- Location
- Illinois
If Riona isn't aware of the witchbomb she needs to be given that awareness, man. She's a soulguca, if she doesn't know she is going to find out eventually.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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If Riona isn't aware of the witchbomb she needs to be given that awareness, man. She's a soulguca, if she doesn't know she is going to find out eventually.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Not in those words. We did say that since amnesia doesn't work that way, and with our special knowledge, that magic was definitely involved in our situation... and that we might not have a past.
I did mean in general, rather than for her specifically. But yeah, that gets to my next point, which is that it's worse to give someone information that could lead to them figuring out the witchbomb on their own time than to tell them directly, unless it's someone we can watch 24/7 (i.e. Mami).
- Location
- Illinois
If she doesn't know we ought to up and tell her lol
blessed encyclopedia of PMAS, this catgirl thanks you for your assistance.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Don't want to be that guy, but I think this is the closest we got to telling people we might have been created whole cloth:
Close enough?
These the other two instances I found of us talking about our past:
This the same post as before/metabombing Madoka:
This while metabombing Sayaka and Hitomi:
EDIT: Did a more thorough search, no new results.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Found it.
mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
I'm meaning we can reply with "Some people don't seem to keep it in mind when they run around using magic willy-nilly" and things like that. Because, re: Ono. Some people don't.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Even when we don't witchbomb somebody, we do generally let people know that if their gem goes dark, they die. So if somebody doesn't know at least that much, then we're probably going to be telling them. Otherwise there's a risk that they'll pull a Sayaka and commit suicide by lack of cleansing.
- Location
- California
I mean technically, we could actually have a past before we woke up in the alley, even if we were made by a wish, what with us not waking up on loop start, our weird injuries, and us being in an alley.
Maybe we should ask Madoka/Sayaka/maybe Kyubey how they found us?
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I you ask Sayaka, she'll tell you we threw up all over her.
- Location
- USA, Midworld world line
I'm not sure I want us to fight evil with evil. That is, trying to lawyer our way forward, just like the Incubators. Been thinking about this, since all of you are talking. No solution to report yet, but I want a different broad option. If you really want to lawyer it, this might be better?
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"Filling her Soul Gem with Grief is the end for a Magical Girl. Am I right?"
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This is about as wizardly as I could get it. Consider this very carefully, perhaps it is optimal?
Weird injuries are similar to the symptoms of perforated / ruptured bowel. Including the blackouts. Cause not implied, however.
I understand it thematically as the residue of assembling us under adverse conditions.
We just don't have a causal, linear biography as history. Perhaps as components, Sabrina might have a history, just not as a particular girl. Similar issue: What is the past existence of Captain Planet, before the rings are joined? Oh, crossover fanart potential there...
- Location
- United Kingdom
It'd be almost ironic if we're the result of a de-witching wish / attempt.
What if you can't bring back the original girl, but can grant humanity and sanity to the witch? That would explain why our ring-name is our witch name, why we wouldn't have a past, and also offers a few reasons why we'd wake up dying (botched body reconstruction, made with the body of a wounded witch, revived into the body of a decayed girl's corpse, etc). ...it would also make us the result of magic while also technically being a witch, and likely a bit weird in the soul.
What if you can't bring back the original girl, but can grant humanity and sanity to the witch? That would explain why our ring-name is our witch name, why we wouldn't have a past, and also offers a few reasons why we'd wake up dying (botched body reconstruction, made with the body of a wounded witch, revived into the body of a decayed girl's corpse, etc). ...it would also make us the result of magic while also technically being a witch, and likely a bit weird in the soul.
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Most running theories have us the result of dewitching a conglomerate witch, like Walpurgisnacht or Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen. This is why we're effectively a new being; Sabrina's a metaphysical Frankenstein's Monster, sewn together from a hundred, or even a million, different individual souls.
Where our meatsack comes from, we don't know, however.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
I was going to make a joke about two Magical Girls sharing Naked Space Hugs, but even I am not that tasteless.
Soo
A stork?
...
Honestly, I think I believe an explanation that our body is a magical homunculus damaged by Madokami Befriending us at Sufficient Velocity.
blast flame
How far will we go if it means lighting the way?
- Location
- Perth, Australia
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I would have expected to have seen the girl that made the wish by now.
...unless she concluded she failed and immediately witched out in which case Aurora is probably the best candidate.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Maybe just an anthropomorphization of UKG.
As someone noted a while ago, Sabrina's eyes and hair colours are the same as that of UKG.
I don't think Sabrina's body necessarily needs to be explained in a non magical way. Maybe Madomom just frowned really hard and said 'you are human now' and then UKG was human.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
"And really, she owned my so hard that fight, she basically took made me her daughter. It was that bad."
*Covers reddened face*
"I did no such thing! You made me adopt you!"
"After you kicked my ass and left me destitute and alone."
"You were being kind of very mean..."
"'Mean' meaning 'destroying the universe'..."
"I was going through a phase, OK?"
"I understand, of course I do. You're my nice daughteru now, for better or worse."
