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Vebyast said:
Wrap ourselves up in a sphere of grief for armor, scatter around a few shells that're externally identical but actually just hollow decoys. Pull the utility fog in to 80m or so so the center of the fog doesn't give away which sphere is the right one. Put our body in a different sphere than our soul gem to see if we can give her a nasty surprise at some point?
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I disagree with separating our gem from our body by any great distance. (more than a few centimeters) In addition to possible loss of coordination, there's also the matter that being a static target makes it easier for someone to avoid and the fact that there's a line of magic connecting the gem to us, which could be visible to someone with good senses. (and also likely severable to someone with the right skillset. I don't think that someone is Yuki, but until we have countermeasures to being gemmed it strikes me as a risky habit to get into.)

There's also the thing that leaps out to me, that a even with "low intensity" lot of this stuff is still basically just abusing raw power and there's a lot of other things that can be done too: Playing to psychology and expectations instead, for instance.

Sound (footsteps, ambient noise) would probably be better suited to a girl without a really strong magic sense, but even like this it can still be put to raise the expectation of an attack.

Likewise, a growing sense of witchiness probably can be associated with an attack charging, and can be used to draw focus away from an attack from a completely different direction. Especially if there are times where active witchiness actually is an attack. (and not just physically either, a strong magnetic charge could serve useful if there's an appropriate metal it can be used on)
 
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The Phoenixian said:
Sound (footsteps, ambient noise) would probably be better suited to a girl without a really strong magic sense, but even like this it can still be put to raise the expectation of an attack.
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I'm expecting Yuki to have good enough senses, particularly if we're in her territory, that make gambits like this essentially pointless. Imagine trying to pull that off against Sabrina and her utility fog.

I am playing games with witchiness, feinting and so on.
The Phoenixian said:
I disagree with separating our gem from our body by any great distance. (more than a few centimeters) In addition to possible loss of coordination, there's also the matter that it a static target is both makes it easier for someone to avoid and the fact that there's a line of magic connecting the gem to us, which could be visible to someone with good senses. (and also likely severable to someone with the right skillset. I don't think that someone is Yuki, but until we have countermeasures to being gemmed it strikes me as a risky habit to get into.)
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I hadn't known there was a perceptible magical connection. Is there a citation on that?

We're not using our body in my proposal, and it shouldn't slow the reactions of our Grief at all, which is the important thing. Losing the link isn't an issue. If Sabrina had found time to practice operating as a disembodied gem I'd consider an intentional disconnect followed by puppeting the body with grief for the fraction of a second it'd be visible outside the featureless grief armor-sphere.

It is a lot of brute force. I think that I'm failing to detail some of the things I mentioned in passing. Like, "perception", I mean forming a huge array of electromagnetic sensors, all the way up into gamma and down into long-wave radio, on the off-chance that we need it to track Yuki as she moves through her buildings. I bet she's not going to think to make her building a faraday cage, and we have an absolutely obscene antenna and it wouldn't take long to make it do interferometry or volumetric scanning. If she has, we can switch to using passive gamma from environmental sources. Hmm, yeah, we should definitely do that.
 
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Firnagzen said:
Yo. If you have a complaint, you can raise a concern normally, instead of this passive-aggressive shit. Knock it off.
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Okay, sorry. I edited it to be a a little gentler, but I honestly am voting to delay discussions and talk in person rather than use telepathy so much. Trying to picture it from the perspective of the NPCs, it's like that friend who never stops texting you.
 
Change of plans. (Not regarding spar).

[X] Update your friends.

[X] Spar.
-[X] Agree.
--[X] Hash out rules.
---[X] Propose: No dismemberment nor Gem targetting.
---[X] You'll avoid destroying anything she doesn't use against you.
--[X] Go all out otherwise.
---[X] Abuse Grief Fog; solid Grief defense; flight.
---[X] Floors, walls, meguca, ceiling and furniture are opponents.

[X] Business. Don't finalize anything:
-[X] The defense pact is interesting.
--[X] Clarify your expectations. You're out to help all magical girls.
-[X] Tentatively agree on the Anti-Magic enchantments.

