Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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I think we're safe if we stick to the default vote. Firn clearly has something in mind.
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I will remind everyone that we need to make sure to tell Homura about the latest development in Oriko's powers. Not that she saw the karmic links between Homura, Madoka, and Sabrina obviously, but that she was able to see and identify karmic links through her clairvoyance among Chiyoda. We promised Homura we'd keep her up to date on developments like that.
Obviously we don't do it right this instant in the middle of the meeting, but we need to remember to tell her when we get back.
Obviously we don't do it right this instant in the middle of the meeting, but we need to remember to tell her when we get back.
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No, I meant getting involved with using their powers for projects, since that would likely parallel what they are already doing.
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i feel similarly about ~presentation~
i think as much as anyone, thatd itd be super fun to do and see, to be as flamboyant as possible, get sayaka to play our music etc etc (wed play our our music with grief, but m e g a m i n d r e f e r e n c e.)
but im not sure that's what best accomplishes our goals, come in, plainly state our case, bap bap bap. just like establish the raw facts for tokyo. seperate it from the myth of who/what we are. i think fanciness would be purely for demonstrations... like dont open with it, ease into it. and maybe we do want to flex our muscles just a little bit, show how ofcourse we were capable of taking down iowa, no slipknot album can hold a candle to us ;p
also i think weve done the angel wings of death thng a couple times.
when the (sendai? whatever city the university is in, where the civil war happened) healer team came to visit, and also i think when we first met kyōkō?
i think as much as anyone, thatd itd be super fun to do and see, to be as flamboyant as possible, get sayaka to play our music etc etc (wed play our our music with grief, but m e g a m i n d r e f e r e n c e.)
but im not sure that's what best accomplishes our goals, come in, plainly state our case, bap bap bap. just like establish the raw facts for tokyo. seperate it from the myth of who/what we are. i think fanciness would be purely for demonstrations... like dont open with it, ease into it. and maybe we do want to flex our muscles just a little bit, show how ofcourse we were capable of taking down iowa, no slipknot album can hold a candle to us ;p
also i think weve done the angel wings of death thng a couple times.
when the (sendai? whatever city the university is in, where the civil war happened) healer team came to visit, and also i think when we first met kyōkō?
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
*looks at arguments*
[X] How do you want to present yourself to the Council?
- [X]Shock and awe PRESENTATION!
[X] How do you want to present yourself to the Council?
- [X]
Misty Raven
Tee Hee
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JIMI94
Birdman with a cauldron on it's head
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- The Garden of Earthly Delights
I mean, I do, but I always welcome suggestions/modifications.
(For example, I'll be keeping in mind not going too far overboard.)
Always Happening
We could have prevented this.
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- On a train with no brakes
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Faith is a form of Hope, and Hope is extensively speculated to be an equal and opposite substance to Grief that powers magic.
My current hypothesis:
-Akane is a construct of some type, though I can only speculate as to whether she was made through a Wish or thaumatologically.
-I would say she's made in Riko's image, though the opposite is equally possible: Given that Akane isn't a Puella Magi nor follows their conventions, we have no idea how old she is, or if she's the first of her kind.
-The 'red strings of fate' connecting her to the shrines collect the faith of worshipers and transfer them to her as a power source.
-Given that her soul hasn't been modified in any manner we can detect, it's plausible that the Imperial Regalia function as transformers/regulators, turning that elemental emotional energy into something she can use, be it by herself or through the relics.
-Her purpose is probably to do exactly what she's doing: Keeping the peace in Tokyo. Her power and styling as a divine member of the Imperial Family are probably meant to give her a divine mandate-- though, unfortunately for her, the Imperial Family are no longer particularly relevant and Japan is becoming increasingly secular, explaining her declining power and influence over time. Consider what the pre-Chiyoda era must have looked like, though: With this density of magical girls, and given that Japan is hit fairly regularly with natural disasters, Tokyo was likely a hotbed of territorial skirmishes, warlordism, and exploiting new/lone magical girls, especially during the postwar recovery period.
Faith is a form of Hope, and Hope is extensively speculated to be an equal and opposite substance to Grief that powers magic.
My current hypothesis:
-Akane is a construct of some type, though I can only speculate as to whether she was made through a Wish or thaumatologically.
