I kind of sympathise insofar that I've never been that interested in the Persona games and didn't enjoy the original Eva ending and this sounds like it might turn into that sort of thing.
tbh we know that its possible for homura to take other people with her when she travels through time so she actualy could meet her past self
Not awake enough yet to tackle the first part, for the second part...
Honestly, we may have, but it's been so long I completely forgot who had raised what and what the resulting discussion had been.
A complete treatment is definitely on our critical path, according to the appreciation I have developed. @Vebyast , this will help so much, in almost every conflict... Homura was not much for detailed social scheming, yet now that is on her horizon as we actualize her goal. We can thus give her tools to be capable and confident. She can start using this on our Tokyo adventure, a venue where we would rather not become expeditionary Imperialists. Only clean insight will let us pivot them into a background element we like, rather than a huge resource drag.
Not wishing to digress deeply, but this isn't factual? Presence of Soul Gem is my primary evidence. Perhaps the Gem alone is transported?
Kyuubey has no mercy, and great bias.
We should ask Homura if she's ever carried grief seeds between timelines, to see what's actually true in PMAS, rather than just arguing about headcanons.I hate to break it to you, but a Soul Gem IS your mentality...
But no, what I meant is that you overwrite yourself in the new timeline. Homura's contract will always be a decision she made and so it carries with her. In Homura's Revenge, when she grabs Madoka and loops, Madoka wakes up in her bed with all her memories. When Madoka contracts to save Homura, she declines going back with Homura a second time because she'd just be contracted in the new reality.
....which is why I argued against the headcanon of Homura having a shitload of Grief seeds in her pocket from other timelines. That's impossible. A Grief Seed is a soul, and thus it would 'wake up' where it 'should be' in the new timeline. And if the Witch wasn't a witch at the begging of the loop...
Well, Sayaka's parents would wake up to their daughter being dead and then their entire home would become a concert hall as a mermaid knight fills them with swords.
I would very much be interested in asking her about this.
its not exactly something we need to out away time for, we are talking to homura right now, we could just ask her "hey have you ever carried items or grief seeds with you when you've gone back in time?" at some point in this conversation
So, where in Homura's Revenge does she bring a grief seed with her and it causes someone to spontaneously become a witch?
No, we know that there are differences between grief seeds and soul gems. For a start, a grief seed can contain vastly more grief without exploding, and many other differences besides. The question we're trying to answer is how to resolve those differences. So if there's anything we can look into to find more points of difference between soul gems and grief seeds, then it will provide more data that can hopefully be used to generate possible solutions.
Really? I can trivially think of a way it would work differently even if there was no difference between soul gem and grief seed -- one has Homura deliberately bringing someone along with as she transitions from one timeline to another to overwrite their counterparts' minds, while for the other it's being shoved outside of time and then retrieved as-is. Or it could be that soul gems and grief seeds have some more fundamental difference that makes it so the witch and the girl aren't the same. Or any number of other ways it could work.
