When are we planning to start naming explorers after Betazoids, Caitians, and Rigellians? (We already got an Amarki, right, or am I misremembering?)

I came up with a couple of names for the Caitian and rigellians, and a new one for the Tellarites a while ago. Rru'adorr and Atuin as Caitian and Rigellian mythological figures respectively, and Voshev as a famous Tellarite vehicle name.

I think the next one should be Caitain followed by Rigellian, and then a new Tellarite one.
 
I thought we were on schedule for a 8 Combat Ambassador by 2313?
Nope. We can barely scrape out a Combat 5, and that's with an expensive 10 phaser banks.

2316/7 looks alright, but it depends on how research is going. @Nix?

[X][BUILD] Base Plan 1 Connie-B, 4 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Lexington
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant

Lexington was the Duranium Lady's old command. Let's do her a favor and make a new one.
 
Also, it isn't actually capped at 5, unless you mean phasers alone.
No. The Tier 1 Twin Phasers alone get only ~2. Torpedoes bring that up by another ~2. The rest is other fun stuff, like Targeting Computers. EDIT: They were buffed. It's okay now, if a bit expensive. I'll need to play around and see if the buff allows for a valid design now.

And vote update:

[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Lexington
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant
 
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Nope. We can barely scrape out a Combat 5, and that's with an expensive 10 phaser banks.

2316/7 looks alright, but it depends on how research is going. @Nix?

[X][BUILD] Base Plan 1 Connie-B, 4 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Lexington
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant

Lexington was the Duranium Lady's old command. Let's do her a favor and make a new one.
I thought Lexington is a Connie-B?
 
No. The Tier 1 Twin Phasers alone get only ~2. Torpedoes bring that up by another ~2. The rest is other fun stuff, like Targeting Computers. EDIT: They were buffed. It's okay now, if a bit expensive. I'll need to play around and see if the buff allows for a valid design now.

And vote update:

[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Lexington
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant

Lexington is the name that has already been given to one of the recently launched Constitution-Bs.

The one that is being assigned as Orion task force Flagship in fact.
 
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[x][CREW] Explorer Corps

[x][NAME1] USS Miracht

*shakes fist at the universe*

Also, didn't we get pp when we named the 2nd Miracht?
 
Since we seem to be going either 'concepts' or 'things specific to members' for our EC ships, I think Odyessy is more apropro than Discovery considering we lack human-stuff.

Then again our Admiralty is heavy human so maybe it all balances out.

[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Huascar
 
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[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant

Let's give the Mars lobby that builds half our starships some love. Plus old rover names make good EC ship names.
 
[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant

Let's give the Mars lobby that builds half our starships some love. Plus old rover names make good EC ship names.
Sounds good.

Vote update:

[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant
 
Ah. Dangit.

How about Saratoga?
Personally, I'd recommend you just go with Huáscar for NAME3, because that was a badass ship and I like the idea of having a little non-Anglophone diversity.

You know what? I'm going to vote 'Huáscar ' for one of the new ConnieBees. Just so we have something cool. By the way, I'm not putting the accent in during the vote, but will do so when the ship is actually being named. Because Huáscar was awesome.

Huáscar (ironclad) - Wikipedia

"I was dodging torpedoes before it was cool!"

[No seriously, the then-Peruvian ironclad Huáscar, named after an Inca emperor, has the honor of being the first ship to evade the first self-propelled torpedo ever fired in battle on Earth. This is probably a good omen.]

[X][BUILD] Plan 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[x][CREW] Explorer Corps
[x][NAME1] Odyssey
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Huascar

I thought we were on schedule for a 8 Combat Ambassador by 2313?
That was before Oneiros decided to completely revamp the custom ship design process. Fortunately, it seems as though maybe this was a false alarm, but you see why there's an issue.

Also, it isn't actually capped at 5, unless you mean phasers alone.
Okay, that's reassuring- if so, this was a false alarm.

If you have additional questions we should really go to the SDB thread with them. Questions that are directly about the design spreadsheet is exactly why it exists.
SWB, the problem is that the separate design thread has caused us to be so... insulated... from the design process that people who aren't actively involved in design don't even know basic things about the process. A lot of people are working on the basis of information or assumptions that may well be a month or two out of date.

A certain amount of confusion is an inevitable result of this process. And frankly, trying to cram all the expression of that confusion back into the SDB thread isn't going to solve the problem, because of the large number of people who either don't read that thread, or who simply aren't going to be able to figure out enough of the details to get fully up to speed in the time available.

Was it already allocated? I just remembered it being the Connie that the Duranium Lady served on.

Side note: Duranium Lady is a lot easier to spell.
Alpha, you liked the omake where I reviewed this stuff. You hugged the one where I had Leslie riding on Lexington ... you did read it, right? ;)

The USS Lexington is the new flagship of the anti-Syndicate task force. She and Hood come out of Utopia Planitia in 2312Q2, and the Andorians will be wrapping up work on their sister Republic at the same time.