-I would say she's made in Riko's image, though the opposite is equally possible: Given that Akane isn't a Puella Magi nor follows their conventions, we have no idea how old she is, or if she's the first of her kind.
-The 'red strings of fate' connecting her to the shrines collect the faith of worshipers and transfer them to her as a power source.
-Given that her soul hasn't been modified in any manner we can detect, it's plausible that the Imperial Regalia function as transformers/regulators, turning that elemental emotional energy into something she can use, be it by herself or through the relics.
-Her purpose is probably to do exactly what she's doing: Keeping the peace in Tokyo. Her power and styling as a divine member of the Imperial Family are probably meant to give her a divine mandate-- though, unfortunately for her, the Imperial Family are no longer particularly relevant and Japan is becoming increasingly secular, explaining her declining power and influence over time. Consider what the pre-Chiyoda era must have looked like, though: With this density of magical girls, and given that Japan is hit fairly regularly with natural disasters, Tokyo was likely a hotbed of territorial skirmishes, warlordism, and exploiting new/lone magical girls, especially during the postwar recovery period.
blast flame
How far will we go if it means lighting the way?
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[X] Architect Iront
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You know, it feels weird that Firn has a plan for "Presentation" that we don't actually know. I mean, it's basically:
Sabrina: I got a plan to wow the Tokyo Council.
Mami: Oh, what is it?
Sabrina: No clue, it's a surprise to myself.
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So, I can see a couple alternatives to what the Karmic Destiny connections Oriko identified is all about.
She might be even more like Madoka than we've been thinking, a completely ordinary girl who got her karmic destiny boosted by a similar, but not identical means. Her friends made signifcant wishes and efforts for her sake, then learned about the problems of the Magical Girl system and are now working to keep her from contracting. And among the ways they're doing that is by keeping her involved in Magical Girl politics without her needing to contract herself, possibly boosted by some magical items to ensure her safety. We could be looking at a prototype for our own Madoka plans.
Alternately, she's like Kazumi 13, Possibly even manufactured by the same process. She could be someone who's been de-witched. Which would handily explain why Nico's twigging on her so hard and why she's being so tight lipped about her theory. We know that doing that for Kazumi 13 led to her intertwining her karmic destiny with the teammates involved in her creation, which gave her access to magical powers without being a Magical Girl herself, a point confirmed when she was able to make a contract with Kyubey.
She might be even more like Madoka than we've been thinking, a completely ordinary girl who got her karmic destiny boosted by a similar, but not identical means. Her friends made signifcant wishes and efforts for her sake, then learned about the problems of the Magical Girl system and are now working to keep her from contracting. And among the ways they're doing that is by keeping her involved in Magical Girl politics without her needing to contract herself, possibly boosted by some magical items to ensure her safety. We could be looking at a prototype for our own Madoka plans.
Alternately, she's like Kazumi 13, Possibly even manufactured by the same process. She could be someone who's been de-witched. Which would handily explain why Nico's twigging on her so hard and why she's being so tight lipped about her theory. We know that doing that for Kazumi 13 led to her intertwining her karmic destiny with the teammates involved in her creation, which gave her access to magical powers without being a Magical Girl herself, a point confirmed when she was able to make a contract with Kyubey.
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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It's a brief return of the "points, not phrasing" voting format of yesteryear. Personally, I welcome it, even if it is doomed to die again when we actually start speaking with the Council.
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Variant in details, but I do like the idea - we don't need to go flashy from a layman's view, any girl can put on a show.
EDIT: And re. connections, my guess is she's created by a wish, but created as a being powered by faith, which might reduce the load in the girls that made her. Possibly with that as deliberate, possibly just phrasing and flawed preconceptions about how magic works. "I wish the people of Tokyo could give them a guardian who would deserve their faith" given protectiveness and a feeling of insufficiency, "I wish the city would be protected no matter how many magical girls fall, so long as there are people to protect", if she grasps the lethality of the job, something like that.
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I mean PRESENTATION is all about phrasing in a sense, so to leave the fun performance to Firn feels odd.
Really, the problem seems to be that we could have more fun actually planning out the performance. Will we try to use Wings of Hope and Grief, while trying to account for the relative positions of home and Mami? A dynamic entrance on a carpet of grief, with a geometric kaleidoscope? Grief speakers with discrete music?
