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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Pempelune said:
I would really like to do Understand a Master Rune on the Master Rune of Purification one day. Both because it's bound to help us with T5 Gromril and the Prismatic Dragon Blood, and also because a Weapon version sounds like it would be killer on Chaos enemies (purify while heating violently: could it be be any better?).
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Tbh, I think the the Heat is just a side effect of whatever is going on with the gromril. Purification is exothermic, apparently.
With the second iteration of our smelter, there was more sound and light, instead of just heat.

It could be that the Master Rune of Purification is part of the combo that becomes the Master Rune of Unbinding, which makes demons test for instability if they take even one hit.
 
LaggPlaguedDuke said:
I wonder if we could make an alchemy equivalent to Makestrike using MPurification or some other alchemy rune that we eventually discover. Something that can be used to blast things apart or wack material and purify or alter it as needed. That might be an interesting capstone weapon to make using the t5 rune metal and everything we learn from alchemy.
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We can try compressing the Adamant-Maker combo at some point, and we probably should.
 
Alratan said:
An anti-chaos weapon should really be a sword from what we've seen, as swords are the dwarven tool for killing things.

And we've seen Gazul in action.
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Ah, but there's Grimnir.

Doing Grimnir things, with axes. In fact, in most Gotrek & Felix lore it was axes which the Rune meant to harm Chaos was put on.

And bluntly, I don't want to make Snorri a freaking sword.
 
BungieONI said:
Ah, but there's Grimnir.

Doing Grimnir things, with axes. In fact, in most Gotrek & Felix lore it was axes which the Rune meant to harm Chaos was put on.

And bluntly, I don't want to make Snorri a freaking sword.
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And I don't want to make him an axe. Lots of dwarves have axes. Very few have seen Gazul execute the shard of a god with a sword and so might be inspired to use them and so spread their use more broadly.
 
Alratan said:
And I don't want to make him an axe. Lots of dwarves have axes. Very few have seen Gazul execute the shard of a god with a sword and so might be inspired to use them and so spread their use more broadly.
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I don't see the point in spreading them more broadly. They're doing just fine with axes and hammers.

And the important thing to note is that an axe or sword are aesthetic choices, and it does not make it more killy if we put the true kill rune on a sword.
 
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Then we shall make Snorri ... a KUSARIGAMA!

It started out as a joke, but coming to think of it... that is kind of the offspring of a Sword and an Axe on a chain (for extra uniqueness)

Edit: the more i think about it the more it makes Sense... Yorri's lineage are after all part Ninjas :V
Edit 2: Pocket Gravel shuriken... (why, brain, why?)
 
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Jreengus said:
Do we know what the odds are like for rolling a combo? I feel like there's a lot of suggestions are likely to givie a combo and I really don't like the idea of giving that up for a roll of unknown chances.
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No, we don't know any of the probabilities involved, nor are we likely to learn them. The thread's gone for it four times so far and all four have resulted in a combo, but plural of anecdote, etc. Also, it should perhaps be said that the best of those four works, Snorri's hammer, was preceded by the thread collectively putting a lot of effort into discussing exactly what sort of runes might be involved in a "craftsmanship hammer", putting forward specific suggestions for arrays and so on, and people went for a theme more because of the difficulty narrowing down exactly which of a few similar concepts to go for rather than because anyone particularly wanted to substitute Snorri's judgement for their own. Did that influence how generous soulcake was, when he decided to give the hammer one of the better combos we've found? Who can say.
 
bird yells said:
No, we don't know any of the probabilities involved, nor are we likely to learn them. The thread's gone for it four times so far and all four have resulted in a combo, but plural of anecdote, etc. Also, it should perhaps be said that the best of those four works, Snorri's hammer, was preceded by the thread collectively putting a lot of effort into discussing exactly what sort of runes might be involved in a "craftsmanship hammer", putting forward specific suggestions for arrays and so on, and people went for a theme more because of the difficulty narrowing down exactly which of a few similar concepts to go for rather than because anyone particularly wanted to substitute Snorri's judgement for their own. Did that influence how generous soulcake was, when he decided to give the hammer one of the better combos we've found? Who can say.
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Huh, I entirely forgot that Zharrgal was a theme option. Regardless, we get a bonus to the roll when going for a theme, and its frankly easier to do more esoteric stuff via a theme. Its kind of hit or miss and pure luck otherwise.
 
