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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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ConfusedCanuck said:
Soooo is there going to be an option to tell the Burudin that Snorri solved Durins consternation or is it just going to be revealed next time he meets one of them in person?
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Man, when you take into account everything Snorri has done for Dwarf kind in this quest and all the improvements compared to the original timeline can't help but think that his back must be awfully sore from how much he has been carrying the Dwarven race. Like if he ended up in the original timeline and managed to see how things turned out by the end times seems like he would be furious. Only half joking here, as in seems like he would be genuinely angry at how much he has been carrying his people from his timeline because he genuinely expected more of them to not need one single dwarf like him to do everything he has done.

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Snorri hearing from a original timeline dwarf about how much knowledge was lost in the OTL

Snorri: "Excuse me, you lost how much Dwarven knowledge!?"
 
BungieONI said:
I gotchu fam, as the original designer.

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Treasure Hoard of Magic, "Azgul-a-Zhuf", Heart Talisman. 9 Adamant Bars. Master Rune of Thungni's Presence (Adamant + T4 Ancient Greedy Troll Heart) + Ancestor Thungni (T4 Ancient Greedy Troll's Blood, to use Blood reagents gather and transfer function) + Talismanic Siphoning (T4 Ancient Greedy Troll Heart). The Intent of this item is to make it a power source for the dragon, allowing it to absorb the winds and spells around it to fuel itself. The theme is "The beast greedily consumes the world's magic, pulling the Deep and the Winds into its heart, where all of it is remade into fuel for its runes." (Master Rune of Thungni is an alternative, but we need to study it. Another is Master Rune of Deep Gate + Guzazi Zhuf (Greedy Blood) + Thungni (Greedy Blood))

Certain Cut, "Anhakkit", Left Claw Weapon. 3 Adamant Bars. Currents (T4 Storm Dragon Brain) + Cleaving (T4 Cockatrice's Eye) + Might (T4 Lightning aligned upgrade to Stonehorn Horns). The theme is "An ancient mind made cunning in stormy skies wields monstrous strength in unerring blows of terrifying speed which can pierce even the thickest armor."

Swift Wind, "Alazilfin". Wing Talisman. 3 Adamant Bars. Talismanic Master Rune of Featherweight (T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Wing Tendons) + Speed (T3 Pegasus Heart) + Rune of Breezes (T4 Great Eagle's Feather). Theme: "As masters of the Air, Storm Wyrms soar with it as their servant, using their magic to deny gravity's hold and fly faster than the storm winds."

Thunder of Doom, "Dronadum", Armor (not a set piece). The Breath Weapon. 3 Adamant Bars. The Master Rune of Zon-Dum (T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Gas Sac and T4 Sidereal Sapphire). Lonely Rune, Bearer can unleash an incredible blast of lightning through a crystal embedded in the plate.

Death Thunder, "Uzkuldron," Armor. 3 Bars. Combo, Storm Mantle; Master Rune of Grungni (T4 Barazgal) + Fury (T4 Sky King Feather or T3 Griffon Feather) + Lightning (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart). The theme here is "The armor of the beast shall mantle itself in the Storm, snapping out to destroy any gnats that have the temerity to approach." Alternate, Master Rune of Thunderstorms (Barazgal + Elder Storm Wyrm Blood) + Terror (Elder Shard Wyrm Blood) + Bang (Elder Storm Wyrm Gas Sac)

A Might Sky Blow, "Drengskarraz", Horns Talisman. 3 Adamant Bars. Combo Relentless Pursuit: Master Rune of Wandering (T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Heart) + Rune of Impact (T3 Dragon Ogre Blood) + Rune of Grimnir (T2 Grimnirzan). The theme is "Like a Storm Dragon's stooping dive from on high towards the most vulnerable targets, it lunges for its prey with claws extended and crackling with lightning."


All this is getting made in steps later on - thru turn 61 to 65 prolly.
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That's certainly a stacked as hell lineup.
 
BungieONI said:
I gotchu fam, as the original designer.

