The QM has said thrice that he's not going to give us a Monkey's paw wish and that it will follow both the letter and spirit of the wish. The spirit of the wish was that we could cleanse grief freely without negative side effects so it will be fine.

Though the exact choice on the wish means that even if it does produce grief sludge we'd be able to control that too.
It's not a monkey's paw so much as a logical consequence of the wish- a monkey's paw'd be if the grief tries to eat someone and spawns a Walpurgisnight as soon as we summon it or something. Until we can confirm we can make the grief disappear, might as well expect unforeseen consequences. :p
 
I suspect we can shred Witches but returning a Witched-out girl to her old self, sane or otherwise...eh, that really seems like a Madokami level feat at that point. There's just enough left of the meguca in the Witch to give a misleading impression, going by the canon evidence.
Oh, I don't expect for them to go back to thier old self, there's probably not much left to go back to. But there might be just enough for the witch's mind to rebuild on once the KILLMAIMDEATH is gone. *shrug*. All conjecture at this point I suppose.
 
"I wish to control grief! My own! That of others! The grief of the Witches! All of it!"

This is exactly what Sabrina wished for. Not to cleanse the grief, not to destroy it but control it. So even if she could take it out from someone's soulstone she has to do something with it immediatly or she will end with it in her own soulstone - and yes she has soulstone not a griefseed.

So no unlimited clensing please:(. That will be too broken. Anything else is fine ;).
 
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"I wish to control grief! My own! That of others! The grief of the Witches! All of it!"

This is exactly what Sabrina wished for. Not to cleanse the grief, not to destroy it but control it. So even if she could take it out from someone's soulstone she has to do something with it immediatly or she will end with it in her own soulstone - and yes she has soulstone not a griefseed.

So no unlimited clensing please:(. That will be too broken. Anything else is fine ;).
Wishes follow intent/spirit as well as letter.

Many people clearly intended to be able to cleanse sul jims.

Also why no Homuhomu, she may have gref sid! We must figure out extent of powers, and if we go to Mami Sayaka will tell her our Wish which will obviously lead into her finding out the Truth of Witches.

And we all know what happens then.
 
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Wishes follow intent/spirit as well as letter.

Many people clearly intended to be able to cleanse sul jims.

But grief is dangerous and unstable. And Sabrine don't have an ability to destroy it only manipulate it. Hence she has to do something with it - store it somewhere (her soulgame? - bad idea), create something with it (familiars, wraiths), use it in a fight (temporary weapons ala Sayaka's swords, Octavia's wheels) dump it on someone. Also grief will corrupt anything you use it on (the weapons will disolve into a miasma for example). Only incubators can convert grief into something useful, sadly there isn't any machine of theirs that can do it on Earth now (but if they divine that you can syphon the grief to it they will build one, but that require intensive reaserch).
 
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Lilithium's idea is good. We need to study Grief Seeds and Soul Gems so that we know just what our theoretical limits are in terms of power.

Damn, I wish I found this early enough to vote for the life-cycle vote, it would have worked so much better than just saying we want to control grief.
 
But grief is dangerous and unstable. And Sabrine don't have an ability to destroy it only manipulate it. Hence she has to do something with it - store it somwhere (her soulgame? - bad idea), create something with it (familiars, wraiths), use it in a fight (temporary weapons ala Sayaka's swords, Octavia's wheels) dump it on someone. Also grief will corrupt anything you use it on (the weapons will disolve into a miasma for example). Only incubators can convert grief into something useful, sadly there isn't any machine of theirs that can do it on Earth now (but if they divine that you can syphon the grief to it they will build one, but that require intensive reaserch).
All of this is citation needed.
 
[x] I...I guess we should see Mami.
[x] So...how long have you known her?
[x] Ask Sayaka what's so bad about Homura.
[x] Try and get your thoughts in order. What do you know other than how things went in canon?

much discussion, such words, very talking, wow

I'm awake again.
 
[X] Decide to seek out Homura. We'll be better off showing ourselves now than 'siding' with Mami or Kyuubey. Besides, she's likely to know much more about the situation then we are and we have to inform her about Oriko wanting to kill Madoka.
 
[x] I...I guess we should see Mami.
[x] So...how long have you known her?
[x] Ask Sayaka what's so bad about Homura.
[x] Try and get your thoughts in order. What do you know other than how things went in canon?
 
[X] Decide to seek out Homura. We'll be better off showing ourselves now than 'siding' with Mami or Kyuubey. Besides, she's likely to know much more about the situation then we are and we have to inform her about Oriko wanting to kill Madoka.
Lilithium, I think this is a definite misstep. Homura is dangerous to approach as a wildcard without even trying our powers/any backup, and since our goal is to get both Mami and Homura with our program...we need to talk to Mami and at least make her inclined to hear us out when Kyubey starts to poison the well. She either knows about Oriko or it's a pre-Oriko timeline and it won't come up yet- and in any event Madoka'll be well protected for long enough once we get to Mami.