We can have two one-handed weapons and one great weapon at the same time yes? Why don't we make an axe to complement our hammer and then a sword for our great weapon when things really, really have to die permanently? Put Daemon Slaying, and Purification (not sure which should be the master rune), and... Cutting (maybe Grudge?) or something on it. And make it out of the tier 5 gromril when we finally start making some.
 
Nianque said:
We can have two one-handed weapons and one great weapon at the same time yes? Why don't we make an axe to complement our hammer and then a sword for our great weapon when things really, really have to die permanently? Put Daemon Slaying, and Purification (not sure which should be the master rune), and... Cutting (maybe Grudge?) or something on it. And make it out of the tier 5 gromril when we finally start making some.
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If we have two weapons and a great weapon, we can only benefit from the runes of either the great weapon or the two single handed weapons at a time. They take up the same Rune Equipment "slots".

I'd want to give such a weapon to the Order of the Watchers as well, because aside from the aesthetics of a sword or axe, using a sword signals to everyone and their mother that Snorri is an ardent acolyte/follower of Gazul. And he... isn't, while they are and such a weapon would be a reminder of Zharrvengryn to the organization. He's been inspired by Gazul, but since hasn't touched too deeply on his theology or worship on screen and is still primarily a priest of Thungni.
 
I really doubt we are only ever going to make one anti Chaos weapon if anything I want to make one for each of the Ancestors. A two handed hammer for Grungni, a two handed ax for Grimnir, an ax and shield for Valaya, a rune staff or anvil for Thungni, a war machine for Morgrim, a one handed hammer for Smednir, and a sword for Gazul.
 
IronFist said:
Personally, I'd really rather not muscle in on that Relation, and let her have a chance at replacing those Apprentice pieces when she gets back from Journeying.
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This is important to me, and why I quite like the Talisman of Being A Good King.


Hmmm. You know, if we weren't going with writing in a theme/function, I'd probably go with MGrungni/Valaya/Grimnir. Don't know if we could do much better for 'traits a king should have'.

Another thought: Lightspite/Refraction/Lightfright. "Blows struck against me will be turned back to strike you in the form of Your worst fear."

Think of it. You go to hit someone, and all of a sudden you're hit back by a giant murderous clown only you can see.
 
soul ice said:
Ancestors Guidance. A Gromril pendant carved with a depiction of Grimnir and Grungni working and defending a hearthstone carved as a small flame under a depiction of Valaya tending to the flame the depictions of Grunrni and Grimnir have the runes on them the rune of Valaya is carved on the hearthstone. (Rune of Grungni, Rune of Grimnir, Rune of Valaya)
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Something I put up earlier when we started thinking of making a talisman could easily replace the Grungni rune with its master variant.
 
BelligerentGnu said:
This is important to me, and why I quite like the Talisman of Being A Good King.


Hmmm. You know, if we weren't going with writing in a theme/function, I'd probably go with MGrungni/Valaya/Grimnir. Don't know if we could do much better for 'traits a king should have'.

Another thought: Lightspite/Refraction/Lightfright. "Blows struck against me will be turned back to strike you in the form of Your worst fear."

Think of it. You go to hit someone, and all of a sudden you're hit back by a giant murderous clown only you can see.
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I'd actually just use a normal rune of Grungni for the be a good king amulet since the MRune version isn't really about kinglyness.

For the theme maybe something like "A king is a craftsman of his people. An amulet that reminds the bearer of that."
 
LaggPlaguedDuke said:
For the theme maybe something like "A king is a craftsman of his people. An amulet that reminds the bearer of that."
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That's kind of what I'm trying to go for, while also holistically tying into both what we said to him in that conversation and what other people have brought up. This is giving me some ideas.

"Help a Prince become a Good King: strong through failure, wise and with a keen craftsman's skill to guide his people."
 
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[Negaverse] Rhunrikki Strollaz, +10 to a Journeyman Roll [USED]
  • Apocrypha
    • So, since Mathilde-of-the-Many-Titles and Golden Age Dwarf Santa are both Companion options in the new Karaz Ankor jump, I wrote a little thing. Yes, I'm linking both this thread and the other one, because I'm posting this in both.

    Praise @soulcake and @BoneyM.


    NEGAVERSE: RHUNRIKKI STROLLAZ
    From strol, to walk or travel, and -az, 'the definitive article, the real thing.' I couldn't find a khazalid for 'lost' or I'd have used that instead.

    Well, you're still alive, so that went better than it could have. Beardlings!