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Treasure Hoard of Magic, "Azgul-a-Zhuf", Heart Talisman. 9 Adamant Bars. Master Rune of Thungni's Presence (Adamant + T4 Ancient Greedy Troll Heart) + Ancestor Thungni (T4 Ancient Greedy Troll's Blood, to use Blood reagents gather and transfer function) + Talismanic Siphoning (T4 Ancient Greedy Troll Heart). The Intent of this item is to make it a power source for the dragon, allowing it to absorb the winds and spells around it to fuel itself. The theme is "The beast greedily consumes the world's magic, pulling the Deep and the Winds into its heart, where all of it is remade into fuel for its runes." (Master Rune of Thungni is an alternative, but we need to study it. Another is Master Rune of Deep Gate + Guzazi Zhuf (Greedy Blood) + Thungni (Greedy Blood))

Certain Cut, "Anhakkit", Left Claw Weapon. 3 Adamant Bars. Currents (T4 Storm Dragon Brain) + Cleaving (T4 Cockatrice's Eye) + Might (T4 Lightning aligned upgrade to Stonehorn Horns). The theme is "An ancient mind made cunning in stormy skies wields monstrous strength in unerring blows of terrifying speed which can pierce even the thickest armor."

Swift Wind, "Alazilfin". Wing Talisman. 3 Adamant Bars. Talismanic Master Rune of Featherweight (T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Wing Tendons) + Speed (T3 Pegasus Heart) + Rune of Breezes (T4 Great Eagle's Feather). Theme: "As masters of the Air, Storm Wyrms soar with it as their servant, using their magic to deny gravity's hold and fly faster than the storm winds."

Thunder of Doom, "Dronadum", Armor (not a set piece). The Breath Weapon. 3 Adamant Bars. The Master Rune of Zon-Dum (T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Gas Sac and T4 Sidereal Sapphire). Lonely Rune, Bearer can unleash an incredible blast of lightning through a crystal embedded in the plate.

Death Thunder, "Uzkuldron," Armor. 3 Bars. Combo, Storm Mantle; Master Rune of Grungni (T4 Barazgal) + Fury (T4 Sky King Feather or T3 Griffon Feather) + Lightning (T4 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth Heart). The theme here is "The armor of the beast shall mantle itself in the Storm, snapping out to destroy any gnats that have the temerity to approach." Alternate, Master Rune of Thunderstorms (Barazgal + Elder Storm Wyrm Blood) + Terror (Elder Shard Wyrm Blood) + Bang (Elder Storm Wyrm Gas Sac)

A Might Sky Blow, "Drengskarraz", Horns Talisman. 3 Adamant Bars. Combo Relentless Pursuit: Master Rune of Wandering (T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Heart) + Rune of Impact (T3 Dragon Ogre Blood) + Rune of Grimnir (T2 Grimnirzan). The theme is "Like a Storm Dragon's stooping dive from on high towards the most vulnerable targets, it lunges for its prey with claws extended and crackling with lightning."


All this is getting made in steps later on - thru turn 61 to 65 prolly.
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The lack of right claw weapon is intended?
 
Khaos said:
The lack of right claw weapon is intended?
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Yeah it is. FOr set purposes only five of the pieces will count (see the FAQ info threadmark), and tbh I've spent awhile working on the designs for these things - I don't want to feature creep to add a weapon on the right claw, and I don't want to add something that won't add into the Set.
 
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Small updated. Included Windsight reductions to most of the research options. Anything that was updated and is new already had it included in the calc.
 
idea, true death of daemons leave behind void stones right? so if we see it happening would it give us the hint we need to make rune of daemon killing?
 
I had the idea of forging a bunch of surge protector pillars for the waystones in fueebdky territory to prevent malekith's plans fron having consequences in the rest of norsca. Surge Protector, Stabilization, Warding/Purification/something?
 
Mr. Idiot said:
I had the idea of forging a bunch of surge protector pillars for the waystones in fueebdky territory to prevent malekith's plans fron having consequences in the rest of norsca. Surge Protector, Stabilization, Warding/Purification/something?
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or just a really big fuse breaker meant to channel it all into it causing it to purposely explode and redirect the energy into the sky?
 
So, a couple of questions so I can gauge the intentions of the thread.

First, the plan is to drop the Windsight Reveal at the next Grand Enclave, yeah? Will the Windsight Rune and associated Rune Combo also be distributed at that time? And what is the plan regarding the research we've already done?

Second, what is the plan regarding Dwarf Hogwarts? Every time I think of it, I think it's almost purpose built to be an acceptable place for mass-research of the inner mechanics of runecrafting via Windsight runes. It's safe enough to store said knowledge, to conduct said knowledge, and the sharing of said knowledge between different researchers is actively encouraged. If there was anywhere for the greater Runesmith's Guild to consider an acceptable spot for such a research project (and boy howdy, it's definitely a bit beyond what just Snorri can manage) it'd be there. But is that the plan? Or does the thread intend to just wing it?
 
