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Ralathon said:
Combine that with her comment that her city is safe, and the paranoid parts of my brain conjure up an army of soulless slaves defending the city.
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My thought is rather the opposite - she steals souls, presumably from soul gems. Witches can be seen as mad souls with unbound magic.
She's not got an army of zombies... she's got an army of mind-controlled (presumably) somewhat-nerfed witches.
 
blast flame said:
If she really was planning on stealing our soul she wouldn't have just admitted it.
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Be careful not to overestimate the amount of premeditation. Most criminals are dumb and impulsive (there are people who get arrested after writing about their crimes on facebook) so just because someone is joking about attacking us doesn't mean they won't decide to do it in the future. I don't think this describes Rion+a, since if she was that impulsive even her powers wouldn't be enough to win every fight, but it's not certain.
Dantalion said:
My thought is rather the opposite - she steals souls, presumably from soul gems. Witches can be seen as mad souls with unbound magic.
She's not got an army of zombies... she's got an army of mind-controlled (presumably) somewhat-nerfed witches.
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She apparently thinks the fake grief controllers deserved (whatever she did to them) for hastening other girls witchouts, so I don't think she would do something like this. I would assume she just killed them.
 
Army of soul slaves maybe?

That or her reputation scares people.

Also not like we wouldn't do horrible things with our powers if it came down to it.

Trusting her is academic at the moment. We need her input on several projects and have no where else to turn to.

We don't have to trust her to work with her. Trust can come later. So, we should inform her of the ofacts that can't be used against us (which are almost all of them) and be watchful and look out for backstabs.
 
Ah, now I'm finally convinced. Riona is worse than us at Social. Just by one comment she's made us wary, distrustful and slightly fearful of her.

Just another argument in support of my theory that Riona is SpaceBattles.
 
Skelm said:
She apparently thinks the fake grief controllers deserved (whatever she did to them) for hastening other girls witchouts, so I don't think she would do something like this. I would assume she just killed them.
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I'm not saying she witches other girls out. I'm saying that the result of her taking a meguca's soul is likely to be metaphysically similar to a witch. I make no claims as to the sapience of the result.
Although another way those results could manifest is Walpurgisnacht's psuedo-meguca familiars...
 
As long as magical girls don't come to Edinburgh, there will be no witches there. Maybe she did large-scale soul manipulation to make sure they're aren't even any potentials.
 
Man, you all think she has some Baller powers.

I mean I am sure she does but. Mass soul manipulation. Witch control. Potential manipulation. Ect.

She probably didnt wish directly for high fidelity magic control like we did.
 
Raiseth said:
Ah, now I'm finally convinced. Riona is worse than us at Social. Just by one comment she's made us wary, distrustful and slightly fearful of her.

Just another argument in support of my theory that Riona is SpaceBattles.
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This seems like a good time to mention that first and last initials of Riona Mag Aoidh are both one less than "SB"
 
Riona sure is charming. It's understandable, since she probably learned what exactly being a magical girl is all about fairly eary due to her powers and chasing potential grief benders, only to have them turn out to be fakes, must be horrible, but she could at least try to be friendly.
 
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"Do you know what I mean when I refer to those facts?"
"Be hard for me to not know. Why d'ye think I came here? It surely wasn't for your acquaintance."

"You left your city behind and flew halfway across the world on a... rumour of my existence?"
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After we've thouroughly implied she's naive...
Raiseth said:
Ah, now I'm finally convinced. Riona is worse than us at Social.
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I disagree.

Anann said:
potential to aggressively befriend back into compliance if they misuse them. It's possible Rionna represents the first time we'd be giving out an extremely powerful weapon to someone beyond our influence
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While strategically sound, only working with those you can subdue if necessary is villain 101: Minions, not friends. If we want Riona to trust us, we'll have to pay in advance by trusting her to at least be sane. Keep in mind that, without her, I doubt we'll get de-witching or grief-cubes viable.
@Anann, sorry I draw on your post to make a point for others...

I'd vote we tell her our theory that we were created from a wish that 'everything can be fixed' (no mention of who, where, when) and we thus have unusual potential.
As to creation ex nihilo versus based on a witch - how does it matter? We are what we are. Even if we once were UKG or Walpurgisnacht, now we're the fundamentally different proto-Dedolere.
 
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Hmm. I'm not sure I trust Riona to run off with a Clear Seed just yet, but frankly, that's immaterial. She's got one of the possible missing pieces to fixing things, so now's when we start bargaining for her assistance.

[ ] Working to share cleansing is essentially your primary goal at the moment.
-[ ] Briefly explain what Clear Seeds are... and your dissatisfaction with them as a long term solution, given their use still relies on dumping grief into souls.
--[ ] You've looked into alternatives, but so far nothing promising.
-[ ] With your unique power, you're hoping dewitching might be possible. It's a secondary goal, at the moment.
--[ ] Show Hildegarde, ask for her professional opinion as a soul manipulator. Emphasize that you know dewitching studies need to be done slowly and carefully.

[ ] As long as she stays in the area, and doesn't shit stir, you'll provide free cleansing. Explain your offer to refugees and sharing of Clear Seeds with trusted groups for free.
-[ ] If you trusted her not to abuse it, you'd give her a Clear Seed, too. Drawing your ire is a bigger deterrent in Japan than it is in Scotland, though. Can you trust her?

[ ] Ask if she's willing to help with your goals. The help of a soul manipulator would be very helpful for obvious reasons. Negotiate payment, if necessary.
-[ ] If she's unwilling to stay long term, share that you have a power copier on staff. Offer to compensate her for a copy of her power and some instruction for Sayaka on how to use it.

First draft.
 
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[x] I'd love to be able to give people my powers, but the best I've got so far is clear seeds, and since I'm also working on de-witching, that's a stopgap at best.
 
