I expect she's got a ton of useful insights into our various logistical problems.

That's actually a good point.

Why else would Madokami create Sabrina if not to live vicariously through her achievements and control her everyday life?

:V

No, jokes aside, good idea.

On the subject of our logistical problems, I feel like a straightforward business plan involving hiring a bunch of girls with transportation powers as couriers, then putting out the word that anyone in the world can have a Clear Seed for two partially used Grief Seeds would snowball pretty quickly into something that'd do more good than our current one group at a time policy. It might be a slightly rockier transition, but balancing the status quo that favors the Incubator against that destablization of things might merrit consideration. If nothing else, it'd be a thing to work toward once we've got better word of mouth on our Clear Seed project.

That... is less so.
We're not handing Clear Seeds like candy not because of logistics problems, we have to personally meet each group, explain what it is, what danger it has, ask them not to misuse it, ask them to help others given opportunity, all that Jazz. We're basically vetting them, or as close as we are able to do it.

I'd have liked PMAS to be full of reasonable girls thrust in a bad situation, that, given opportunity, would behave morally and sanely.

And a lot of them are just that.

But there are outliers, like Akiko and Voldemort, so, eh.

And while I'm thinking about it, next time we deign to talk to Kyubey, we should just ask him for the Grief Seeds he's collected. We can offer to give him back all the Grief in them if he agrees. He'll probably say no, but how he says it might give us some clues as to what state those Seeds are in. And there's the pie in the sky overly optimistic possibility that he'll say yes. And either way, it costs us little to make the overture.

Maybe?
Could have merit.
 
Minor nitpick: I'm not entirely sure, but I think we're keeping dewitching efforts secret from coobs. Asking for Grief Seeds from it might clue it in on the path we're taking. The reward could be great, but the risk must be taken into account.

Anyway, hello fresh meat!

Besides this, Grief is also another weapon for us. I don't think Kyubey would give us more ammo for free.
 
Minor nitpick: I'm not entirely sure, but I think we're keeping dewitching efforts secret from coobs. Asking for Grief Seeds from it might clue it in on the path we're taking. The reward could be great, but the risk must be taken into account.

Anyway, hello fresh meat!
Why would it be for dewitching? We're constantly handwringing about not having enough Clear Seeds to hand out.
That... is less so.
We're not handing Clear Seeds like candy not because of logistics problems, we have to personally meet each group, explain what it is, what danger it has, ask them not to misuse it, ask them to help others given opportunity, all that Jazz. We're basically vetting them, or as close as we are able to do it.

I'd have liked PMAS to be full of reasonable girls thrust in a bad situation, that, given opportunity, would behave morally and sanely.

And a lot of them are just that.

But there are outliers, like Akiko and Voldemort, so, eh.
I suspect that in a situation where the scarcity goes away, policing people becomes easier rather than harder. But it's not a hill I'm going to die on just now.
Besides this, Grief is also another weapon for us. I don't think Kyubey would give us more ammo for free.
Assuming the deal I proposed, he'd get to keep the grief. Either way, I fully expect him to say no, but the slim chance that there's some unknown improvement in efficiency in using Sabrina's powers to extract the Grief versus whatever method they're using, or that he'd agree just to pretend to be cooperating in the name of normalizing relations (see trying to manipulate us) feels like it would be worth the very small effort involved in actually asking. Obviously not when we've got more important things going on, but if we're ever in a situation where we're talking to it anyway.
 
Besides this, Grief is also another weapon for us. I don't think Kyubey would give us more ammo for free.
The hilarious thing is, he doesn't know we can arbitrarily increase the amount of Grief we have by continuously applying Banach-Tarski paradox to a sphere of crystallized emotion.
I suspect that in a situation where the scarcity goes away, policing people becomes easier rather than harder. But it's not a hill I'm going to die on just now.

Good to see you're willing to go the distance. The Hill of Swords ever hides behind the horizon of badly thought out arguments about cats.
 
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Like, I'm not an optimist. Unless we establish some sort of a new system beforehand, suddenly ending scarcity will just result in people gorging themselves on and misusing the seemingly infinite resources until they completely unexpectedly find the new limit.

Like, that's the level of cynicism I hope we all can adopt so that Sabrina doesn't have to and also in order to solve the potential problems before they appear.

It'd be great if I was mistaken and everyone decided to behave responsibly. It'd be horrible if someone didn't and we didn't have any countermeasures in place.
 
I do agree completely that we do need to get to talk to Madoka more often!

I also want to see more of Homura interacting with her.
 
I do agree completely that we do need to get to talk to Madoka more often!