I thought the plan was to drop windsight reveal on Alric (and your apprentices) only and maybe the Burudin later and only tell everyone else once it doesn't require maiming yourself.
 
soulcake said:
[ ] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery Pt. 1: [Cost: (10 -9) =1 actions] Master of the Odd will proc. You can use the stones now, but not safely. Yorri tells you they never will be a safe bet, but you can at least try to make it safer. Besides, you still dont know how they work, and your work requires that you know how they work. So by Grungni, you're going to figure it out.
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@soulcake

Given our upgraded Windsight, what is the current chance that we cause a demonic incursion free loot to appear Something Bad™️ if we tap a Monolith during the forging of an item?
 
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steampvnc1880 said:
I thought the plan was to drop windsight reveal on Alric (and your apprentices) only and maybe the Burudin later and only tell everyone else once it doesn't require maiming yourself.
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This stuff is why I'm asking. And, I get it, a lot of dwarfs would maim themselves in pursuit of knowledge of this magnitude, so it's better not to give them the chance.
 
Silver719 said:
This stuff is why I'm asking. And, I get it, a lot of dwarfs would maim themselves in pursuit of knowledge of this magnitude, so it's better not to give them the chance.
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Personally I think it depends on how fast we're planning on doing windsight part 2 and if it actually unlocks windsight without having to maim yourself or just starts us down the chain to do it. If we're planning on doing it soonish we may just keep it to Yorri and the apprentices until then.
 
steampvnc1880 said:
I thought the plan was to drop windsight reveal on Alric (and your apprentices) only and maybe the Burudin later and only tell everyone else once it doesn't require maiming yourself.
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That was the general idea as I understood it, however-

There's no option to do anything like that and it seems Snorri is not willing to release it to anyone except Karstah and Yorri until we do ESP pt 2. So my thought at this point is do ESP pt 2, release it to Alric, trusted Runelords here in Drakk, and the Burudin + Brotherhood of Dron.

That way its across multiple lineages and will also have multiple sources to teach from so we stem the absolute Giga Tide of runesmiths that'd choke Khazagar like a pelican trying to eat a baby seal once we release it publicly. We really really need other teachers for it before we release it publicly.
 
Couple research tasks have been brought down to one or two actions to complete for those making plans.

Also:
[ ] [Simple] Mysterious Mystery Sword: [Cost: (9 -5) =4 actions] Master of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. Gain ???, possibly progress to Mysterious Mystery Cauldron and Mysterious Mystery Barrel. A sword that cuts through Gromril with an unnerving amount of ease. Studying it will be more about trying to recreate what it does through a Rune, but a bit of material study isn't off the table either given that you have two broken ones to work with as well.

This is something we can do to try and make progress on the Rune Metal.
 
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Oh, important thing I realized.

[] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)
-[] Snorri & Karstah
--[] [Simple] Build Brynbar pt 2 (2 Karstah) This is for her own use.
--[] Khazagar (2 Karstah) Generates 3 Khazagar actions, any left over remain to be used later.
---[] Change Curriculum: Switch Prosthetics with Dum-Denial. 1 Khaz.
---[] Learning Rune of Spellburning. 2 Khaz + T2 White Lion's Heart.
--[] [Simple] Once more with Smelting #2 (1 Snorri + 3 KKR) Wear BA/Skarren
--[] [Simple] The Brotherhood Calls (1 Snorri + 3 KKR)
--[] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery pt 1 (1 Snorri)
--[] [Difficult] Examine KKR (1 Snorri)
--[] [Difficult] Skaudardrengi pt 2 (1 Snorri + 2 KKR) This does not finish the Dragon. This is prep for turn 60 and is meant to develop the Rune we chose by Going All Out.
--[] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2 (1 Snorri)
-[] Retainers & Orders
--[] Expedition, Grom [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[] Training Regime Pt. 2 [3 Retainer]
--[] Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Gas Sac
--[] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Wing Tendons [-15 Far North Favor]
--[] Royal Authority Order: T4 Great Eagle Feather [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Heart [-15 Far North Favor]

@ConfusedCanuck we can Start Anoqeyan now, which sets it up to be completed by three AP on turn 61. Which is very convenient for us.
 