[X] Invite Yuki to meet your friends after school. You can discuss the defense pact there, Kirika can start on those Anti-Magic enchantments, and she can take Anri back afterwards.
[X] Comment on Dissoluzione Bianca.
[X] Ask about other groups.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Feb 26, 2018 at 10:35 PM, finished with 133337 posts and 16 votes.
  • [x] Contact your team.
    -[x] Fukushima proposes a mutual defense agreement. This affects all of them. They should confer as they have time.
    -[x] Excuse yourself when sparring starts.
    [x] Spar: Agree.
    -[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
    -[x] Stick to an unambiguous interpretation of agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians. (Remember the antimatter omake!)
    -[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.
    [X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
    -[X] Who's likely to attack?
    --[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but if possible would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either after fighting or before it starts.
    -[x] What other groups are in the area in general?
    -[X] Share that you're conferring with Tomoe Mami. Bring up comments/concerns from your friends. If no consensus among the team yet, break to voting.
    [X] Payment:
    -[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
    -[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
    -[X] Formally agree, then provide payment.
    --[x] Provide Clear Seed. Explain details, including ones relevant to Airi's containment.
    [X] Update your friends.
    [x] Spar
    -[X] Agree.
    --[X] Hash out rules.
    ---[X] Propose: No dismemberment nor Gem targetting.
    ---[X] You'll avoid destroying anything she doesn't use against you.
    --[X] Go all out otherwise.
    ---[X] Abuse Grief Fog; solid Grief defense; flight.
    ---[X] Floors, walls, meguca, ceiling and furniture are opponents.
    [X] Business. Don't finalize anything:
    -[X] The defense pact is interesting.
    --[X] Clarify your expectations. You're out to help all magical girls.
    -[X] Tentatively agree on the Anti-Magic enchantments.
    [X] Invite Yuki to meet your friends after school. You can discuss the defense pact there, Kirika can start on those Anti-Magic enchantments, and she can take Anri back afterwards.
    [X] Comment on Dissoluzione Bianca.
    [X] Ask about other groups.
    [x] Spar
    - [x] Agree
    -- [x] Rules of nature engagement
    --- [x] Go all out (barring gem shots)
    [x] Spar
    -[X] You will be sandbagging, to a degree. You're not here to kill her or blow shit up.
    --[X] If she inquires about this, demonstrate Prima Luce.
    --[X] Don't even harm her directly. Anything you can do that will really hurt her, you can do and pull at the last second. Prima Luce would be overly hostile.
    ---[X] Other than that, pull no punches.
    [X] Ping Homura about mutual defense pact and that they're agreeing to Walpurgis as part of it.
    [x] Don't contact your team yet.
    -[x] An extended discussion in person will be better than than trying to brief them remotely.
    [x] Spar: Agree.
    -[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force/escalation/collateral. Despite free cleansing, you wouldn't want to destroy anything too valuable.
    --[x] But goad Yuki, "Give me the word to cut loose and I'll show you what I can really do."
    -[x] Go all out barring gem shots (within agreed guidelines).
    --[x] Combat-density fog, Sabrina in a sphere of grief for armor surrounded by decoy shells, fill volume with high-intensity light and sounds, grief constructs materializing out of the air to restrain and attack
    [X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
    -[X] Let Yuki know you'll be conferring with Tomoe Mami.
    -[X] What attackers does she anticipate?
    --[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You will defend Fukushima if needed, but given the option would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either after fighting or before it starts.
    -[X] You'll be in touch later after thinking it over.
    [X] Payment:
    -[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
    -[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
    -[X] Formally agree, then provide payment (including Clear Seed).
    [X] Vote in abbeyance, as appropriate.
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Torgamous said:
We're not exactly telling them what we're having for lunch here.
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But what's the urgency that requires interrupting them? A decision on a mutual defense pact is serious enough that it deserves some thought; Yuki doesn't need an answer right away. Plenty of time to brief them face-to-face later today.

I just like to be respectful of people's time. Homura is probably a lost cause, but I'm sure Sayaka and even Mami probably want to have portions of their day when they can go for hours at a time without thinking about magical girl stuff. Brainmailing all the time never lets them get away from it.
 
[x] Contact your team.
-[x] Fukushima proposes a mutual defense agreement. This affects all of them. They should confer as they have time.
-[x] Excuse yourself when sparring starts.

[x] Spar: Agree.
-[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
-[x] Stick to an unambiguous interpretation of agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians. (Remember the antimatter omake!)
-[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.

[X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
-[X] Who's likely to attack?
--[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but if possible would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either after fighting or before it starts.
-[x] What other groups are in the area in general?
-[X] Share that you're conferring with Tomoe Mami. Bring up comments/concerns from your friends. If no consensus among the team yet, break to voting.

[X] Payment:
-[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
-[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
-[X] Formally agree, then provide payment.
--[x] Provide Clear Seed. Explain details, including ones relevant to Airi's containment.

185/200 words.

I think that even during lessons, the spar and other discussion with Yuki should give our teammates enough time to come to a y/n consensus. If it isn't, we can break to voting and address taking Yuki to Mitakihara next update.