    Absently brushing the soot from your beard as best you can, you begin formulating a right proper avalanche of a grumble on the subject of careless experimentation. Then, as the remainder of the smoke clears, you pause. This is not Kraka Drakk. The stone is wrong, the elevation is wrong, the sun coming in that window is at the wrong angle for this time of day, and that is not a Dwarf.

    Is this one of those seafaring Elgi there's been word of? No, too short, only barely taller than you are. And her ears are round -

    The runed belt she's wearing catches your eye, and from there the rest of the runes in the room. Everything else ceases to be important. Whatever Hold you've ended up in, that one with the sapphire crown is clearly the King. This leaves you with the question of what damnfool apprentice is responsible for the absolutely shameful work being worn on open display in front of him like prize gifts and why their shoddy mine bracing of a master didn't step in!

    As you open your mouth to begin a truly incensed grumbling, the Elder to the King's left collects himself and starts speaking first.

    Things abruptly get very strange.

    What You Know
    • You are in Karak Eight Peaks. It is the Age of Vengeance, the Ancestors are all but gone, and the Dwarves are fading. (Bah!)
    • Kraka Drakk and the other Northern Holds have been lost for centuries. (BAH!)
    • What you took for a simple Elder, insofar as such a thing exists, is Kragg the Grim, regarded as the greatest Runelord of this Age (BAH!).
    • Things, in general, are a complete and utter shambles, and would be worse if not for the Umgi - 'human' - Mathilde Weber, who is serving as 'Loremaster' to King Belegar Ironhammer, and is apparently responsible for retaking five of the Eight Peaks from a variety of bitterly hated foes you've never heard of in your life (and also Trolls) in a single day.
    • Via a fairly rapid exchange of grumbles and counter-grumbles with Kragg, you have established your bonafides as a genuine 'Golden Age' Runelord.

    More detailed dossiers on individuals of note will be forthcoming shortly, but in general, wat do?

    Management reminds you that this is a Negaverse Omake and you should not actually vote here, just in case you mistook me for the OP.
    [ ] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    [ ] Get the lay of the land. What are these urk and grobi and thaggoraki to be spoken of with such hatred? What is the current military, economic, and political situation? Not to put too fine a point on it, what in the Ancestors' names is going on here!
    [ ] Analyse your arrival point as quickly and efficiently as you can. If there are traces to be found, they'll likely fade with time.
    [ ] Something else?

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    BoneyCake said:
    >Despite being barely of adult age by Dwarf standards, Loremaster Weber is considered a Grandmaster of her Guild, the mhornzukofri, and is uniformly considered to have proven her skill, merit, and reliability by even the dourest of Karak Eight Peaks' Elders.
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    Given she apparently conquered five peaks in a day I'm not surprised! Against orcs and skaven? She's a fucking shadow mage! I could maybe understand fire or death or something like that, but even with Dwarf army support how would you even -

    [O] Investigate Loremaster Weber

    beard hair 52
    I appreciate the lure of the What The Fuck but

    [O] Analyse your arrival point

    Is both time critical and super important. If we can get back and forth, or bring people back and forward - like, what if the Ancestors vanished because they came forward in time to save the Dwarves?

    beard hair 948
    You're, uh. You're kinda jumping ahead a bit there. In the first place screwing with time seems hella unsafe, because A) if you look at the character sheet, or if you're familiar with Snorri from the original Quest, you'll notice that we have no (zero) experience with time, and B) which part of the Warhammer universe is characterised by fucky time? Exactly.

    beard hair 425
    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Think about what you'd need to do for a proper apprenticeship here

    Kraka Drakk will survive without us; given that Word of Bonecake from the What Happened To StrollarQuest post is that we are Strollar Snorri plus a bit of extra knowledge and research and some secrets, Drakk - Goldenage!Drak? Gold!Drak? Snorri's Drak? - has a bunch of our former apprentices and their apprentices, plus a bunch of others. These clowns have us and that's it, as far as actually good runelords go.

    Getting to call Kragg the Grim a clown is amazing all by itself, but I have to admit I'm hella excited for a Dwarf from before all the Grudge and Slayer stuff to get stuck into modern Mallus and shake things up. Mathilde seems crazy awesome too (Bonecake, what the hell did you roll?) and while I'm slightly terrified I also really really want to see a collab. What will happen when we put Snorri Presents on the woman who routed five mountains' worth of gribblies in a day? I don't know, but I want to find out.

    beard hair 3832
    As cool as that sounds, remember we have Winds Denied? Weber is going to be lugging around a fat -35 penalty whenever we wander in her general direction. Personally I don't see that as a bad thing because tbh I'm sus she's some flavour of cultist, probably the Just As Planned type (Weber? spinning webs? plotting? hmm), but if you like her you might wanna keep it in mind.