Nachtigall said:
While strategically sound, only working with those you can subdue if necessary is villain 101: Minions, not friends. If we want Riona to trust us, we'll have to pay in advance by trusting her to at least be sane. Keep in mind that, without her, I doubt we'll get de-witching or grief-cubes viable.
@Anann, sorry I draw on your post to make a point for others...
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Quite alright, and I think I mostly agree with you anyway: sooner or later we're going to have to trust someone in Europe, in China, in India, in the Americas, and so on and so on to not just use clear seeds responsibly themselves, but to make judgement calls on other meguca to distribute them to. I'm just not sure if that someone should be Rionna, and I'm not sure 'she's here now, and doesn't seem immediately hostile or murderous' is sufficient reason to make that decision yet. But then again, how long do we wait? Chances are there are at least half a dozen magical girls around the world who have witched out from lack of greef sids that we could have saved if we'd been more aggressive with outreach, recruitment and distribution. Great power, great responsibility and all that. It's a dilemma.
 
Anann said:
Quite alright, and I think I mostly agree with you anyway: sooner or later we're going to have to trust someone in Europe, in China, in India, in the Americas, and so on and so on to not just use clear seeds responsibly themselves, but to make judgement calls on other meguca to distribute them to. I'm just not sure if that someone should be Rionna, and I'm not sure 'she's here now, and doesn't seem immediately hostile or murderous' is sufficient reason to make that decision yet. But then again, how long do we wait? Chances are there are at least half a dozen magical girls around the world who have witched out from lack of greef sids that we could have saved if we'd been more aggressive with outreach, recruitment and distribution. Great power, great responsibility and all that. It's a dilemma.
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I think the main question here is whether or not Rionna will help with distribution.
 
We might want to hook her up with two clear seeds if she's not planning on hanging around, so she has one to poke without jeopardizing her magic supply.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Hmm. I'm not sure I trust Riona to run off with a Clear Seed just yet, but frankly, that's immaterial. She's got one of the possible missing pieces to fixing things, so now's when we start bargaining for her assistance.

[ ] Working to share cleansing is essentially your primary goal at the moment.
-[ ] Briefly explain what Clear Seeds are... and your dissatisfaction with them as a long term solution, given their use still relies on dumping grief into souls.
--[ ] You've looked into alternatives, but so far nothing promising.
-[ ] With your unique power, you're hoping dewitching might be possible. It's a secondary goal, at the moment.
--[ ] Show Hildegarde, ask for her professional opinion as a soul manipulator. Emphasize that you know dewitching studies need to be done slowly and carefully.

[ ] As long as she stays in the area, and doesn't shit stir, you'll provide free cleansing. Explain your offer to refugees and sharing of Clear Seeds with trusted groups for free.
-[ ] If you trusted her not to abuse it, you'd give her a Clear Seed, too. Drawing your ire is a bigger deterrent in Japan than it is in Scotland, though. Can you trust her?

[ ] Ask if she's willing to help with your goals. The help of a soul manipulator would be very helpful for obvious reasons. Negotiate payment, if necessary.
-[ ] If she's unwilling to stay long term, share that you have a power copier on staff. Offer to compensate her for a copy of her power and some instruction for Sayaka on how to use it.

First draft.
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Also mention putting hope into the clear seeds.
 
Anann said:
Hi all! Long time reader, first time poster.
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Fresh old meat!

... no, doesn't sound well.

Nachtigall said:
I'd vote we tell her our theory that we were created from a wish that 'everything can be fixed' (no mention of who, where, when) and we thus have unusual potential.
As to creation ex nihilo versus based on a witch - how does it matter? We are what we are. Even if we once were UKG or Walpurgisnacht, now we're the fundamentally different proto-Dedolere.
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In that case just mention about being created from a wish, in turn diverting the attention from "who could have made that wish"

Redshirt Army said:
[ ] Working to share cleansing is essentially your primary goal at the moment.
-[ ] Briefly explain what Clear Seeds are... and your dissatisfaction with them as a long term solution, given their use still relies on dumping grief into souls.
--[ ] You've looked into alternatives, but so far nothing promising.
-[ ] With your unique power, you're hoping dewitching might be possible. It's a secondary goal, at the moment.
--[ ] Show Hildegarde, ask for her professional opinion as a soul manipulator. Emphasize that you know dewitching studies need to be done slowly and carefully.
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Nitpick or weird preference of mine, I'd like to start that block with showing the clear seed (which one? both?), just to evaluate Rion+a's reaction.
 
[ ] Working to share cleansing is essentially your primary goal at the moment.
-[ ] Briefly explain what Clear Seeds are... and your dissatisfaction with them as a long term solution, given their use still relies on dumping grief into souls.
--[ ] You've looked into alternatives, but so far nothing promising.
-[ ] With your unique power, you're hoping dewitching might be possible. It's a secondary goal, at the moment.
--[ ] Show Hildegarde and Aurora, explain what you did. Ask for her professional opinion as a soul manipulator. Emphasize that you know dewitching studies need to be done slowly and carefully.

[ ] As long as she stays in the area, and doesn't shit stir, you'll provide free cleansing. Explain your offer to refugees and sharing of Clear Seeds with trusted groups for free.
-[ ] If you trusted her not to abuse it, you'd give her a Clear Seed, too. Drawing your ire is a bigger deterrent in Japan than it is in Scotland, though. Can you trust her?

[ ] Ask if she's willing to help with your goals. The help of a soul manipulator would be very helpful for obvious reasons. Negotiate payment, if necessary.
-[ ] If she's unwilling to stay long term, share that you have a power copier on staff. Offer to compensate her for a copy of her power and some instruction for Sayaka on how to use it.
 
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