I also want to see more of Homura interacting with her.
She's kind of conspicuous by her absence in the current gathering. I mean, I get it that Homura'd never agree to have Madoka anywhere near the epicenter of a potential Kyokuplomacy triggered magical girl fight, but one thing I'm really looking forward to once we get Kyoko on board is Mami being able to introduce two of her friends to eachother.
 
The difference between Hitomi's non-involvement and Madoka's non-involvement is this:

Here's Hitomi's view:

Hitomi nods, green eyes thoughtful. "Just a side character," she says, the words slow and measured. "I suppose I can live with that."

That contrasts with Madoka, who always will try to get involved due to wanting to help.
 
Office Complex pt. 33
"Kyouko..." Mami trails off, uncertain and more than a little lost. She presses her lips together, tears forgotten as she blinks at Kyouko. You can feel the Grief in her Soul Gem, and in Kyouko's, darkness simmering away slowly. Your own, too.

You take a jerky step forward, mouth opening to say something, but-

What?

How do you interject?

You realise, as the thoughts sleet through your head, that you'd never told Mami the full story, either. But this-

This isn't your fight.

You could say something. You could lay out the details, the same sad story that you'd never gotten around to telling Mami about. But not now. You dart a glance at Sayaka and Homura, the latter impassive and the former conflicted, anger duelling incomprehension across her face. You're not sure Kyouko would appreciate you laying bare her secrets and her shame to others.

You shoot Mami a quick look, taking in the way her head is still high despite the way her hands are shaking a bit, and you can't help the surge of pride. Maybe some of it shows on your face when she glances over at you, because she manages to straighten a little before refocusing on Kyouko, seeming to find strength anew.

You freeze in your tracks, words dying unspoken on your lips. Not now. You have to trust Mami.

Kyouko looks down, her eyes shaded by her hair. But there's enough life in her to glance your way, lips peeling off her teeth into that sneer of hers, all false bravado and fragile confidence. But as she opens her mouth to speak again, Mami interrupts.

"Kyouko," she says, soft and resolute. "I don't understand why you're doing this. Please help me understand?"

"Haaah..." Kyouko says, hooking both arms behind her head again and looking up at the night sky. "I dunno. Got no idea why I'm here."

Mami exhales quietly. Her gaze turns to you, and you smile at her even as you slouch back against the wall along the sides of the bridge - because Mami's doing great, even if you are hesitant and uncertain. You've put your trust on Mami, because she deserves it, and you hope that she knows.

"I don't believe that," Mami says at last. "I think you came here for a reason, Kyouko, even if you can't spit it out." She shakes her head. "You really haven't changed from that same old troublesome student of mine."

"I'm not your student any more," Kyouko snarls, eyes flashing.

"Maybe not," Mami says. "But you're..." She smiles, tremulous. "You're still my friend, Kyouko."

"Still naive," Kyouko spits. "There's no place for that, Mami-sempai. How many people left you, huh? Ten? Twenty?"

Brief flashes of pain spark up your arms, your fingers digging into the soft flesh of your palm and your jaw creaking as you force yourself to stay silent.

"Two less than it could be," Mami says, seemingly unfazed other than closing her eyes for a second. "Three less. Kyouko, I... I don't know what happened. But I know that it wasn't your fault."

"I killed my family," Kyouko snarls. "I don't deserve your kindness."

And there it is.

"Did you?" Mami asks. "Because I don't believe that." She tilts her head slightly and smiles at you. "Did she?"

And that-

-it's like a knot of tension comes apart in an instant, leaving you breathless for a second. Not just that you get to say something, the million and one thoughts spilling over into the paralysis of decision, but also that Mami isn't taking it all upon herself. She's not alone.

"No," you say. "No, she didn't."

"What the hell do you know?" Kyouko rounds on you, all sharp angles and harsh shadows.

"Enough," you say. "Kyouko..." You sigh, pushing off the wall, and take a step forward. You catch Mami's eye. "I know. Do you want me to share? I can get everyone on the same page, and I guarantee you everyone will listen, and tell you the same thing, Kyouko. It wasn't your fault."

"I-" Kyouko's hands fist at her side, visibly restraining herself.

"Not now, I think," Mami says. She smiles at you, brief and wan, before turning her attention back to Kyouko. "It seems, Kyouko, that you're not a bad person. I don't think a bad person would have taken in Yuma, either, no matter how much you protest, so... Kyouko, the only person who seems to hate you is yourself."

"Yeah? So what?" Kyouko says. "So what if you think that?!"

"Oh, come off it," Sayaka grumbles, not quite under her breath.

