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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Looks like we got stuff in the gear tab of the Vault now!

soulcake said:
Snorri's personal equipment and gear he uses.

[Armor] War Plate. [Master Rune of Gromril, Rune of Fortitude, Rune of Impact.] Forged in joy, tempered in grief, worn in battle.
[Weapon] Rune hammer. [Master Rune of Conduction, Rune of Fire, Rune of Striking] Good for hitting, good from crushing.
[Weapon] Rune axe. [Rune of Cleaving, Rune of Daemon Slaying, Rune of Fury.]Good for cutting, for slicing.
[Talisman] Ruby and Diamond Amulet. [Combo: Conversion.] No magic shall harm me, girded in her gifts.
[Banner] Ruby Cloak. [Combo: Daemonward.] Deep red silk, edged with purest down. A reminder of brighter, warmer days. Later engraved in grief. A patch on it, that to a normal dwarf is invisible but is clearly visible to you marrs its beauty. The fine edges still stand sturdy, but for who knows how long.
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kitsune9 said:
A Gronti can't use the master ruins of disguise or passage because it needs to use the master rune of movement which means a golem would remove most of the reckoner's stealth advantages and give no real movement advantages. A stealthy war machine doesn't help if it needs to be moved by something more obvious that can be tracked. If you wanted to create a stealth force then you should probably not rely so much on golems, rangers can be given those master runes and use them as needed plus being smaller targets and ruins of sound and reflection.
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The weapon has the Master Rune, and we can give it a Talisman with Master Rune of Passage and/or the runes of concealmente we use in our cloaks.
 
[Weapon] Rune hammer. [Master Rune of Conduction, Rune of Fire, Rune of Striking] Good for hitting, good from crushing.
[Weapon] Rune axe. [Rune of Cleaving, Rune of Daemon Slaying, Rune of Fury.]Good for cutting, for slicing.
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These either have lots of sentimental value or none whatsoever.

Either way, I still want better stuff.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Hm, if the Rune of Preservation works by keeping the armor structurally sound, while I'd say that's a great rune for any armor to avoid HKB, when the suit is already made of Adamant I'm not sure if there's a point in making the unbreakable even more so.
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Even adamant armour is going to have weak spots. Plate armour isn't a single continuous piece of metal- it has gaps in it for joints so the wearer can move and actually put it on (generally covered by chainmail, either as part of the armour or an undersuit), and ties and straps to hold the different pieces together. The adamant wouldn't benefit much from the rune of preservation, but other parts of the armour could.
 
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I'm somewhat alarmed that the cloak representing fond memories is being called out as an item likely to be lost or destroyed.
 
Harried said:
I'm somewhat alarmed that the cloak representing fond memories is being called out as an item likely to be lost or destroyed.
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This is why folks have been suggesting that it might be good to put it somewhere for safekeeping and make a replacement banner cloak for the purposes of fighting/defending Kraka Drakk specifically. Or just, in general making a new cloak/banner.
 
BungieONI said:
This is why folks have been suggesting that it might be good to put it somewhere for safekeeping and make a replacement banner cloak for the purposes of fighting/defending Kraka Drakk specifically. Or just, in general making a new cloak/banner.
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I mean, while it's probably better than having it be destroyed in traumatic circumstances, the idea of taking the precious reminder of times past and putting it behind glass to preserve it would still be a bit of a gut punch.
 
Harried said:
I'm somewhat alarmed that the cloak representing fond memories is being called out as an item likely to be lost or destroyed.
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Note the patch on it.
soulcake said:
[Banner] Ruby Cloak. Deep red silk, edged with purest down. A reminder of brighter, warmer days. Later engraved in grief. [Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Sanctuary, Rune of Determination. Combo: Daemonward. You will not run, you will not hide, you will not fail again.]
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Originally, it was in pristine condition.
soulcake said:
Its arms find no purchase in your armour, slipping off gracelessly. It grabs at the cloak, but the fabric simply tears in its claws. It grasps at your helmet, but it simply flies off your head as the beast falls to its doom.
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Greedy One tore into it.

Next fight? It may well be torn beyond repair.
 
