Hrmm.
S: *Hands Madoka the Culture Series books*
M: What's this Sabrina?
S: Wishing is bad but should you feel the need...

--300 years later--

A pink soul gem the size of a small moon flew through the emptiness of space with the Designation 'Damn it Sabrina' emblazoned clearly on it's side.
 
Quick side-trip from the "things to tell/not tell Madoka about the Dangers Of Contracting" discussion thing, but also, with regard to Tokyo, did we intend to poke around and figure out who gave Rionna information about us? Less because they shouldn't be doing that (considering our general outreach plans) and more with regard to, someone who knew Riona might be coming and might get the wrong impression if she doesn't come back into communication in the near future? Just 'cos I think this is something that could become a pretty unfortunate game of telephone until it gets to Tokyo's meguca council's ears even without Kyubey deliberately making our lives difficult.

I dunno if that's something to deal with any time in the near future- I mean certainly not tonight- but just in general, was that in our plans?
 
Quick side-trip from the "things to tell/not tell Madoka about the Dangers Of Contracting" discussion thing, but also, with regard to Tokyo, did we intend to poke around and figure out who gave Rionna information about us? Less because they shouldn't be doing that (considering our general outreach plans) and more with regard to, someone who knew Riona might be coming and might get the wrong impression if she doesn't come back into communication in the near future? Just 'cos I think this is something that could become a pretty unfortunate game of telephone until it gets to Tokyo's meguca council's ears even without Kyubey deliberately making our lives difficult.

I dunno if that's something to deal with any time in the near future- I mean certainly not tonight- but just in general, was that in our plans?
This is what we got:

"Leaving that entirely unsettling statement aside for now until I process it," you say. "How did you hear about me?"

Rionna shrugs, squinting at the inside of her flask. "Been in Tokyo before, know a couple o' girls there."

Everyone at Tokyo knows about us by now, or at least the Council does, so the implying implication is that Riona's Social enough to keep contacts who'd tell her about Important Stuff.

Of course, this only if we take Riona's word for it.
 
This is what we got:



Everyone at Tokyo knows about us by now, or at least the Council does, so the implying implication is that Riona's Social enough to keep contacts who'd tell her about Important Stuff.

Of course, this only if we take Riona's word for it.

I'm meaning more the question of, are we going to try and track down Rionna's hypothetical contacts to

a) see if they are in fact actual contacts or if Riona heard about us somewhere else or murderlyzed someone for the intel or something, and

b) to make sure Rionna's contacts, if they exist, don't come to unpleasant conclusions about them telling Riona about us and her not resurfacing after a visit, and then tell those unpleasant conclusions (possibly after a game of blow-it-out-of-proportion-telephone) to Tokyo Council (and thus make it harder to negotiate with them when we're later in a position to do so).
 
I'm meaning more the question of, are we going to try and track down Rionna's hypothetical contacts to

a) see if they are in fact actual contacts or if Riona heard about us somewhere else or murderlyzed someone for the intel or something, and

b) to make sure Rionna's contacts, if they exist, don't come to unpleasant conclusions about them telling Riona about us and her not resurfacing after a visit, and then tell those unpleasant conclusions (possibly after a game of blow-it-out-of-proportion-telephone) to Tokyo Council (and thus make it harder to negotiate with them when we're later in a position to do so).
I think we're coming back around to the question of what to do, PR wise. We're gonna be talking with Nadia about this right now, so we can make decisions next round, I think.

Personally, I would like to put the word out that Riona's batshit and we're putting her in our New Ethical Prison*... as soon as such prison exists, at least.

I don't doubt there'll be backlash, and we probably don't have a huge window of time to put out our own spin on the situation before KB poisons the maximum amount of ears it'll be capable to.

*Which totally should be Brina Prison for obvious reasons such as the 100% reform rate its methods guarantee.
 