Or perhaps we can come up with these ideas, and solicit more from our friends. It's less jarring, cause of course we don't know what genius ideas our friends could come up with, vs an idea that Sabrina comes up with out of our hands.
Always Happening
We could have prevented this.
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If Akane were a Chimera, while we wouldn't be able to detect her Soul Gem (on account of her not having one), we should have been able to detect her Grief Seed.
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Not necessarily. There was only one Kazumi Grief Seed, but the previous 12 Kazumi clones were all still alive when Kazumi 13 had it with her.
Always Happening
We could have prevented this.
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Which still doesn't make sense; at one point in the manga, I'm positive (please, don't make me read PMKM a sixth time) that it's stated that the clones, upon remembering that they Witched out, proceeded to go berserk and revert to Witch form, which is why Kazumi 13 has her memory erased by Umika and only partially restored. The whole bit with the old clones I feel is a victim of the manga's notoriously bad writing, and I choose to ignore it when theorizing on magiscience stuff.
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In terms of PMAS metaphysics, we do know that Witch Kisses bear some notable similarities to Familiars.
I could easily see a variant on a Witch Kiss being the mechanism used to link the Grief Seed to the cloned body. Then the Grief Seed rehatches, the Witch Kiss blossoms into a full, independent quasi-familiar, the Pleiades beat down the Witch and re-collect the Grief Seed, but are left with Kazumi clones piloted by familiars that they can't bring themselves to put down.
I mean, like I said - I welcome ideas. If you want to write up a specific vote, I'm willing to go with that too. I'll happily cherrypick ideas if ideas get posted in thread, too.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
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How much enchanted grief do we have? Cause I want try to fit Chibis into our routine, if we're going comedy.
On a more serious note, if Mitakihara is behind the Tokyo council, I really wanna try for Hope Wings.
Actually, @Godwinson, you're going for a comedic tone right? Flippant and powerful enough for wasteful displays? Personally, I'm going for weird magic, and multitasking, to showcase ourbraindamageuniqueness.
On a more serious note, if Mitakihara is behind the Tokyo council, I really wanna try for Hope Wings.
Actually, @Godwinson, you're going for a comedic tone right? Flippant and powerful enough for wasteful displays? Personally, I'm going for weird magic, and multitasking, to showcase our
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Appletank
Acquire Cheese
dumb ideas 1, pokemon
A grief seed is tossed to the floor, which twitches and shakes. A cloud of grief erupts from it, and Sabrina steps out of it, drinking up the grief. Note, we are not a witch.
2, a drink.
Hold seed in a cup. Drink from it, "pouring out" the grief. Still very not a witch.
3, magic show.
Mami brings out a "table" (ribbons probably). Holds out grief seed for all to see. Then, squeezes the seed over the table. Grief spills out from between her fingers, hitting the table and dissolving the table, yet forms a misshapen lump of grief behind. The grief sloughs off, revealing Sabrina, who's not a witch.
4, a giant floating head with fireworks.
a giant floating head with fireworks that vomits out the crew and dissolves into grief that is not from a witch.
A grief seed is tossed to the floor, which twitches and shakes. A cloud of grief erupts from it, and Sabrina steps out of it, drinking up the grief. Note, we are not a witch.
2, a drink.
Hold seed in a cup. Drink from it, "pouring out" the grief. Still very not a witch.
3, magic show.
Mami brings out a "table" (ribbons probably). Holds out grief seed for all to see. Then, squeezes the seed over the table. Grief spills out from between her fingers, hitting the table and dissolving the table, yet forms a misshapen lump of grief behind. The grief sloughs off, revealing Sabrina, who's not a witch.
4, a giant floating head with fireworks.
a giant floating head with fireworks that vomits out the crew and dissolves into grief that is not from a witch.
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
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- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Hell:I kinda want the presentation to end like this:
Girls! I don't think you quite realize what you got here!
So, why don't you just ruminate,
While I illuminate the possibilities!
Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves
Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But girls you in luck 'cause up your sleeves
You got a brand of magic never fails
You got some power in your corner now
Some heavy ammunition in your feed
You got some punch, pizzazz, yahoo and how
So come on let me clear that seed.
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