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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[Q] Oh of course
-[Q] drop the lichbomb
-[Q] drop the kbomb
-[Q] drop the witchbomb
[Q] now we can go
-[Q] drop the lichbomb
-[Q] drop the kbomb
-[Q] drop the witchbomb
[Q] now we can go
She's quite literally looking down on someone, too.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
So, 'be honest with Kyouko' is one thing... but I think we can agree to not bring up the other bombs right now?
I mean, if we say we don't have anything to bring up, it wouldn't be the complete truth... but it wouldn't be a lie... just a white lie.
But really, let's just hit that witch really hard. Not in a Dissoluzione Bianca sort of hard, maybe we can practice our hammer throwing? Maybe even try to summon hammers already flying at Sufficient Velocity. If anyone would know about whether such a thing is possible, it'd be Kyouko.
I mean, if we say we don't have anything to bring up, it wouldn't be the complete truth... but it wouldn't be a lie... just a white lie.
But really, let's just hit that witch really hard. Not in a Dissoluzione Bianca sort of hard, maybe we can practice our hammer throwing? Maybe even try to summon hammers already flying at Sufficient Velocity.
If anyone would know about whether such a thing is possible, it'd be Kyouko.
Subrosian_Smithy
endless
- Location
- Washington
- Pronouns
- She/Her/Hers
Excuse me, sir, those doodles are clearly from Mami's diary, and you know we don't have the clearance to see them. I'm going to have to ask you to relinquish the goods.
hillo315
Intact but Tactless
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- Somewhere. Somewhere else.
I suggest enchanting the hammer to keep it moving at a constant speed after it's thrown. You can't go wrong with perpetual motion machines.
Timestop! Hammertime!Maybe even try to summon hammers already flying at Sufficient Velocity.
- Location
- USA
I'd agree that we shouldn't discuss them right now, but I think we should be honest about their existence.
Something like "I'm done dropping bombs for today, but there are other things which you deserve to know but are extremely tough to handle and I'm not ready to discuss those right now. Or in the near future."
She wants to end this part of the conversation so I don't think she will press immediately on what they are. Lying about their existence here would make her trust us less when we do drop anything on her.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I'm thinking phrasing that'll let her ignore any further bomb talk for the time being if she wants.
EDIT: And then I didn't do that.
[X] Let Kyouko know you might be dropping something heavy on Sayaka today, so she might have a lot on her mind on their next session.
-[X] No more bombs you want to drop right now. Another time.
[X] On the way, ask Kyouko about the possibility of summoning your magical weapon with speed, such that it would already be shooting towards an enemy as you summon it.
-[X] Tangent: After all, they're not immobile when you summon them, but already moving at incredible speds, what with Earth's rotations... and those of the Milky Way...
-[X] Maybe it's a matter of visualization. Theorically, you could just (snap fingers) will a small version of your hammer's handle to materialize shooting at something.
[X] Hit the Witch hard, but let Kyouko hit her harder. Make sure nobody gets hurt.
[X] Whenever appropriate, compliment Yuma about her new dress.
I'd like to hear what Kyouko has to say after she's got some time to think, before talking about anything else.
And I still don't know whether we want to do anything about Yuma and her grandparents.
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- U.S.A.
So does that mean Homura's shield is a literal grief case?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
By the way, remember the trick Mami used that let her keep her musket still in the air, casually blocking one of Sayaka's attacks?
I don't think I commented nor do I think I saw anybody do so, so as obvious as it sounds, do you think it has to do with hammerspace?
What if part of the musket was in hammerspace? We know that meguca can't interact with each other's hammerspace, so would it be possible to 'fix' an object in 3D space by moving it 'slightly' 4Dimentionally?
Does this even make sense? The intrincacies of 4+D escape me.
I don't think I commented nor do I think I saw anybody do so, so as obvious as it sounds, do you think it has to do with hammerspace?
What if part of the musket was in hammerspace? We know that meguca can't interact with each other's hammerspace, so would it be possible to 'fix' an object in 3D space by moving it 'slightly' 4Dimentionally?
Does this even make sense? The intrincacies of 4+D escape me.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
It shouldn't work like that? Just like it's possible to move an object left or right without moving it up and down, it should be possible to knock a spear/musket around in 3D space without moving it at all along the 4th axis, so fixing it in 4D shouldn't do anything.
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- 👁👄👁
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- She/Her/Hers
She probably used invisible ribbons of some sort to hold it in place.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Unlikely, since whatever the trick is, she was able to teach it to Kyouko.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
And said she would teach us, but I think this would amount to the same thing I said. IIRC, 'invisible' Ribbons are Ribbons going through 4D space, so whether she's holding the musket with invisible ribbons or not, she's still willing it into place through... Ribbons in 4D space... her musket is also made out od Ribbons.
I'm trying to find the quote where Mami told us that magical girls can't interact with each other's hammerspaces, which was what prompted this thought, but not luck yet...
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Found the quote, but it doesn't support what I was thinking.
End of this quote:
I wonder if what Mami is saying here is a hard rule, or just a matter of probability? If there is... hold on...
(BTW, we can probably just ask Mami how she did the thing, I know.)
What sounds kind of weird to me is this:
Also, still need to try sharing hammerspace by means of Soul Snuggling. (?)
I also found this:
*Looks at already in-motion plans to ship Sayaka and Kyouko*
I don't think anyone can really accuse us of this.
End of this quote:
Of course, by pockets she means hammerspace. We most definitely can put a Chibi of ourselves on Mami's pocket.
I wonder if what Mami is saying here is a hard rule, or just a matter of probability? If there is... hold on...
... For hammerspace, maybe the reason why meguca can't interact with each other's hammerspace is just because the chances of using the same slice of 3D space through the 4th dimension as each other is just about nil?