Sir_Travelsalot said:
This is Warhammer. Anything presented as unambiguously good is almost certainly doomed to be ruined.
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That's 40k more than Fantasy, given that Fantasy is more Noblebright than Grimdark (when GW isn't screwing its own stupid ideas)


Harried said:
I mean, while it's probably better than having it be destroyed in traumatic circumstances, the idea of taking the precious reminder of times past and putting it behind glass to preserve it would still be a bit of a gut punch.
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It would be yeah.
 
BungieONI said:
That's 40k more than Fantasy, given that Fantasy is more Noblebright than Grimdark (when GW isn't screwing its own stupid ideas)



It would be yeah.
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Maybe we could stop using it for combat, but start wearing it at other times? Give it some use as formal wear, or something?
 
I find the idea of worrying about how well protected the armor joints are is a bit too far on the micromanaging side of things. However, one possible solution is learning how to make Gromril chainmail. I think we unlocked some side research that could do that based on the talisman Grungi gave Snorri.
 
kitsune9 said:
I mean your trying for something stealthy that can lead to sneak attacks and solo enemy commanders well carrying a siege weapon. That's going to be rather hard and Ruins can only do so much.
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That's the thing tho: we have a Rune to make siege engines invisible. The Reckoner has it.

The idea is a lightweight, but no less durable golem that can go damn near anywhere and carry the invisible siege engine.

Give it a couple axes for maximum DPS when in melee, and it becomes our Ranger Golem.

I think we could do Master Rune of Passage + Concealment + Lightfoot on a talisman to let it go around inconspicuously.

Might add more stealth in its armor, too.
 
Master Rune of GrimMir seems like one of the best Master banner runes. Would help us pick up the slack in our fighting skills, too.

Not that you'd know there was a slack when we dueled a small daemon army and the Greedy One at the same time.
 
I'd really prefer if when we create our upgraded loadout we have a dedicated anti demon weapon, either in the form of one of our hand weapons, or a third weapon we can swap for that's hyper specialized for it.
 
Harried said:
I'd really prefer if when we create our upgraded loadout we have a dedicated anti demon weapon, either in the form of one of our hand weapons, or a third weapon we can swap for that's hyper specialized for it.
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I think that preference is definitely common. At the moment the runes we have that are most spec'ed for it is probably just the Rune of Daemonslaying, though others may assist in the more mechanical effort of actually murdering one like the Master Rune of Grimnir or Rune of Might. Researching the Master Rune of Purification and making a Weapon Rune equivalent is a very solid alternative.

If we did have a Weapon version of the Master Rune of Purification, a theoretical set up for a weapon to absolutely murder demons with could be Master Rune of Purification, Rune of Daemonslaying, Rune of Grimnir. Specifically Grimnir is included here because of soulcake's description of what the Rune of Grimnir does to weapons, making them sharper, better at killing etc etc.

I wonder if there is a simple Rune of Killing. @soulcake, is there a Rune which is solely about describing and enhancing the action of killing?
 
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BungieONI said:
I wonder if there is a simple Rune of Killing. @soulcake, is there a Rune which is solely about describing and enhancing the action of killing?
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Rune of Grimnir. Like, Grimnir and Killing are so entwined with each other that a Rune of Grimnir is basically that. Dwarfs can specify what parts of the killing get enhanced, the speed, the confirmation, the power but like...Killing is Grimnir is Killing.
 
soulcake said:
Rune of Grimnir. Like, Grimnir and Killing are so entwined with each other that a Rune of Grimnir is basically that. Dwarfs can specify what parts of the killing get enhanced, the speed, the confirmation, the power but like...Killing is Grimnir is Killing.
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Gotchaaaaaaaa! Thank you!
 
A bold band crossing the treacherous slopes, three lead and a fourth guards the rear.
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Could be either Gazul or Grimnir. Grimnir is capable of handling the rear on his own, on the other hand he's the valiant that strode ever forward, and Gazul tended towards the quieter society.
 
soulcake said:
Rune of Grimnir. Like, Grimnir and Killing are so entwined with each other that a Rune of Grimnir is basically that. Dwarfs can specify what parts of the killing get enhanced, the speed, the confirmation, the power but like...Killing is Grimnir is Killing.
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Do the other ancestors and their runes have concepts similarly deeply entwined to them?
 
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