Homura won't give a damn about prior or perceived "allegiances" as long as you agree to sign up for Walpurgisnight and aren't holding a knife to Madoka's throat. Mami can and will because...well, Mami.
 
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Lilithium, I think this is a definite misstep. Homura is dangerous to approach as a wildcard without even trying our powers/any backup, and since our goal is to get both Mami and Homura with our program...we need to talk to Mami and at least make her inclined to hear us out when Kyubey starts to poison the well. She either knows about Oriko or it's a pre-Oriko timeline and it won't come up yet- and in any event Madoka'll be well protected for long enough once we get to Mami.

Homura won't give a damn about prior or perceived "allegiances" as long as you agree to sign up for Walpurgisnight and aren't holding a knife to Madoka's throat. Mami can and will because...well, Mami.
YOU CAN NEVER ENOUGH SHADOWRUNS.
 
[x] I...I guess we should see Mami.
[x] So...how long have you known her?
[x] Ask Sayaka what's so bad about Homura.
[x] Try and get your thoughts in order. What do you know other than how things went in canon?
 
Unforeseen Consequences pt. 4
The decision is swift and easy. Meet she-who-is-probably-murderface, highly suspicious and hostile, or the nice, easygoing, and pleasant puella magi? No choice at all, really.

"I..." you frown, as though trying to remember. "I guess I should go to meet this Tomoe Mami...?"

Madoka smiles brightly, as does Sayaka. "We'll bring you to see her. We're on our way there, anyway," offers the bluenette.

"Thank you," you respond gratefully. You're not sure how to get around Mitakihara, or even where Mami -or Homura- lives.

"Um," Madoka injects, digging around in her school bag. "M-maybe you should try to clean up a bit before we go, Sabrina?" Finally locating what she'd been looking for, she withdraws a small packet of wet tissues and proffers it to you.

You look down at your bile and vomit covered shirt, and feel rather sheepish. Despite the contract having cured your ills, the results hadn't gone away. "Y-yeah. That's a good idea, thanks, Madoka."

After a few moments of fussing and cleaning, the three of you step out of the alleyway, Kyuubey riding high on Madoka's shoulder. Even though you couldn't clean off everything, and there's still a faint, acrid odour of vomit following you, you do feel better simply for not having a crusty, stiff shirt. You'll probably need to find a change of clothes later, though.

"So..." Sayaka begins, drawing the syllable out. "For a foreigner, you speak excellent Japanese."

"I... yes, yes, I do," you answer, frowning. "I... I'm honestly not sure why, though." You probe your memories, trying to remember anything. You remember

"I... I don't remember," you finally confess. Madoka frowns unhappily, laying a hand on your shoulder in comfort-she has to reach up a little to do that. Sayaka looks discomfited too, glancing away.

After a moment of walking in awkward silence, you clear your throat and ask, "So, how long have you known Tomoe Mami?"

Sayaka brightens a little, and responds, "Oh, we just met her yesterday, when she saved us fro... from a Witch."

"Oh," you reply noncommittally. Behind your neutral expression, your mind whirls, putting things together. So it's early, very early, in the timeline. "I guess it's really a good thing that you met her, huh? Otherwise I guess I wouldn't be here." You huff out a gentle laugh. Madoka looks like she's going to say something, but you continue, "So what about this Akemi Homura? Why don't you like her, Sayaka?"

Sayaka grimaces. "Eh... she's weird. She just transferred in, and then yesterday, before Mami saved us, Akemi was attacking Kyuubey." She pauses to rub Kyuubey on the head, to which it arches its back like a cat and hops daintily over to Sayaka's shoulders. "You know, maybe she was trying to get us attacked by the Witch! That's why we got caught, you know!"

"I don't think she's that bad, Sayaka," Madoka says in response. "I- I think she's just trying to help, too, she just picked the wrong way to do it. And throwing that fire extinguisher at her might have been a bit too much, you know!"

As they fall into friendly bickering, you frown to yourself, thinking. You made a Wish with the Incubator. What you think is a good Wish. With Wishes come powers, though, and what are yours?

The moment the question crosses your mind, you know. But more pertinently, you can sense what seems to be an abyssal, yawning pit of Grief not terribly far from you, perhaps a hundred meters at most. And you can, just as well, sense a small wellspring of Grief and other moving towards the black hole of Grief.

[] Stay the course. Go to see Mami.
[] Investigate.
[] ???


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You'll find out more about your powers when you either a) go into combat, or b) go for practice. Be assured, though, that your powers are both useful and powerful; see above, regarding my statements that I'll not screw you guys on the Wish.
 
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Hmm the stronger Grief signature is almost certainly a witch, but the weaker signature could be either a familiar or a magical girl.

I'd really rather get some practice in before engaging in a fight, too risky to go in blind.
 
How far are we from Mami's place? If it's not too far maybe we can just tell her about the signature. Given her feelings about magic she'd probably accept it at face value even though its our first meeting
 
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