Are we? I don't think any of the votes have anything other than Mami Confession Phase 2.
*Brief moment of doubting own memory*

Here:

Kaizuki said:
It would (have?) make an immense amount of sense to carry out telepathy with Nadia, Niko, and Kazumi on the way home, at the same time as dropping off Sayaka and Homura, and to subsequently do this stuff at home.

@Firnagzen, I'm going to poke you on this. I think everyone ever can agree that we should telepathy and fill in Nadia, Niko, and Kazumi at some point, preferably now. Can we get a micro-update on that, set during the travel after departing from Oriko's place, and then run this?
I'll just roll it into the update.
 
Happy Thanksgiving popup? Anyone else?

Also, how are we going to structure Brina Prison. Needs to be big, comfy, and well monitored.

Also needs to fit in in Mitakihara.
 
Happy Thanksgiving popup? Anyone else?

Also, how are we going to structure Brina Prison. Needs to be big, comfy, and well monitored.

Also needs to fit in in Mitakihara.
Do you... think anyone in Mitakihara would think it weird if we shape the building in the image of Sabrina about to hug someone?

:V

Since it'd be a meguca prison, some of the main concerns will have to do with the threat the inmates pose, how to house their Soul Gems, getting enough mental professional capacitated to work with meguca... contacting families, maybe?

I guess one of the first things we might want to consider for Brina Prison... is that it shouldn't look like a "prison". It should be... a place. One where good things happen, good things are made, somewhere where good people can be and somewhere from which good people will come out.

I guess a possibilty, for starters, would be not calling it a prison, but something else. Rehabilitation something something, to be cliched.

There'd be... quite a lot of thought that'd need to go into this. But random idea: The monitoring should be such that it should be able to catch KB. Unauthorized telepathy should be blocked. KB needs to be blocked off from the inmates.

Genius.

Brina Prison should be right besides The Best Exotic Mamigold Hotel!
 
Our new " Joyful Life Research Institute " {ehem, prison, ehmnm} could be cheerfully named?

The Pillow Fort
My Room
Rainbow Meadows
Understanding
Old Home *(thanks, Abe-san)
Long Conversation
Hugland
Time Out
The Library

Or we could go for a darker vibe?

Ice Cream Land

Or the Darkest vibe?

I guess one of the first things we might want to consider for Brina Prison... is that it shouldn't look like a "prison". --- It should be... a place ... from which good people will come out.----
,
So we call it Mordor.


We know where to find a volcano with occupancy.

Way to up the deterrence value?
The same institution and morality, no matter what we decide. Think hard about it none the less! Names are important.
 
Happy Thanksgiving popup? Anyone else?

Also, how are we going to structure Brina Prison. Needs to be big, comfy, and well monitored.

Also needs to fit in in Mitakihara.
The starting point for "what makes our ideal reform institution" ought to be an ideal. Sometimes, magic upends human economics, it is a thing we have to try in order to measure. Prison was invented to minimize the costs to society for a given form of incarceration. Our budget might allow more effort in the later stages of integration with the consensus culture.

The ideal I see is a framework that removes the hazard of violence from the inmate, and continuously exercises them in an environment of relevant positive reward scenarios.
Our goal is to change behavior. If they reliably change their behavior, location isn't an issue.
Anti-magic, and whatever follow-on techniques we invent, can de-power the inmate and provide many of the basic monitoring functions we would need to be effective. For those who force that requirement, we can make this active-check-in, or passive sensor type. Magic lets us sense in a way that extends this to real utility. This means we don't have to have a giant stone building, unless we want one. The 'parole officer' role becomes very central and active in this sort of distributed system, and the only limiting resource our intellect needs to conserve is therapist hours. That might be where teleportation comes into the picture? Any parolee we set into work-life reform can have a door added to their living space. From that door, they can go directly into the lobby of the appointments we need them to keep. This provides superior schedule filling, and acts as a safety mechanism for the parolee. Putting trained help literally a few steps away should be a kind and good thing to help them complete the therapy. And yet, we don't create a neighborhood filled with problem girls, they have plenty of muggles in between them.

