Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Your headcanon is, in fact, directly contradicted by canon, as when after Madoka makes her wish she speaks with both Mami and Kyouko (whose soul gems had been destroyed).
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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- She/Her
Umika, the Asunaro mind mage we'll likely be taking to Tokyo with us as part of our coalition?
Oh. Her too, I guess.
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
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- Zombie World
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- He/Him
God's allowed to break the rules
(I should watch the series again...)
FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
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It's hard to tell if that scene literally happened, or was just metaphor or happening in her own head, and she had also just rewritten the entire universe. I wouldn't conclude much from it either way about how souls and gems work normally.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
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- Walking the Endless Corridors
Pretty sure Madoka's wish let her move around independent of the normal flow of time after she made it, so that's not that much of a contradiction?
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- Your Native Universe
Keep in mind that when Madoka did her thing, she kind of visited all the timelines (except Magia Record but that's its own thing), which is how she knows the stuff that went down in them. These likely include the ones where Kyouko and Mami have turned into Witches.
Or you know, metaphorical stuff and all that jazz.
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hillo315
Intact but Tactless
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- Somewhere. Somewhere else.
It happened, but it might as well have been a dream. That's the weird thing about completely transcending physical reality: normal rules don't apply. Everything runs on pure narrative logic, death doesn't exist, and there is no where or when.
I never really thought about it before, but we are literally wielding people's despair and negative emotions. We are so god damn chuuni. Given our warhammer and dark colored costume that has pants I'm kinda surprised we aren't accused of using our wish to become the embodiment of Dark Magical Girl tropes.
Also Sabrina deftly used the casual usage of her magical powers for something so mundane to dodge the actual question. She takes after both her Moms that way.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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You've got to admit, "I'm an oversoul projected in a form of a forum quest from the world of a higher ontological order consisting of several dozens incomprehensible and possibly insane beings and also a daughter of two goddesses that haven't come into existence yet in this timeline who experiences time in a non-linear fashion" is a tough pill to swallow.
Heck, we didn't tell this stuff to Mami, they're just people on the Internet we've met.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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Except that Kyouko's magic flat-out allows her to make Naruto-style physical clones.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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Eh, they are either solid objects made out of magic, Naruto-style, or a case of "your mind makes it real". Either way, I don't see a contradiction.
Oh, also
I thought about it, and, as Firnagzen and Godwinson will readily attest, Sabrina is cosplaying Harry Dresden, and when it's Harry Dresden, you don't call it "edgy", you call it "hard-boiled".
Anyone else gonna start any proto-votes? No?
I could start one, but I have a 95% track record of my winning votes being either:
A.) Completely Boring or B.) 'And then Everything was on fire'.
I could start one, but I have a 95% track record of my winning votes being either:
A.) Completely Boring or B.) 'And then Everything was on fire'.
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- Florida
[X] leave these nerds immediately
[X] make griefhax contacting item
[X] contract magical boy kyousuke
[X] contract magical boy mugin
[X] all 3 of you wear shutter shades
[X] profit
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I only see one thing that is wrong with that, theres no hug Mami
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- Florida
can't hug mami when she's balking at our audacious eyewear.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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- Russia
One of the Top 10 Anime betrayals right here
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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- Russia
[X] Tell them about your de-Witching efforts (in privacy)
-[X] Explain that the project is still in its infancy, but you are aware that efforts in that direction always go awry, and why, and you're taking precautions.
[X] Group meeting with the Animators and Shiogama girls
-[X] Make polite introductions.
--[X] in stage whisper, ask the Shiogama girls not to tell the Animators that you call them Animators.
-[X] Miss Ono wanted to talk with you about something?
That's a good cutoff point, I think, unless Firn wanted to have that talk in the end of the discussion, and I'm mucking up his plans.
Also, I think there's enough stuff for one update here?
Gotta wait for a resident votecrafter to pick up the pieces.
-[X] Explain that the project is still in its infancy, but you are aware that efforts in that direction always go awry, and why, and you're taking precautions.
[X] Group meeting with the Animators and Shiogama girls
-[X] Make polite introductions.