Briefvoice said:
But what's the urgency that requires interrupting them? A decision on a mutual defense pact is serious enough that it deserves some thought.
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That's exactly why we should fill them in ASAP - so they have as much time as possible to come to a decision. It's not like this is some minor detail they don't need to know about, or that we're contacting them frivolously.
 
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Briefvoice said:
But what's the urgency that requires interrupting them? A decision on a mutual defense pact is serious enough that it deserves some thought; Yuki doesn't need an answer right away. Plenty of time to brief them face-to-face later today.

I just like to be respectful of people's time. Homura is probably a lost cause, but I'm sure Sayaka and even Mami probably want to have portions of their day when they can go for hours at a time without thinking about magical girl stuff. Brainmailing all the time never lets them get away from it.
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It's Mami's and Sayaka's city, technically. Their opinion on things like a mutual defense pact technically outweighs ours.
 
Briefvoice said:
but I'm sure Sayaka and even Mami probably want to have portions of their day when they can go for hours at a time without thinking about magical girl stuff.
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Mami would spend the entire day talking to us if she wasn't so responsible and worried about being needy, and Sayaka hasn't become disillusioned about magical girls yet, or rather we've done a solid job of reillusioning her. So no, I think they're both fine in that respect.
 
Some edits.

[x] Contact your team.
-[x] Fukushima proposes a mutual defense agreement. This affects all of us. Discuss?
-[x] Excuse yourself when sparring starts.

[x] Spar: Agree.
-[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
-[x] Unambiguously follow agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians. (Remember the antimatter omake!)
-[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.

[X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
-[X] Who's likely to attack?
--[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either before fighting starts or after it's done - as they should know.
-[X] What other groups are in the area?
-[X] Share that you're conferring with Tomoe Mami. Bring up comments/concerns from your friends. If no/negative consensus among our team, break to voting.

[X] Payment:
-[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
-[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
-[X] Provisionally agree, then invite Yuki to Mitakihara to ratify in person, tailor antimagic, and pick up Airi.
--[X] Provide Clear Seed - it's not contingent on the rest of the deal. Explain details, including ones relevant to Airi's containment.

197 words.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Feb 26, 2018 at 11:41 PM, finished with 133340 posts and 16 votes.
  • [x] Contact your team.
    -[x] Fukushima proposes a mutual defense agreement. This affects all of us. Discuss?
    -[x] Excuse yourself when sparring starts.
    [x] Spar: Agree.
    -[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
    -[x] Unambiguously follow agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians. (Remember the antimatter omake!)
    -[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.
    [X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
    -[X] Who's likely to attack?
    --[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either before fighting starts or after it's done - as they should know.
    -[X] What other groups are in the area?
    -[X] Share that you're conferring with Tomoe Mami. Bring up comments/concerns from your friends. If no/negative consensus among our team, break to voting.
    [X] Payment:
    -[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
    -[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
    -[X] Provisionally agree, then invite Yuki to Mitakihara to ratify in person, tailor antimagic, and pick up Airi.
    --[X] Provide Clear Seed - it's not contingent on the rest of the deal. Explain details, including ones relevant to Airi's containment.
    [X] Update your friends.
    [x] Spar
    -[X] Agree.
    --[X] Hash out rules.
    ---[X] Propose: No dismemberment nor Gem targetting.
    ---[X] You'll avoid destroying anything she doesn't use against you.
    --[X] Go all out otherwise.
    ---[X] Abuse Grief Fog; solid Grief defense; flight.
    ---[X] Floors, walls, meguca, ceiling and furniture are opponents.
    [X] Business. Don't finalize anything:
    -[X] The defense pact is interesting.
    --[X] Clarify your expectations. You're out to help all magical girls.
    -[X] Tentatively agree on the Anti-Magic enchantments.
    [X] Invite Yuki to meet your friends after school. You can discuss the defense pact there, Kirika can start on those Anti-Magic enchantments, and she can take Anri back afterwards.
    [X] Comment on Dissoluzione Bianca.
    [X] Ask about other groups.
    [x] Spar
    - [x] Agree
    -- [x] Rules of nature engagement
    --- [x] Go all out (barring gem shots)
    [x] Spar
    -[X] You will be sandbagging, to a degree. You're not here to kill her or blow shit up.
    --[X] If she inquires about this, demonstrate Prima Luce.
    --[X] Don't even harm her directly. Anything you can do that will really hurt her, you can do and pull at the last second. Prima Luce would be overly hostile.
    ---[X] Other than that, pull no punches.
    [X] Ping Homura about mutual defense pact and that they're agreeing to Walpurgis as part of it.
    [x] Don't contact your team yet.
    -[x] An extended discussion in person will be better than than trying to brief them remotely.
    [x] Spar: Agree.
    -[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force/escalation/collateral. Despite free cleansing, you wouldn't want to destroy anything too valuable.
    --[x] But goad Yuki, "Give me the word to cut loose and I'll show you what I can really do."
    -[x] Go all out barring gem shots (within agreed guidelines).
    --[x] Combat-density fog, Sabrina in a sphere of grief for armor surrounded by decoy shells, fill volume with high-intensity light and sounds, grief constructs materializing out of the air to restrain and attack
    [X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
    -[X] Let Yuki know you'll be conferring with Tomoe Mami.
    -[X] What attackers does she anticipate?
    --[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You will defend Fukushima if needed, but given the option would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either after fighting or before it starts.
    -[X] You'll be in touch later after thinking it over.
    [X] Payment:
    -[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
    -[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
    -[X] Formally agree, then provide payment (including Clear Seed).
    [X] Vote in abbeyance, as appropriate.
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Redshirt Army said:
-[X] Provisionally agree, then invite Yuki to Mitakihara to ratify in person, tailor antimagic, and pick up Airi.
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Oh! Check with Homura on this?
Redshirt Army said:
--[X] Provide Clear Seed - it's not contingent on the rest of the deal. Explain details, including ones relevant to Airi's containment.
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Good catch.
Redshirt Army said:
-[x] Excuse yourself when sparring starts.
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Hopefully we're explicitly saying "been invited to spar brb" there.