(BTW, we can probably just ask Mami how she did the thing, I know.)
What sounds kind of weird to me is this:
If meguca can't connect to each other's hammerspaces, how could Mami possibly place our Chibi in her hammerspace? Wouldn't the Chibi be part of us, at least as long as it actually exists, possesses our magic?
Also, still need to try sharing hammerspace by means of Soul Snuggling. (?)
I also found this:
And well.
*Looks at already in-motion plans to ship Sayaka and Kyouko*
I don't think anyone can really accuse us of this.
[jk] Kill the hunted witch with bombs made of grief
we can do this right?
we can do this right?
Script Mak3r
(Verified Sun God) (Verified Feathers)
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- Hell of Blazing Fires
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- She/Her
Sure, but you'll never get LNN if you just bomb the boss to death.
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- Illinois
Well, we do have to worry about maintaining security. Which...
A desire for extra security implies a perceived need for extra security. An implied perceived need for extra security implies a problem. A problem is something Kyouko could go "can I help you with that" on. And of course that problem is basically the Kyubey-Witchbomb which uh yeah noooo...
Part of me wants to contingency this as so:
[] Gesture at the sphere. It's best if nobody talks about your metaknowledge (don't use that word?) outside one of these. That said, it's obfuscating what you knew and what you said about it that matters.
-[] If questioned on this: not everyone you know about is as nice as Kyouko. You have problems that you can't just vaporize, so you go around with these creepy spheres hoping they help.
--[] If asked whether there's anything she can do: <More things>
But... The trouble here is, this really isn't the time to look like we're not 100% totally fine and without serious problems...
*Looks askance at Kyouko pushing debts*
So... Well, in some ways it's a catch-22. The more we harp about it the more interesting it gets for her, I think, and... We don't want that. On the other hand, we really don't want to say nothing.
The only real answer I can see is to try to nip things in the bud.
[X] Only thing -- anything involving you knowing things that you didn't have a way of knowing doesn't leave the creepy sphere.
-[X] If questioned: you really aren't prepared to get into why right now. Suffice to say that roughly nobody else is in on it either.
[X] Listen to Kyouko while hunting
-[X] Let her do the talking, mostly. Disagree with things you disagree with, agree with things you agree with, but let her do the talking.
[X] Let Kyouko take her frustrations out on the witch. Help some. Be ready to just kill it if anything bad happens.
A desire for extra security implies a perceived need for extra security. An implied perceived need for extra security implies a problem. A problem is something Kyouko could go "can I help you with that" on. And of course that problem is basically the Kyubey-Witchbomb which uh yeah noooo...
Part of me wants to contingency this as so:
[] Gesture at the sphere. It's best if nobody talks about your metaknowledge (don't use that word?) outside one of these. That said, it's obfuscating what you knew and what you said about it that matters.
-[] If questioned on this: not everyone you know about is as nice as Kyouko. You have problems that you can't just vaporize, so you go around with these creepy spheres hoping they help.
--[] If asked whether there's anything she can do: <More things>
But... The trouble here is, this really isn't the time to look like we're not 100% totally fine and without serious problems...
*Looks askance at Kyouko pushing debts*
So... Well, in some ways it's a catch-22. The more we harp about it the more interesting it gets for her, I think, and... We don't want that. On the other hand, we really don't want to say nothing.
The only real answer I can see is to try to nip things in the bud.
[X] Only thing -- anything involving you knowing things that you didn't have a way of knowing doesn't leave the creepy sphere.
-[X] If questioned: you really aren't prepared to get into why right now. Suffice to say that roughly nobody else is in on it either.
[X] Listen to Kyouko while hunting
-[X] Let her do the talking, mostly. Disagree with things you disagree with, agree with things you agree with, but let her do the talking.
[X] Let Kyouko take her frustrations out on the witch. Help some. Be ready to just kill it if anything bad happens.
hillo315
Intact but Tactless
- Location
- Somewhere. Somewhere else.
Post-Madoka, yes.So does that mean Homura's shield is a literal grief case?
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
So-miniscule-they're-invisible chains
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
On the subject of grief case versus emotional baggage...
A briefcase is portable, handy and easy to carry.
Baggage tends to imply unwieldy amounts.
So while Sabrina may be carrying around a griefcase of issues, most other girls are saddled with baggage.
A briefcase is portable, handy and easy to carry.
Baggage tends to imply unwieldy amounts.
So while Sabrina may be carrying around a griefcase of issues, most other girls are saddled with baggage.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
By the way, there's something we might want to tell Kazumi next time.
At the start of Kazumi Magica, there was a guy trying to bomb a mall. He is foiled by plot demanded serendipity, as his bomb gets mixed up with a Kazumi.
Later on, it turns out the bomb was a fake a police woman had set him up with in order to catch him and feed her own rep, but that's another matter.
This guy regrets his actions thanks to Kazumi, who vouches for him being a good guy despite the whole bomb thing, and the guy becomes a friend and supporting character.
May be a neat little mission for Kazumi, to track down and befriend this guy before he tries his hand at terrorism?
At the start of Kazumi Magica, there was a guy trying to bomb a mall. He is foiled by plot demanded serendipity, as his bomb gets mixed up with a Kazumi.
Later on, it turns out the bomb was a fake a police woman had set him up with in order to catch him and feed her own rep, but that's another matter.
This guy regrets his actions thanks to Kazumi, who vouches for him being a good guy despite the whole bomb thing, and the guy becomes a friend and supporting character.
May be a neat little mission for Kazumi, to track down and befriend this guy before he tries his hand at terrorism?
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- 👁👄👁
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- She/Her/Hers
[X] Kaizuki