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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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CuttleFish2.0 said:
The Miner wasn't shaped in Grungni's image after all so it would be weird to shape what is explicitly supposed to be it's 'brother' in the image of an Ancestor God. The Warrior doesn't seem so much to be about honoring Grimnir as taking inspiration from seeing him at war and building something off those insights.
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Grimnir is to Warriors what Grugni is to Miners (and Artisans). Naming the two Gronti the Miner and the Warrior is very much a hat tip to Grugni and Grimnir

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CuttleFish2.0 said:
@IronFist was specifically talking about the Warrior though. Unless they were talking about some other plan I haven't seen, but then it really should be called something else to avoid confusing it with the things that's literally already an option.
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I don't mind powering the Warrior with the Greedy Heart. A Gronti that goes on forever, like Grimnir at the gates
 
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I do want Snorri to make a Grimnir themed banner, whether it'll be for the Gronti or not, but one aimed at his final message rather than killyness. Maybe give it to the soon te be Slayers or something.

Master Rune of Grimnir + Rune of Determination + Rune of Stoicism

It think @BungieONI had a plan for something along these lines.

Grimnir
soulcake said:
The Master Rune imbues Valiant Grimnir's endurance, will and martial prowess to all under its aegis, turning even Beardlings into warriors as skilled as a Longbeard.
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Determination
Even in the most hopeless struggle, it is not within the heart of a Dwarf to concede defeat. This rune magnifies that spirit when it is most severely tested.
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Stoicism
This rune reminds every Dwarf that, though their numbers are diminished, each one of them carries the legacy of his ancestors, and thus is never alone.
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IronFist said:
Grimnir is to Warriors what Grugni is to Miners (and Artisans). Naming the two Gronti the Miner and the Warrior is very much a hat tip to Grugni and Grimnir
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Sure...? But allusions are not the same thing as literally carved in the image of. And specifically my notion was about honoring Grimnir in the moment of his choice and sacrifice, not generally.
 
I don't mind crafting the Warrior (the T3/4 variant of the gronti) but I think Snorri is far off yet from building his golem magnum opus that would be a T5...
 
Horium said:
I don't mind crafting the Warrior (the T3/4 variant of the gronti) but I think Snorri is far off yet from building his golem magnum opus that would be a T5...
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I know it's a pipe dream, but I'd really like to see what combining multiple T5 ingredients into a set for the gronti and its equipment would look like. The Heart for the body, a piece of Kholek for the armour, T5 refined gromril with the Master Rune of Purification for the weapon, etc

But then again, I also want to try and improve adamant smelting efficiency* and then leave the smelters humming in the background for a couple of centuries so we can make a solid adamant gronti after completing the Movement of Things and Mind of Things research chains.

*Edit: although that partially depends on whether we can visit the battlefield we just learned about and harvest it for voidstone.
 
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Would a gronti be capable of benefiting from the Rune of Grimnir improving peoples fighting ability?
It got mentioned before that its not clear to what extent the effects of this sort of Rune is a placebo.
 
soulcake said:
THE MATH IS WRONG. THE NUMBERS MASON, THE NUMBERS DONT WORK!

I have to fix things. Dont worry about it.
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Math is great as long as it does what you want it to do, but eventually, always, it stops doing what you want it to, and then it becomes a monstrosity of callous disregard. Beware the maths, for they are a finicky thing.
 
I just edited a line in the last update. Brynna was made a Runelord in the Rhunkalbrogg before you left for the north instead of the same time as you. It wouldn't have worked with the old version because she'd be barely past her 1st century if that was the case.

Already retconning like GW, that's how I know I've made it into the big leagues. 8^)
 
Dark as Silver said:
Would a gronti be capable of benefiting from the Rune of Grimnir improving peoples fighting ability?
It got mentioned before that its not clear to what extent the effects of this sort of Rune is a placebo.
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That's one reason why I'd like to complete the Mind of Things research chain before we build the super-gronti, so that it's more likely to have the kind of mind susceptible to such effects.

I think one proposal was Master Rune of Waking, Rune of Grimnir, and Rune of Fortitude, as the last of these is believed to give rise to sapience. I'm interested whether the research chain will engage with that, and/or whether we can develop specialist runes based on that.

It's a shame we'll have to research the Movement of Things and the Mind of Things the long way.
 
Alratan said:
That's one reason why I'd like to complete the Mind of Things research chain before we build the super-gronti, so that it's more likely to have the kind of mind susceptible to such effects.

I think one proposal was Master Rune of Waking, Rune of Grimnir, and Rune of Fortitude, as the last of these is believed to give rise to sapience. I'm interested whether the research chain will engage with that, and/or whether we can develop specialist runes based on that.

It's a shame we'll have to research the Movement of Things and the Mind of Things the long way.
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I feel like adding the Rune of Sentience, and the Rune of walking gives us very little room to do more for this Gronti.
 
Dark as Silver said:
I feel like adding the Rune of Sentience, and the Rune of walking gives us very little room to do more for this Gronti.
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The Movement of Things research we've done so far improved the (Master) Rune of Waking. Also, Rune of Walking? Do you mean Waking?

I think the plan for the super-gronti is to make it part of a set of items. If we create something like a Master Rune of Sapience, we could apply it to a crown the gronti wears, for example.
 
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