Meanwhile, Korolev and another, unnamed ConnieBee will be leaving San Francisco later in the year. The Vulcans turn out a pair of Constitution-Bs next year, the Tellarites will finish one the year after that, and if the plan I'm voting for wins, the Andorians will complete the ninth and final Starfleet Constitution-B some time in 2315.

At the moment, NAME2 and NAME3 are us voting on the names of the Constitution-Bs being worked on by the Vulcan shipyard. Defiant appears to be the overwhelming front-runner for NAME2, but there's disagreement over NAME3, especially since a lot of people voted Intrepid, but there is already a ship by that name in Starfleet service.

Lexington was a valid Connie name.

Still, I'm open to suggestions. USS Everest?
Just to be clear, NAME1 is a vote on the name of the 2313 Excelsior, not on a Constitution-B. There's at least one Constitution-B coming out this year that doesn't have an assigned name, but I don't think Oneiros put that up to a vote.

*shakes fist at the universe*

Also, didn't we get pp when we named the 2nd Miracht?
That was right after the biophage crisis, and the first Miracht died a particularly ghastly death. The loss of the explorer Miracht to a random planetary survey mission gone wrong isn't going to have quite the same impact, so replacing it probably won't either.

Personally I'm with the crowd that want to wait and name the second Ambassador-class explorer Miracht.
 
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[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Huascar
 
SWB, the problem is that the separate design thread has caused us to be so... insulated... from the design process that people who aren't actively involved in design don't even know basic things about the process. A lot of people are working on the basis of information or assumptions that may well be a month or two out of date.

A certain amount of confusion is an inevitable result of this process. And frankly, trying to cram all the expression of that confusion back into the SDB thread isn't going to solve the problem, because of the large number of people who either don't read that thread, or who simply aren't going to be able to figure out enough of the details to get fully up to speed in the time available.

There's no information to give on the process right now. I could tell you all sorts of things about the SDB process right now that would be utterly false literally tomorrow. I made an Ambassador-statted 1.5mt Cruiser the other week. It meant nothing overall, because I had already brought up the issues that caused it. I'm going to go in there this afternoon and snap my copy in half again so that Oneiros fixes it. AlphaDelta's comment on not being able to make an Excelsior should never have left the design thread, because the parts used had nothing to do with the Excelsior design. They were Renaissance parts, not explorer parts. All it did was cause confusion here, as you yourself evidence.

To put it simply, the sheet is not ready to be explained to the layman yet. It just isn't.
 
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There's no information to give on the process right now. I could tell you all sorts of things about the SDB process right now that would be utterly false literally tomorrow. I made an Ambassador-statted 1.5mt Cruiser the other week. It meant nothing overall, because I had already brought up the issues that caused it. I'm going to go in there this afternoon and snap my copy in half again so that Oneiros fixes it. AlphaDelta's comment on not being able to make an Excelsior should never have left the design thread, because the parts used had nothing to do with the Excelsior design. They were Renaissance parts, not explorer parts. All it did was cause confusion here, as you yourself evidence.

To put it simply, the sheet is not ready to be explained to the layman yet. It just isn't.
Okay, but the problem is that we're back to our normal rate of game progress, which means that the time at which we wanted to start work on the Ambassador prototype is probably no more than a week or two away.

If the sheet is still massively in flux (or massively buggy) at that time, it's going to cause problems, and we may be stuck with yet another case where Oneiros is forced to say "to heck with it" and give us the canon statline because yet another iteration of the custom sheet wasn't adequately calibrated and ready for prime time when we needed it.
 
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Oh no, you hit me with some #Only90'sKidsWillRemember Nostalgia

*tearing up* It Is Shaped Like A Friend

changed vote to Pathfinder

EDIT: okay technically that's Sojourner but close enough
 
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That was before Oneiros decided to completely revamp the custom ship design process. Fortunately, it seems as though maybe this was a false alarm, but you see why there's an issue.
@Yeangst
Combat 8 looks a bit out of reach. It's possible, but I'd rather not compromise the other stats.

[X][BUILD] 1 Connie-B, 2 Miranda-A, 2 Excelsior, 2 Centaur-A
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] Pathfinder
[X][NAME2] Defiant
[X][NAME3] Valiant
 
Okay, but the problem is that we're back to our normal rate of game progress, which means that the time at which we wanted to start work on the Ambassador prototype is probably no more than a week or two away.

If the sheet is still massively in flux (or massively buggy) at that time, it's going to cause problems, and we may be stuck with yet another case where Oneiros is forced to say "to heck with it" and give us the canon statline because yet another iteration of the custom sheet wasn't adequately calibrated and ready for prime time when we needed it.
It appears to be fine now.
 
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