We lost "ask Homura for intelligence". Did we decide that that wasn't likely to yield anything useful?
 
Vebyast said:
Oh! Check with Homura on this?
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Good point. Added discussion of Yuki coming to Mitakihara to group chat.

[x] Contact your team.
-[x] Fukushima proposes a mutual defense agreement. This affects all of us. Discuss?
-[x] Can Yuki come in person to ratify and fulfill the contract?
-[x] Excuse yourself during sparring.

[x] Spar: Agree.
-[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
-[x] Unambiguously follow agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians.
-[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.

[X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
-[X] Who's likely to attack?
--[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either before fighting starts or after it's done - as they should know.
-[X] What other groups are in the area?
-[X] Share that you're conferring with Tomoe Mami. Bring up comments/concerns from your friends. If no/negative consensus among our team, break to voting.

[X] Payment:
-[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
-[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
-[X] Provisionally agree, then invite Yuki to Mitakihara to ratify in person, tailor antimagic, and pick up Airi.
--[X] Provide Clear Seed - it's not contingent on the rest of the deal. Explain details, including "dormancy".

200 words on the dot.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Feb 27, 2018 at 12:03 AM, finished with 133343 posts and 16 votes.
  • [x] Contact your team.
    -[x] Fukushima proposes a mutual defense agreement. This affects all of us. Discuss?
    -[x] Can Yuki come in person to ratify and fulfill the contract?
    -[x] Excuse yourself during sparring.
    [x] Spar: Agree.
    -[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
    -[x] Unambiguously follow agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians.
    -[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.
    [X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
    -[X] Who's likely to attack?
    --[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either before fighting starts or after it's done - as they should know.
    -[X] What other groups are in the area?
    -[X] Share that you're conferring with Tomoe Mami. Bring up comments/concerns from your friends. If no/negative consensus among our team, break to voting.
    [X] Payment:
    -[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
    -[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
    -[X] Provisionally agree, then invite Yuki to Mitakihara to ratify in person, tailor antimagic, and pick up Airi.
    --[X] Provide Clear Seed - it's not contingent on the rest of the deal. Explain details, including "dormancy".
    [X] Update your friends.
    [x] Spar
    -[X] Agree.
    --[X] Hash out rules.
    ---[X] Propose: No dismemberment nor Gem targetting.
    ---[X] You'll avoid destroying anything she doesn't use against you.
    --[X] Go all out otherwise.
    ---[X] Abuse Grief Fog; solid Grief defense; flight.
    ---[X] Floors, walls, meguca, ceiling and furniture are opponents.
    [X] Business. Don't finalize anything:
    -[X] The defense pact is interesting.
    --[X] Clarify your expectations. You're out to help all magical girls.
    -[X] Tentatively agree on the Anti-Magic enchantments.
    [X] Invite Yuki to meet your friends after school. You can discuss the defense pact there, Kirika can start on those Anti-Magic enchantments, and she can take Anri back afterwards.
    [X] Comment on Dissoluzione Bianca.
    [X] Ask about other groups.
    [x] Spar
    - [x] Agree
    -- [x] Rules of nature engagement
    --- [x] Go all out (barring gem shots)
    [x] Spar
    -[X] You will be sandbagging, to a degree. You're not here to kill her or blow shit up.
    --[X] If she inquires about this, demonstrate Prima Luce.
    --[X] Don't even harm her directly. Anything you can do that will really hurt her, you can do and pull at the last second. Prima Luce would be overly hostile.
    ---[X] Other than that, pull no punches.
    [X] Ping Homura about mutual defense pact and that they're agreeing to Walpurgis as part of it.
    [x] Don't contact your team yet.
    -[x] An extended discussion in person will be better than than trying to brief them remotely.
    [x] Spar: Agree.
    -[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force/escalation/collateral. Despite free cleansing, you wouldn't want to destroy anything too valuable.
    --[x] But goad Yuki, "Give me the word to cut loose and I'll show you what I can really do."
    -[x] Go all out barring gem shots (within agreed guidelines).
    --[x] Combat-density fog, Sabrina in a sphere of grief for armor surrounded by decoy shells, fill volume with high-intensity light and sounds, grief constructs materializing out of the air to restrain and attack
    [X] Defense Pact: You're interested.
    -[X] Let Yuki know you'll be conferring with Tomoe Mami.
    -[X] What attackers does she anticipate?
    --[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You will defend Fukushima if needed, but given the option would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either after fighting or before it starts.
    -[X] You'll be in touch later after thinking it over.
    [X] Payment:
    -[X] Agree to provide antimagic.
    -[X] Haggle, erring on the side of generosity.
    -[X] Formally agree, then provide payment (including Clear Seed).
    [X] Vote in abbeyance, as appropriate.
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I wonder if we're going to have an audience for this.