The timing of the Holiday pop-up is obviously a feature of our Enrichment Program.
 
Hmm, but wouldn't one of the major issues with Brina Prison simply be making sure the girls (and rare boy) legitimately reformed? Because if their options are "BS a total life epiphany" or "be trapped here forever"... I hated stress centers as a kid because I legitimately refused to believe I did anything wrong.

I still have bit of a complex, and having people just repeatedly going "You're completely wrong in every way and you should feel bad for not doing everything I say"... At least some of those meguca are gonna leave with resentment or imprisonment complexes.
 
Hmm, but wouldn't one of the major issues with Brina Prison simply be making sure the girls (and rare boy) legitimately reformed? Because if their options are "BS a total life epiphany" or "be trapped here forever"... I hated stress centers as a kid because I legitimately refused to believe I did anything wrong.

I still have bit of a complex, and having people just repeatedly going "You're completely wrong in every way and you should feel bad for not doing everything I say"... At least some of those meguca are gonna leave with resentment or imprisonment complexes.
We hopefully can get actually good psychotherapists capable of working with their patients effectively.

I don't know a lot, but there shouldn't be people telling the meguca thery're wrong. That's... ignorant, at best.

The first step of psychotherapy as I've read the little I know about it, is creating a strong emotional bond of trust with the patient.

Basically, Erikson's model details the first great achievement in a person's life is obtaining a feeling of fundamental trust (and hope), which is the foundation on which each major achievement will be based on afterwards... And the therapists need to do the same. They need to connect with their patients, create this bond of trust and then work together with their patient to help them analyze each stage of their lives.

There should be pretty much literally no telling them they did things wrong. The patients need to realize they did something wrong by themselves, with the aid and guide of a learned professional who they feel they can trust.

It's... really... complicated... stuff. And there's many professionals who don't really know their shit*, as there are others who do.

(*I'm remembering a blog post I saw a few years ago that described japanese university psychology courses where they actually taught to the aspirant psychologists that they should just act as a sounding board for their patient's woes and just nod along with their complaints, no matter how far-fetched and wrong, and tell them they're right. No actualy psychology involved, just being yes-men and yes-women.)

(Also, I'm thinking about poor Homu and how likely it is she didn't have such strong foundational emotional bases in her life. :( )
 
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Point Insertion pt. 30
Just you and Mami, ghosting over the late evening Mitakihara. It's fully night now, the city glowing with life. Threads of light wind through the streets, the never-ending pulse of the city circulating.

You cuddle a little closer to Mami, sinking into her arms as she hugs you, and you savour the sensation of being with her. She's made your life better, just by being a part of it. And... when you think about it, you're not really sure you've told her all that before.

You can change that.

But for now, you have... one last conversation to get to before you arrive home, just to clear the air. Just to clear it out, and focus on your time with Mami.

"Nadia?" you call, casting the telepathic message.

It takes a few minutes for Nadia to respond, which you occupy by letting yourself sink deeper into Mami's embrace, snuggling closer to her.

"Sabrina?" Nadia says. "What is happening?"

"I met with Rionna," you say. "Or rather, she met us."

"Ah, good," Nadia responds. "I was not sure, I had not heard she was travelling besides what you said."

"Except, well..." you say, trying not to grimace. "She... I don't know. It seems like she might have come to kill me for being a Grief Controller."

"... I have not heard of this," Nadia says, voice turning sharp. "What happened?"

"Well-" For the fourth time in less than an hour, you go over what happened with Rionna. Nadia's silent as she listens, only responding when you prompt her to make sure she's still there. And finally, as you draw to the end of the explanation, she sighs.

"I apologise," she says. "I did not know. I did not... she seemed pleasant enough when I met her. Rude, but pleased to have me over."