    [O] Analyse your arrival point

    Time-critical options are king.

    beard hair 489
    Can't we control that, though? I'm pretty sure even these local degenerates ( :V ) can do something that basic.

    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Look into this strange power the Umgi have developed and see if there might be any use for it in your research.

    bonecake
    Beard Hair 425 said:
    Bonecake, what the hell did you roll?
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    holy shit lmao

    beard hair 9235
    THIS IS WHERE OUR GOOD DICE WENT AT THE END OF DORFSANTA QUEST
    MATHILDE YOU KILLED MY FAVOURITE QUEST

    but also Grey Wizard Murderblender is an exceptionally cool concept even without basically singlehandedly retaking Karak Eight Peaks so I forgive you. Something about Grumbly Dorf Santa Grandpa and Cheerful Murderblender Wizard Granddaughter really tickles my interest bone.

    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Look into this strange power the Umgi have developed and see if there might be any use for it in your research.

    beard hair 27
    Unknown to critsux
    Nor known to boxcars
    This is the only path
    So I pray
    Unlimited Cling Onto Mathilde Works!

    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Look into this strange power the Umgi have developed and see if there might be any use for it in your research.

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  • Apocrypha
    • theajl said:
    So, since Mathilde-of-the-Many-Titles and Golden Age Dwarf Santa are both Companion options in the new Karaz Ankor jump, I wrote a little thing. Yes, I'm linking both this thread and the other one, because I'm posting this in both.

    Praise @soulcake and @BoneyM.


    NEGAVERSE: RHUNRIKKI STROLLAZ
    From strol, to walk or travel, and -az, 'the definitive article, the real thing.' I couldn't find a khazalid for 'lost' or I'd have used that instead.

    Well, you're still alive, so that went better than it could have. Beardlings!

    Absently brushing the soot from your beard as best you can, you begin formulating a right proper avalanche of a grumble on the subject of careless experimentation. Then, as the remainder of the smoke clears, you pause. This is not Kraka Drakk. The stone is wrong, the elevation is wrong, the sun coming in that window is at the wrong angle for this time of day, and that is not a Dwarf.

    Is this one of those seafaring Elgi there's been word of? No, too short, only barely taller than you are. And her ears are round -

    The runed belt she's wearing catches your eye, and from there the rest of the runes in the room. Everything else ceases to be important. Whatever Hold you've ended up in, that one with the sapphire crown is clearly the King. This leaves you with the question of what damnfool apprentice is responsible for the absolutely shameful work being worn on open display in front of him like prize gifts and why their shoddy mine bracing of a master didn't step in!

    As you open your mouth to begin a truly incensed grumbling, the Elder to the King's left collects himself and starts speaking first.

    Things abruptly get very strange.

    What You Know
    • You are in Karak Eight Peaks. It is the Age of Vengeance, the Ancestors are all but gone, and the Dwarves are fading. (Bah!)
    • Kraka Drakk and the other Northern Holds have been lost for centuries. (BAH!)
    • What you took for a simple Elder, insofar as such a thing exists, is Kragg the Grim, regarded as the greatest Runelord of this Age (BAH!).
    • Things, in general, are a complete and utter shambles, and would be worse if not for the Umgi - 'human' - Mathilde Weber, who is serving as 'Loremaster' to King Belegar Ironhammer, and is apparently responsible for retaking five of the Eight Peaks from a variety of bitterly hated foes you've never heard of in your life (and also Trolls) in a single day.
    • Via a fairly rapid exchange of grumbles and counter-grumbles with Kragg, you have established your bonafides as a genuine 'Golden Age' Runelord.

    More detailed dossiers on individuals of note will be forthcoming shortly, but in general, wat do?