"Come out of the cold, Kyouko," Mami offers. "I... I don't believe for a second that you're a bad person, however much you pretend you are. You may have done things that you regret, but... if I'm naive for believing in justice, that things can be made right, I remember a girl who thought the same."

"Come out of the cold?" Kyouko snarls, fire returning. "Th' hell does that mean?"

"We've got a spare room," Mami says. She holds her open hand out to Kyouko, and despite the tremble in her arm, despite the Grief you can feel churning in her Soul Gem, she's smiling. "I never hated you, Kyouko. And we're talking now, right? I... I guess we've still got things to resolve, but you can stay the night?"

"I..." Kyouko's jaw twitches, clenched together tight enough that you imagine you can hear her teeth creaking against each other.

"Bring Yuma, too, of course," Mami says, lowering her hand. "There's enough room for the both of you."

"I'll think about it." Kyouko whispers the words, half turning away. "I'll think about it."

Without a look back, she strides away, ponytail swishing behind her.

"... oi!" Sayaka yells after her, her frustration apparently finally boiling over. "You better not be skipping out on us. I'll hunt you down and kick your ass myself!"

Kyouko's only response is a rude gesture over her shoulder.

"Let her go," Mami murmurs to you, eyes fixed on Kyouko's disappearing form. "She... she was always like that." She turns to you, eyes glistening with tears. "I... she'll come by. I know she will. I know she will."

"I believe you," you murmur, smiling at her and holding your arms out. "You were amazing, Mami."

She nods, taking a teetering step towards you... and collapses into your arms, shaking with adrenaline and sheer, pent up emotion. She buries her face against your shoulder, clinging to you as though to a float in a storm, and you're not sure where her trembles end and yours begin as the tension finally breaks.

"Dumbass," Sayaka mutters, running an unsteady hand through her hair. "God. I just stood there and I'm..."

"That... went well," Homura says quietly. She seems the least affected, a seemingly emotionless statue, gaze fixed on the road and hooded by shadow. "Well done, Mami."

"I- I-" Mami shakes her head, words muffled by your shirt. "I put a ribbon on her. Just in case. But she- but she'll come. I know she will."

"You-" You can't help the startled laugh that bubbles up your throat. You hadn't even noticed it, Grief senses and all. "That's my Mami."

"I... let's go home, Sabrina," she says softly.

"Yeah, I gotta get going back to Madoka's, too," Sayaka says, making a face. "Still got homework to do. And I've got some thinking to do. This day's been way too long."

"May I join you?" Homura murmurs.

Sayaka snorts, rolling her eyes. "Ask Madoka when you get there, and she'll say yes," she says. "So... yeah, c'mon."

[] Say something to Sayaka/Homura
- [] What about? (write-in)
[] Head home
[] Talk to Mami
- [] Fill Mami in about Kyouko's story
- [] Ask her what she thinks about this whole thing
- [] Something else (write-in)
[] Prepare something for Kyouko?
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)


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So, honestly, any of the three (Let Mami handle it, Kaizuki's, or Godwinson's) options would have been qualified successes, just to various degrees. I'm not going which ones were which, but one of them would have resulted in a lot more belligerence. :V
 
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And Sabrina wins by doing nothing! :V

By the way, does Kyouko have a favorite food? Cause if we're going to prepare something for her, it really should be something that makes her feel like she's come home.
 
Also, frankly, the ideal way to get an unqualified success here would have been to follow through with the initial plans to tell Mami about Kyouko's story ahead of time. Even here, the moment she cottoned on to it, she pretty much managed to break it open immediately.

Thoigh really, the real groundwork that's paid dividends was building up Mami to the degree that she could weather the metaphorical storm and handle all this.
 
That went pretty well. Things got moving and Yuma will probably help with making Kyouko actually show up.

We should cleanse everyone before we split up, since at least Sayaka was probably also affected.
 
[X] Say something to Sayaka/Homura
- [X] Thank them for being here
[X] Head home
[X] Talk to Mami
- [X] Mami is amazing and brilliant and badass and beautiful and whatever other compliments you can think of in the moment
- [X] Also you really messed up by not telling her Kyouko's backstory ahead of time and you're very sorry did you mention how pretty Mami is
[X] Prepare something for Kyouko?
- [X] Taiyaki?
 
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Also, frankly, the ideal way to get an unqualified success here would have been to follow through with the initial plans to tell Mami about Kyouko's story ahead of time. Even here, the moment she cottoned on to it, she pretty much managed to break it open immediately.

Thoigh really, the real groundwork that's paid dividends was building up Mami to the degree that she could weather the metaphorical storm and handle all this.

We need to praise her, also own up to not briefing her ahead of time.

So, and do please elaborate on this:

[x] Praise Mami.
 
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