(I wonder if Homu is going to walk us all the way up here so she can watch.)
 
I'm not really ready to talk to Yuki about dewitching. Until we get that project off the ground, it's better to establish our credentials here first. I'd like to leave here with the impression of mutual respect rather then potentially being red flagged now for pursuing a project known to be steeped in madness, if Nadia's example is any indication.
 
Muramasa said:
I'm not really ready to talk to Yuki about dewitching. Until we get that project off the ground, it's better to establish our credentials here first. I'd like to leave here with the impression of mutual respect rather then potentially being red flagged now for pursuing a project known to be steeped in madness, if Nadia's example is any indication.
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That's exactly why I backed down from "discussing Grief Seed details pertinent to Airi" to "mentioning that Clear Seeds are dormant" in the latest edit, actually.
 
Vebyast said:
"So I'll want to come by every couple-few weeks to check on it", maybe? That was in an earlier version of the vote but I think got cut for space.
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Even then, we have more easily accessible clear seeds to monitor that with? Also I really do hope we make better progress on dewitching by then, to the point we've moved beyond the activity state of the witch core.
 
Redshirt Army said:
-[x] Can Yuki come in person to ratify and fulfill the contract?
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Redshirt Army said:
-[X] Provisionally agree, then invite Yuki to Mitakihara to ratify in person, tailor antimagic, and pick up Airi.
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I do not think this is how ratification works. Also this seems phrased redundantly, given that we're running into wordcount v clarity issues elsewhere now

Redshirt Army said:
--[X] You're out to help all Magical Girls. You'll defend Fukushima, but would prefer to make peace with hostiles, either before fighting starts or after it's done - as they should know.
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The addition here seems like it can be taken a as fairly passive-aggressive.

Muramasa said:
Even then, we have more easily accessible clear seeds to monitor that with? Also I really do hope we make better progress on dewitching by then, to the point we've moved beyond the activity state of the witch core.
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If Fukushima's pricing is any indication of their rate of consumption, they'll likely end up going through the clear seed much faster than most groups.
 
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Redshirt Army said:
[x] Spar: Agree.
-[x] Clarify appropriate levels of force. Free cleansing aside, you don't want to destroy anything valuable.
-[x] Unambiguously follow agreed rules. Escalate responsibly, don't risk civilians.
-[x] Beyond that, don't hold back. Flight, armor, feints. Abuse nanofog, energy emissions.
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I don't think it will be an issue, but maybe put agreeing to the spar later in the vote - specifically after talking about rules of engagement.

I can just see a situation where we open with "Sure, but - " and then Yuki starts because her time and place were right here and now and we never actually get a chance to discuss it. It would be dumb, I don't think Firn would do that, and it's only even an issue if she really is about to suddenly attack us. So I think it's vanishingly unlikely to matter, but I mean, it's not that much effort to change it just in case?

I dunno, it's not that big of a deal, just something I noticed.
 
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