She pauses, seeming to think it over. "I did not know she was coming. She is not known to leave Edinburgh, fimti? And she did not say either, when she was going down to Mitakihara. If she does not, and her visits are not common... I did not know. I am sorry."

"I'm not blaming you," you say with a mental sigh. Something twinges at your mind. Wouldn't Rionna have left witnesses behind? Other magical girls, who she didn't kill and enslave. Hopefully. "Just... updating you. And... there's going to be PR fallout of this, isn't there? For attacking her? Do you have any idea how I might deal with it?"

But then again, her powers would be uniquely suited to simply making individual magical girls simply disappear from right under the noses of others. You suppress a shudder, but not before Mami notices. She peers down at you, concerned.

"I'm OK," you tell Mami with a soft smile. "Just keeping Nadia updated, that's all."

"Alright," Mami says, returning the smile. She returns to playing with your hair.

"Be honest about it," Nadia says. "It is what I will do. You do not want to let her kind stand. So, you did something. If someone is afraid of you for that, then that is their problem."

"I don't want to scare people off from coming to Mitakihara, especially if they're in need," you say. "And I don't want people coming after me because of rumours that I take down people at my own whims."

"Hah!" Nadia snorts. "That is not a concern. The fact that you do not automatically attack people already sets you apart, fimti? Welcoming people? A rarity, if people are in need or want to come, they will. This will not scare them, and if they want to attack to steal you away, this may persuade them otherwise."

"I... that's fair," you say, hesitating for a second. You're not sure whether you should bring up Kyuubey stirring shit up, but this is something that -unlike Rionna- she must be well aware of. "Is there anything I should do?"

"No?" Nadia says. You can hear the audible shrug in her voice. "It is not like there is a press for you to give a statement to, fimti?"

"... yeah, that's true," you say. "Thanks, Nadia."

"You are welcome," Nadia says. "I apologise for the poor information."

She disconnects, and you sigh. Mami's fingers pause for a moment in your hair, giving you another look - but then, she's always been able to read your emotions even when you try to hide them.

"No, it's nothing, just... well, Nadia," you say. "I mean, I guess I can't blame her for not being omniscient, but still. If I'd known ahead of time..."

"It would have saved a lot of trouble, had we known," Mami agrees. "I'm sorry."

"Don't be ridiculous, Mami," you say, smiling up at her. The wind sets her hair whipping out, framing her face with a soft, golden halo lit by the glow of the city below. "You are not at all at fault."

"I'm sorry you had to go through it," Mami says, shaking her head. "And I'm-" She bites her lip.

"Mami?" you prompt, sitting up properly to look at her.

She giggles faintly. "I was... I was going to apologise that I couldn't help more," she says. "But I realised that you wouldn't accept it."

"Damn right I wouldn't," you say, smiling and relaxing back into her embrace.

Mami huffs, and wraps her arms a little tighter around your midsection. The conversation lapses into a comfortable silence as you head home. Home with Mami, home to Mami's apartment, the two of you descending the steps at a rapid trot. You shuck your shoes and lock the door behind you, barely an afterthought, before flopping face down on the sofa.

There are still dishes soaking in the sink, but you don't really care right now.

"Geh," you grumble, feeling the cushion depress as Mami sits next to you. She gently lifts your head and slides over so that your head is resting on her lap. "Mmrm."

"How are you?" she asks quietly.

You roll over so that you're face-up, and smile at her. "Better. Tired, but... better. Thank you, Mami."

"I didn't do much," Mami says, returning the smile, soft and warm.

"I..." you pull yourself upright, one hand on the back of the sofa, and shift so that you're facing Mami properly. You take a breath, and smile at her. "Mami, I've been thinking. Or, well, the pendant, the things you've said about what I've done for you... it got me thinking."

"I... I understand what I've done for you, I think," you say quietly, and pull Mami into a hug. "And I like to think I understand some of what... what it means to you, the importance of all of it. 'I'm not alone anymore', as you said. I... hope it isn't too arrogant to say that I filled a, a void in your heart?"