"Really?"
"Ye-"
"Daughteru? Come on, mom."
"Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
"What-"
*Hugs Sabrina*
"You actually called me mom!"
"Wait, hadn't I..."
*Hugs Madoka*
"OK, daughter, if I'm gonna be a responsible mom, we need to talk about your education..."
*Feels completely lost*
"Don't worry too much. I'm sure Madoka will get over it... at some point. It used to take her days to get over a new thing, but now time kind of has lost meaning for her, you know?"
"Was that supposed to make me feel better?"
*Shrugs*
*Sets some tea on the table*
"Do you have something stronger?"
"Homura! You're still underage."
"... I am the devil."
*Giggles*
*Giggles*
*Frowns*
"You should not be laughing, you should feel hate and fear towards me-"
*Headpats Homura*
*Hugs Homura*
*Hugs Homura*
*Headpats Homura too because why not*
*Joins in the hugs*
"... I am the night."
"Pfft..."
*Sighs underneat the cuddles*
Things did not turn the way Homua expected once her identity and Madoka's were fully revealed.
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Dantalion
Insight: 365
- Location
- A Guest Room at the Brass Embassy, dying of Frenzy
- Pronouns
- Any
So, we have effectively a Mami-tier meguca that, rather than being friendly, is generally blunt and slightly hostile. One that has seen enough meguca, has enough understanding of the system to believe our grief cleansing impossible had she not seen it with her own eyes.
Could she have made it to this point without being bombed?
She is Mami-tier, and Mami managed it.
But Mami can't see souls, as Rion^na appears to be able to. That would require never seeing the witch of any meguca she had previously met. Implausible, given that she holds Edinburgh solo - everything starts somewhere.
She is rather blunt, she could have pushed all other girls away.
But unless she managed to get EVERY other meguca out of the city before they were starved out, that would've ensured she got Witchbombed by her powers. Not to mention that she has enough knowledge of wish values to know that ordinarily true cleansing is an impossible thing - which would imply that she's encountered a charlatan before, given her glare.
...Now that I think about it, I wonder how familiar-Witches look in her sight compared to meguca-Witches?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I do expect her to be Witchbombed. Just want to... follow procedure, to put it that way, since the Witchbomb is so dangerous.
... Thought: Since Riona is basically Mami level or thereabouts, I wonder if they could end up sharing notes, becoming maybe not friends, but... I don't know, they could have some sort of relationship in which they recognize each other as peers...?
Mind, Riona doesn't seem to give a shit about Mami at the moment. She's here for da grief.
- Location
- USA, Midworld world line
I find her attitude towards our significant other ... disturbing.
What if we tried to fit that to Madoka's value system? Something so radical that it went forward poorly, and resulted in a constrained choice, sounds a little off as the work of her greater self. Instead?
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My favorite concept would invoke an attempt to hack Metaphysics as a joint project between Madokami and the witch. The witch that volunteered to go forth once more as a human to grant her own wish, after finding she could not reach it as an insane abomination.
Edit: Let's have a BGM for such a scene? :giggle:
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Sometimes I need to make up facts. Hopefully very non canon facts. Hopefully reality is kinder.
"Ah, Miss Mag Aoidh," started Mami, a polite smile etched on her lips. "So... you hold Edinburgh all by yourself, right?"
"Yes?"
The snappy tone almost made Mami take a step back. Metaphorically.
"It must've been quite trying, getting hold of so much territory, that's admirable!"
A baleful side glance. "I Wished. I kicked everyone out. Took one tuesday."
"Oh... that's impressive," Mami's smile froze in place. "Truly. I had to train a lot to get this far, myself, had to drop school activities..."
Riona snorted. "Good, you waste less time that way."
"Um, right..." Mami blinked, desperately searching for a different vector with which to start conversation. "So you've had no students, then? I've had a few... it can be quite..." she couldn't help a cringe, "rewarding..."
"Until they abandon you for whatever stupid reason?"
"If, you wanted to put it that way..."
"... How many?" the foreigner finally looked straight at Mami.
Her honey gold eyes drooped, dim. "Seven. Nine- no, eight if you count... No," she shook her head, ringlets flopping, "just seven."
Riona's green eyes shone as she examines Mami, as if searching for something.
"Two," she muttered in the end.
Mami opened her mouth.
"Dead," finished Riona.
Mami's mouth snapeds shut.
"I didn't take Edinbugh in one day, that's dumb," the young woman spit, before taking a swing of her flask, "but dumber was thinking I could take on students."
"Make friends," added Mami.
"Yeah... Do you..." Riona's tone turned wistful, her gaze lost somewhere far away,"see them, some times?"
"I didn't use to," Mami smiled a sad little smile, "but I have hopes... and I managed to reconnect with one of my kouhais lately, it's great!"
For once, the irish Magical Girl looked dumfounded, scrutinizing the shy, hopeful expression in Mami's face, as if studying something uncomprehensible.
"Kouhais don't come back," she snapped.