    Management reminds you that this is a Negaverse Omake and you should not actually vote here, just in case you mistook me for the OP.
    [ ] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    [ ] Get the lay of the land. What are these urk and grobi and thaggoraki to be spoken of with such hatred? What is the current military, economic, and political situation? Not to put too fine a point on it, what in the Ancestors' names is going on here!
    [ ] Analyse your arrival point as quickly and efficiently as you can. If there are traces to be found, they'll likely fade with time.
    [ ] Something else?

    insufficient viscosity
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    beard hair 1526
    Given she apparently conquered five peaks in a day I'm not surprised! Against orcs and skaven? She's a fucking shadow mage! I could maybe understand fire or death or something like that, but even with Dwarf army support how would you even -

    [O] Investigate Loremaster Weber

    beard hair 52
    I appreciate the lure of the What The Fuck but

    [O] Analyse your arrival point

    Is both time critical and super important. If we can get back and forth, or bring people back and forward - like, what if the Ancestors vanished because they came forward in time to save the Dwarves?

    beard hair 948
    You're, uh. You're kinda jumping ahead a bit there. In the first place screwing with time seems hella unsafe, because A) if you look at the character sheet, or if you're familiar with Snorri from the original Quest, you'll notice that we have no (zero) experience with time, and B) which part of the Warhammer universe is characterised by fucky time? Exactly.

    beard hair 425
    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Think about what you'd need to do for a proper apprenticeship here

    Kraka Drakk will survive without us; given that Word of Bonecake from the What Happened To StrollarQuest post is that we are Strollar Snorri plus a bit of extra knowledge and research and some secrets, Drakk - Goldenage!Drak? Gold!Drak? Snorri's Drak? - has a bunch of our former apprentices and their apprentices, plus a bunch of others. These clowns have us and that's it, as far as actually good runelords go.

    Getting to call Kragg the Grim a clown is amazing all by itself, but I have to admit I'm hella excited for a Dwarf from before all the Grudge and Slayer stuff to get stuck into modern Mallus and shake things up. Mathilde seems crazy awesome too (Bonecake, what the hell did you roll?) and while I'm slightly terrified I also really really want to see a collab. What will happen when we put Snorri Presents on the woman who routed five mountains' worth of gribblies in a day? I don't know, but I want to find out.

    beard hair 3832
    As cool as that sounds, remember we have Winds Denied? Weber is going to be lugging around a fat -35 penalty whenever we wander in her general direction. Personally I don't see that as a bad thing because tbh I'm sus she's some flavour of cultist, probably the Just As Planned type (Weber? spinning webs? plotting? hmm), but if you like her you might wanna keep it in mind.

    [O] Analyse your arrival point

    Time-critical options are king.

    beard hair 489
    Can't we control that, though? I'm pretty sure even these local degenerates :)v) can do something that basic.

    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Look into this strange power the Umgi have developed and see if there might be any use for it in your research.

    bonecake
    RanaldPls.jpg failed to load

    beard hair 425
    holy shit lmao

    beard hair 9235
    THIS IS WHERE OUR GOOD DICE WENT AT THE END OF DORFSANTA QUEST
    MATHILDE YOU KILLED MY FAVOURITE QUEST

    but also Grey Wizard Murderblender is an exceptionally cool concept even without basically singlehandedly retaking Karak Eight Peaks so I forgive you. Something about Grumbly Dorf Santa Grandpa and Cheerful Murderblender Wizard Granddaughter really tickles my interest bone.

    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Look into this strange power the Umgi have developed and see if there might be any use for it in your research.

    beard hair 27
    Unknown to critsux
    Nor known to boxcars
    This is the only path
    So I pray
    Unlimited Cling Onto Mathilde Works!

    [O] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
    -[O] Look into this strange power the Umgi have developed and see if there might be any use for it in your research.

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    Huh, a jumpchain doc here? Auspicious given other activities I've seen around. Interesting.

    Veery interesting.
     
    bird yells said:
    No, we don't know any of the probabilities involved, nor are we likely to learn them. The thread's gone for it four times so far and all four have resulted in a combo, but plural of anecdote, etc. Also, it should perhaps be said that the best of those four works, Snorri's hammer, was preceded by the thread collectively putting a lot of effort into discussing exactly what sort of runes might be involved in a "craftsmanship hammer", putting forward specific suggestions for arrays and so on, and people went for a theme more because of the difficulty narrowing down exactly which of a few similar concepts to go for rather than because anyone particularly wanted to substitute Snorri's judgement for their own. Did that influence how generous soulcake was, when he decided to give the hammer one of the better combos we've found? Who can say.
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    Ok, that assuages my worries quite a bit then and I'd be willing to go for a theme. Especially since as I noted earlier we can always do a seperate talisman to switch to for battle if we don't get a combo or the combo doesn't make a set with the rest of the king's panoply.
     
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