--[X] in stage whisper, ask the Shiogama girls not to tell the Animators that you call them Animators.
-[X] Miss Ono wanted to talk with you about something?
That's a good cutoff point, I think, unless Firn wanted to have that talk in the end of the discussion, and I'm mucking up his plans.
Also, I think there's enough stuff for one update here?
Gotta wait for a resident votecrafter to pick up the pieces.
[X] Raiseth
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
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I like it
[X] Raiseth
[X] Raiseth
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- UK
With the reason why girls make better magic users than boys, I've always headcanon'd it more on the female puberty/hormones part of it. As we know, hormones and puberty tend to screw with peoples emotions, could be that it just so happens that girls in early puberty have their minds naturally altered by said hormones such that they are more responsive to the method of unlocking magic the incubators use, with the creation of magical boys, adults and/or children being more difficult, either impossible or inefficient energy wise.
As has been pointed out, it's not like teenage girls really have stronger emotions than boys or adult women, those emotions just express more openly which could aid in some conceptual catalysing connection necessary to the magic unlocking process, compared to other demographics with more closed off/stable emotional states, which is the reason for this ease of magic unlocking.
Could also be something to do with the fact puberty is a time of great change in a humans life, and this change can be conceptually harnessed in the transformation/creation of a soul gem, though this would also apply to boys. Maybe something to do with the way boys tend to close off more meaning extracting the souls is more difficult?
Magic strength I'm also absolutely certain does not correspond to strength of emotions, as Madoka's magic strength increased due to timeloops which shouldn't have affected her mind personally at all, more evidence that the emotional state is either purely a catalyst or only part of the equation.
Personally, I believe it is fate and the future effect you could have on the world which dictates magical strength, and your emotional state which dictates if you can be unlocked, with only those who combine those two factors at a point in time having 'potential', which is why Kyubey just drugging someone with hormones into the optimal state for contracting doesn't work well; they still need high fate potential which Kyubey can't scan ahead of time, and likewise even if you have high fate/magic potential that isn't helpful if you don't have the specific mindset brought about by female teenage hormones which allow Incubator unlocking to work in the first place.
I er, I didn't mean to put this much effort into analysing magical girl creation mechanics. Oh well.
That they're just people on the internet means they would be great candidates for sounding the theory out
Also neat plan.
[X] Raiseth
As has been pointed out, it's not like teenage girls really have stronger emotions than boys or adult women, those emotions just express more openly which could aid in some conceptual catalysing connection necessary to the magic unlocking process, compared to other demographics with more closed off/stable emotional states, which is the reason for this ease of magic unlocking.
Could also be something to do with the fact puberty is a time of great change in a humans life, and this change can be conceptually harnessed in the transformation/creation of a soul gem, though this would also apply to boys. Maybe something to do with the way boys tend to close off more meaning extracting the souls is more difficult?
Magic strength I'm also absolutely certain does not correspond to strength of emotions, as Madoka's magic strength increased due to timeloops which shouldn't have affected her mind personally at all, more evidence that the emotional state is either purely a catalyst or only part of the equation.
Personally, I believe it is fate and the future effect you could have on the world which dictates magical strength, and your emotional state which dictates if you can be unlocked, with only those who combine those two factors at a point in time having 'potential', which is why Kyubey just drugging someone with hormones into the optimal state for contracting doesn't work well; they still need high fate potential which Kyubey can't scan ahead of time, and likewise even if you have high fate/magic potential that isn't helpful if you don't have the specific mindset brought about by female teenage hormones which allow Incubator unlocking to work in the first place.
I er, I didn't mean to put this much effort into analysing magical girl creation mechanics. Oh well.
That they're just people on the internet means they would be great candidates for sounding the theory out
Also neat plan.
[X] Raiseth
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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- Russia
That they're just people on the internet means they would be great candidates for sounding the theory out
Imagine the horror of what would happen if they believed us and did the same thing, huh?
Are you ready for another braindamaged teenager plopping out in an ontologically lower world, guided only by the inscrutable will of Meguca shitposters?
Can you take on so much responsibility? So much recursion?