To her consternation, Mami nodded, ringlets bouncing up and down.
"Impossible, that's what I though. But..."
"Oh," breathed Riona. "Impossible. Let me guess. Sabrina?"
"Yes," Mami's smile became brighter, "Sabrina."
A long moment of silence passed, filled by a swing of a flask.
"Do you know the phrase those who can't do, teach?" asked Riona, out of the blue. She went on before Mami could answer. "It's BS, but there's something, something..." she waved her hand, the flasks' contents swirling around, "maybe I'm too strong," she snapped again, fluminating Mami with her green eyes.
Golden eyes blinked in slight confusion. "You have strong powers, right? Kind of like..."
"Bah," Riona rolled her eyes. "What I'm saying... maybe it was my fault."
What. The word didn't make it past Mami's lips, before they turned into an 'O' in comprehension.
"What was it like, what did you... teach yours?" asked Riona, shoulders slumped.
Mami blinked a few times, before realizing she was being asked for tutelage, and stood straighter without thought, eager to share her experiences.
"Well, I start by showing them what Witch Hunting is like, before they make a Wish if at all possible. It's difficult, since I need to split my attention between fighting and protecting them, but it really helps..."
Many minutes later, a thoroughly confused Sabrina spied on a rather spirited conversation between her sort-of-girlfriend and the stranger who wouldn't give her the time of the day an hour prior.
For once, she resisted the urge to hug her Mami, stepped back, and let her continue her animated conversation with her... peer?
New friend, maybe?
Whatever the case, it brought a hopeful smile to her face.
"Ah, Miss Mag Aoidh," started Mami, a polite smile etched on her lips. "So... you hold Edinburgh all by yourself, right?"
"Yes?"
The snappy tone almost made Mami take a step back. Metaphorically.
"It must've been quite trying, getting hold of so much territory, that's admirable!"
A baleful side glance. "I Wished. I kicked everyone out. Took one tuesday."
"Oh... that's impressive," Mami's smile froze in place. "Truly. I had to train a lot to get this far, myself, had to drop school activities..."
Riona snorted. "Good, you waste less time that way."
"Um, right..." Mami blinked, desperately searching for a different vector with which to start conversation. "So you've had no students, then? I've had a few... it can be quite..." she couldn't help a cringe, "rewarding..."
"Until they abandon you for whatever stupid reason?"
"If, you wanted to put it that way..."
"... How many?" the foreigner finally looked straight at Mami.
Her honey gold eyes drooped, dim. "Seven. Nine- no, eight if you count... No," she shook her head, ringlets flopping, "just seven."
Riona's green eyes shone as she examines Mami, as if searching for something.
"Two," she muttered in the end.
Mami opened her mouth.
"Dead," finished Riona.
Mami's mouth snapeds shut.
"I didn't take Edinbugh in one day, that's dumb," the young woman spit, before taking a swing of her flask, "but dumber was thinking I could take on students."
"Make friends," added Mami.
"Yeah... Do you..." Riona's tone turned wistful, her gaze lost somewhere far away,"see them, some times?"
"I didn't use to," Mami smiled a sad little smile, "but I have hopes... and I managed to reconnect with one of my kouhais lately, it's great!"
For once, the irish Magical Girl looked dumfounded, scrutinizing the shy, hopeful expression in Mami's face, as if studying something uncomprehensible.
"Kouhais don't come back," she snapped.
To her consternation, Mami nodded, ringlets bouncing up and down.
"Impossible, that's what I though. But..."
"Oh," breathed Riona. "Impossible. Let me guess. Sabrina?"
"Yes," Mami's smile became brighter, "Sabrina."
A long moment of silence passed, filled by a swing of a flask.
"Do you know the phrase those who can't do, teach?" asked Riona, out of the blue. She went on before Mami could answer. "It's BS, but there's something, something..." she waved her hand, the flasks' contents swirling around, "maybe I'm too strong," she snapped again, fluminating Mami with her green eyes.
Golden eyes blinked in slight confusion. "You have strong powers, right? Kind of like..."
"Bah," Riona rolled her eyes. "What I'm saying... maybe it was my fault."
What. The word didn't make it past Mami's lips, before they turned into an 'O' in comprehension.
"What was it like, what did you... teach yours?" asked Riona, shoulders slumped.
Mami blinked a few times, before realizing she was being asked for tutelage, and stood straighter without thought, eager to share her experiences.
"Well, I start by showing them what Witch Hunting is like, before they make a Wish if at all possible. It's difficult, since I need to split my attention between fighting and protecting them, but it really helps..."
Many minutes later, a thoroughly confused Sabrina spied on a rather spirited conversation between her sort-of-girlfriend and the stranger who wouldn't give her the time of the day an hour prior.
For once, she resisted the urge to hug her Mami, stepped back, and let her continue her animated conversation with her... peer?
New friend, maybe?
Whatever the case, it brought a hopeful smile to her face.
mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
Riona knows about the Witchbomb. Could you remove it from the votes now?
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Hey, good catch!