"No," Mami murmurs, wrapping her arms around you and leaning into the hug. "No, not in the slightest, Sabrina. You have. You absolutely have."

"I... well, I know it's not a, a small thing," you say. "I know you think that it's a lot, even, but as much as it is, I think of the two of us as being even on this kind of thing. I know I haven't really elaborated or expressed myself well on why or how, but I..."

You smile softly at Mami, pressing a gentle finger to her lips before she can speak.

"You've done as much for me as I've done for you," you say. "You really have. I've done a poor job of telling you that. I've been leaning on the easy things, like... thanking you for taking me in, or simply telling you that, but none of it is really sufficient to convey what I want to. And I could never truly find the words to really tell you what I wanted to."

"I..." Mami's eyes are huge. She swallows, eyes huge as she stares at you. "I didn't... I haven't done that much."

You take her hands between yours, running your fingers over the soft, delicate skin that belies so much strength. She turns her hand over and closes her fingers over yours, squeezing gently.

"I never really could tell you, but... I said something once. I didn't know we'd get along so well. I didn't know we could be friends," you murmur, and smile at Mami. "Do you remember that?"

"I remember," Mami responds, her breath hitching slightly. "It was when you... I... remember."

You hug her. When you told her about yourself, how you woke up knowing about her.

"Sabrina, I..." Mami swallows, looking up at you and smiling. "I trust you. You've... given me everything. I trust you."

"I know," you murmur softly. "And I'm sorry I hurt you, then and now. But... what I said back then? It wasn't really accurate." You smile at her, gentle and warm, and speak before she can. "Not the fact that I'm your friend - I am, Mami, now and always."

"But I always knew you could and would have friends," you say, smiling ruefully and shaking your head. "In an... abstract sense, you know. 'Mami can and should have friends.' But me... I was here to fix things. I had a purpose, I suppose, when I woke up. Do the right things, get everyone their happy endings. Put an end to all the horrible things happening."

"I..." Mami swallows, curling up against your side and wrapping her arms fully around your waist. "That's not how it should be. You should have more than that."

"That's just it," you say with a smile for Mami. "I never thought that I would have a life outside that mission. I just never really thought about it. And it was just the little things, at first. Having someone around who didn't mind my silliness, you know? The Portal theme, breakfast together, Mecha Godzilla Gurren Lagann, that kind of thing."

You squeeze her hand gently. "But it became more than that. I realised I could have you as a friend, and I realised I wanted to have you as my friend. To know you better, to spend time with you, not because I wanted to fix things, but because I wanted your friendship, because I enjoyed spending time with you."

Mami swallows, her eyes huge, following your every motion, every word. But you can see the growing joy in her gaze, the way she wraps herself around you, arms around your waist and leg thrown across yours. Not the deathgrip of fear that you might leave her, but because she wants to be close to you - and you're clinging to her just as much as she is to you.

"You make me happy," you murmur. "You make me happy, and I have a life now, and I want you as part of my life. Now and always." You smile softly. "And that I found out any of this, Mami? That's thanks to you."

"Sabrina, I..." Mami swallows. "I don't know what to say."

You smile, and lean into her embrace, tucking your chin against the crook of her neck. "And that's fine. I didn't... I didn't have the words for this, couldn't put it together until now. But it's... it's what you've done for me, you know?"

"You've given me everything, Sabrina," Mami murmurs quietly. Her breath disturbs the hair over your shoulder. "I... I know I said that already, but you have. I never thought I'd be here today, with friends all around me, talking to my old student again... I never thought I'd have someone like you with me. And it's everything."

You exhale slowly, still nestling against her.

"There's been... an image burned into my mind, from the very start," you say thoughtfully. "And... this is a non-sequitur, but I was thinking about it. Of me. Alone, wandering the universe, and... someone asking me if I didn't want to stop, whether I didn't want to settle down with my friends. With everyone else. And there... I said no. It was a success. Everyone else was happy, and I would continue my job, my mission. Sad, but... everyone was happy. That's all I could ask for."

