to take, and are coming to Starfleet to see what would fit best with Starfleet's future direction.
[ ][VULCAN] 1x2000kt
[ ][VULCAN] 2x1000kt
The Betazoids are looking for a fleet doctrine to follow, and are wanting to know what the head of Starfleet would recommend.
[ ][BETA] Lone Ranger
[ ][BETA] Combined Arms
[ ][BETA] Swarm
The Amarki have two 2500kt berths lying unused at their Arsenal and are looking to make use of one of them. A number of the other member worlds are interested in using them, and they would like to hear what Starfleet would suggest?
[ ][AMARKI] Loan the berth to United Earth for a 2nd Excelsior
[ ][AMARKI] Keep clear for use as a repair bay for any damaged Explorers
[ ][AMARKI] Spend two years upgrading it to a 3mt berth
Rigellian Fleet Command would like to gain experience working with Starfleet. They are prepared to loan us one of their Turtleships, the Monsaad, to spend a year-long tour with us, where they would follow one of our ships and help them with any event they go to. Of course, the potential for miscommunication is real!
[ ][RIGEL] Turn down offer
[ ][RIGEL] Assign to follow Explorer Corps
[ ][RIGEL] Assign to follow (Write in ship)
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It's on my to-do list to update. Utopia Planitia has gone to an Andorian atm who was promoted into the role. Will be some updates to the 2311 Rat Race post to help keep things in order soon....ish.
@OneirosTheWriter, the Betazoids do their own doctrine research, right? They won't be at a disadvantage if we recommend a doctrine Starfleet hasn't researched?
ClawClawBite
Mad Engineering!
- Location
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[X][VULCAN] 2x1000kt
Between the Renaissance, and the next generation science ship, plus commercial shipping, repairs and such, 1mt is a useful size
[X][BETA] Lone Ranger
I think the Betazoid temperament is better suited to fewer bigger ships. Especially given their preference for high presence ships.
[X][AMARKI] Spend two years upgrading it to a 3mt berth
They are going to love the Ambassador!
[X][RIGEL] Assign to follow Explorer Corps
Turtles fight with Honor!
Between the Renaissance, and the next generation science ship, plus commercial shipping, repairs and such, 1mt is a useful size
[X][BETA] Lone Ranger
I think the Betazoid temperament is better suited to fewer bigger ships. Especially given their preference for high presence ships.
[X][AMARKI] Spend two years upgrading it to a 3mt berth
They are going to love the Ambassador!
[X][RIGEL] Assign to follow Explorer Corps
Turtles fight with Honor!
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] USS Sappho
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Hm... I'm honestly not sure any member world's priorities "need" changing.
The Betazoids are never going to have enough heavy ships to make Lone Ranger worthwhile; it comes down to a choice between Combined Arms and Swarm. I think Swarm is probably optimal for their needs, but realistically Sousa (who is presumably on board with Kahurangi's Lone Ranger focus) would recommend Combined Arms.
While some day our next-generation cruiser will almost certainly require a two-megaton berth, one-megaton berths will remain useful for a long time to come. The Vulcans should go with the double berths.
I like the idea of asking the Amarki to keep a berth clear for repairs, but that would be kind of selfish. I'd recommend upgrading it to three megatons; either they'll like the Ambassador, or they'll think it's insufficiently badass and try to design something fightier. Either way, win-win.
I have NO IDEA what to recommend to the Rigellians.
Actually, this could be helpful to our Explorer Corps. One of the weaknesses of the Explorer Corps expansion process is that the new ships are less experienced and therefore weaker and less capable of 'going it alone,' compared to the older ones. The three Excelsiors we got in 2300 had Veteran crews, whereas when we build one now it has a Green crew. S'harien has narrowly escaped disaster several times, and Miracht experienced some disasters including the one that destroyed the ship.
[I am in the process of re-evaluating the underlined argument below. It may not be as good as I thought. Good alternatives from the regular fleet that serve a similar purpose would include having the turtleship accompany Kumari, Cheron, or Endurance.]
So having themegatortoise turtleship accompany one of the newer Explorer Corps Excelsiors (Stargazer or S'harien) sounds good. Since Stargazer may be going off on a looooong journey soon, S'harien might be the better choice. Plus, Saavik is a very experienced Explorer Corps officer even if her ship isn't a very experienced ship. She is likely to have good insight and advice for the Rigellians.
[][VULCAN] 2x1000kt
[][BETA] Combined Arms
[][AMARKI] Spend two years upgrading it to a 3mt berth
[][RIGEL] Assign to follow Explorer Corps ship S'harien
(Vote sanitized)
The Betazoids are never going to have enough heavy ships to make Lone Ranger worthwhile; it comes down to a choice between Combined Arms and Swarm. I think Swarm is probably optimal for their needs, but realistically Sousa (who is presumably on board with Kahurangi's Lone Ranger focus) would recommend Combined Arms.
While some day our next-generation cruiser will almost certainly require a two-megaton berth, one-megaton berths will remain useful for a long time to come. The Vulcans should go with the double berths.
I like the idea of asking the Amarki to keep a berth clear for repairs, but that would be kind of selfish. I'd recommend upgrading it to three megatons; either they'll like the Ambassador, or they'll think it's insufficiently badass and try to design something fightier. Either way, win-win.
Actually, this could be helpful to our Explorer Corps. One of the weaknesses of the Explorer Corps expansion process is that the new ships are less experienced and therefore weaker and less capable of 'going it alone,' compared to the older ones. The three Excelsiors we got in 2300 had Veteran crews, whereas when we build one now it has a Green crew. S'harien has narrowly escaped disaster several times, and Miracht experienced some disasters including the one that destroyed the ship.
[I am in the process of re-evaluating the underlined argument below. It may not be as good as I thought. Good alternatives from the regular fleet that serve a similar purpose would include having the turtleship accompany Kumari, Cheron, or Endurance.]
So having the
[][VULCAN] 2x1000kt
[][BETA] Combined Arms
[][AMARKI] Spend two years upgrading it to a 3mt berth
[][RIGEL] Assign to follow Explorer Corps ship S'harien
(Vote sanitized)
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Keep in mind there's no point in getting a 3mt berth two years from now. That's probably more than half a decade away from the completion of the Ambassador prototype even on the most ambitious schedules. Go for the UE Excelsior instead.