It very much sounds like the storms coming so this turn is all about Skaud prep. Next turn we forge. It's a shame we can't do the rune research but we can hit it and anoqeyan after Skaud's done.

Also damn, akazit is only 3ap, we can bang that out with simple ap procs if it goes into the odd materials easy.
 
hugo239111 said:
Just for the record, I think we tell the brotherhood about solving Durin's consternation. Let the one who is soon to pass tell his ancestors that a path may be found?
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Just for the record, the dying Elder is a part of the Burudin, not the Brotherhood of Dron.

Edit: Me copying the start of your post ("Just for the record") was a complete accident or subconscious. It was not meant mockingly, just want to make sure that's clear.
 
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To celebrate finally rolling Artoria Lancer:

Master Rune of the Light Defiant (Structural/Weapon): A strange, strange Rune, resplendent light gathers along a tower, within the structure, and at the command of bearer unleash itself in a sizzling ray of bright golden light in a wave that could blast apart an army. Beyond, of course, the brilliantly-hued, sun-fierce pillar of light that drops with all the force of a god, it is a rebuke to all evils, and further reinforces the wall between the aethyr and reality.
-A weapon form also exists, similar in effect but much, much, much lesser in scope: Where the structural form can unmake an army, the weapon form peaks at a unit.

-Yet more work of that strong, brilliant woman, Barra Vanyasdottir, and her attempts to reinforce the Karaz Ankor against all evils that might beset it, both mundane or mystical. She was influenced by the fey in making it.

#On Attack, #Enchantment, #Offensive, #Magical, #AOE, #Odd, #Lonely

(#Downright Bizarre :V)

Rune of the Scorching Resplendence: A distinct derivation of the Rune of Fire, furnace-fire surrounds the head of the weapon and a tongue of fire can be spit in a broad but short area around the weapon, shorter than the same effect from the Rune of Fire. In return however, it burns particularly potently at the servants of Nurgle, cleaning their taint outright in some cases.

-The work of Morek Hopebearer, student of Vragni Silverbrand.

#Enchantment, #Constant, #Offensive, #Elemental, #Grudge

(Master?) Rune of Satisfaction: A strange Rune, in seeming counterplay to the Runesmiths' ethos, born of trauma: enchanted objects struck by this are more vulnerable the more perfect, the more flawless, the more obsessive their construction. The more potent the craft, the more the Rune can denigrate, deride, degrade and destroy, given time.

-The work of Kazrik Pleasurebane, in defiance against the smiths and enchanters and artisans of Slaanesh: 10,000 hours of their work turned to ash and dust. They say it has an especial hatred for the craft of Slaanesh's slaves, as well. "Obsessive-compulsive perfectionists, artisans with their heads shoved firmly up their own--no, Silverbearer, that doesn't remind me of anybody else I know."

#Constant, #Curse, #Offensive, #Magical, #Grudge

#Rune-Ideas
 
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I have a slightly alternative plan to bungie, wherin instead of doing anoqeyan and KKR, we compress Deep gate and simplify it so it is available to build the heart of Skaud right after Skaud itself. Additionally, instead of Karstah doing Khaz stuff, instead she finally studies the Albion sword. She has the same traits as Snorri so it'll finish in 2ap for her as well.

[] Plan: Skaud Prep, DEEP GATE, and a sword. (Turn 59)
-[] Snorri & Karstah
--[] [Simple] Build Brynbar pt 2 (2 Karstah) This is for her own use.
--[] [Simple] Mysterious Mystery Sword (2 Karstah)
--[] [Simple] Once more with Smelting #2 (1 Snorri + 3 KKR) Wear BA/Skarren
--[] [Simple] The Brotherhood Calls (1 Snorri + 3 KKR)
--[] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery pt 1 (1 Snorri)
--[] [Difficult] Skaudardrengi pt 2 (1 Snorri + 2 KKR) This does not finish the Dragon. This is prep for turn 60 and is meant to develop the Rune we chose by Going All Out.
--[] [Difficult] Compress Deep Gate (2 Snorri) overflow into simplifying
-[] Retainers & Orders
--[] Expedition, Grom [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[] Training Regime Pt. 2 [3 Retainer]
--[] Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Gas Sac
--[] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Wing Tendons [-15 Far North Favor]
--[] Royal Authority Order: T4 Great Eagle Feather [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Heart [-15 Far North Favor]
 
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