"That's not-" Mami pulls back from the hug, something like horror stealing across her gaze. "That's not right."

You smile at her, taking her hand and twining your fingers together.

"Not any more," you say, meeting her eyes squarely. "All I had, back then, was a mission. Now I have you, and that's not something I'm willing to give up. That's what you've done for me, Mami. It's not as... dramatic as what I did for you, but no less life-changing."

You shake your head, hair flying. "I understand why you still worry that I might leave you. But it's not going to happen. Not as long as you'll have me. Someone would have to force me to, because I have a life now, and I want you in it."

"I..." Mami takes a quick, shivering breath. "Always, Sabrina. I'll always want you. Always."

"Thank you," you murmur. "I... I don't want to be alone, either." You pull Mami into a tight, crushing hug, and she reciprocates, arms wrapping around your back as if she'll never let go.

[] Relax for the rest of the night
- [] Homework for Mami!
- [] Enchanting practice for yourself?
- [] Ask about Mami's enchantment for the pendant
- [] Something else?
[x] Breakfast with Mami
- [] Good morning Mitakihara!
-- [] Any topics to hit?
[x] Shopping with Homura in the morning
[] Call up Nagisa, it's been a while!
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)


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Again, slightly later than expected, but... better late than never?
 
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\o/

Agh. Feelings. What is this.

Is this the first time we got an important conversation with Mami that goesn't go downhill before going uphill? It's nice.

"Hah!" Nadia snorts. "That is not a concern. The fact that you do not automatically attack people already sets you apart, fimti? Welcoming people? A rarity, if people are in need or want to come, they will. This will not scare them, and if they want to attack to steal you away, this may persuade them otherwise."

Slighly less grand \o/ for this, too. Nadia should know, so we should be in the clear. At most, we can go and tell the Tokyo Council and such what we did, just to make sure the word is out. They'll gossip the hell out of this in our stead. :p


[] Call up Nagisa, it's been a while!

Plz.
 
Hmmm.

Hmmmmm.


[x] Relax for the rest of the night
- [x] Homework for Mami!
- [x] Enchanting practice for yourself?
-- [x] Keep trying to make something that can contain grief outside of your direct control range.
- [x] Ask about Mami's enchantment for the pendant

[x] Breakfast with Mami
- [x] Good morning Mitakihara!
-- [x] You want to contact some other Japanese meguca groups. Fukushima and the University Group might have some useful info.

[x] Call up Nagisa, it's been a while!

[x] Go shopping with Homura in the morning!



"All of the above" seems fine to me. :p
 
Again, slightly later than expected, but... better late than never?
"An update is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to."

"All of the above" seems fine to me. :p
Very wise.

I don't think I'll be worrying too much about this round either, unless something somehow goes unexpectedly wrong in an unexpected way.

[X] Redshirt Army

Firnagzen said:
"No?" Nadia says. You can hear the audible shrug in her voice. "It is not like there is a press for you to give a statement to, fimti?"

[Q] "Fuck you, I'm making a press and giving a statement."
-[Q] "How would you like a job as a newspaper girl?"
 
Yeeeeeeeees :D

Good to see Mami understands just how attached Sabrina is to her at this point. Only obstacle, how to proceed while ensnared in everlasting Mumi hugs.
 
I had a thought: some of the incoming refugees might have the same inclinations as Nadia. Girls that have wanderlust, not willing put down roots in Mitakihara (or nearby).

I wonder if we can form a traveling meguca team, one that's possibly led by Nadia (if she's willing and able)? Nadia's a capable meguca but there's always safety in numbers, and more would dare to ambush a powerful solo meguca even like her once word gets out that she's carrying a clear seed.

It's primary purpose would be to continue what Nadia's doing (HUMINT/PR), but in times of emergency they can also be the first responders to any local disasters before calling us in.
 
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