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Given what witches are, it doesn't seem possible that they could not drop a Grief Seed. And if familiars-turned-witches didn't drop Seeds, then familiar-farming would be pointless.

In fact, from what I'm reading on the wiki, shouldn't the Souju's witch have dropped two?
 
Do we ever get to see what Walpy drops when defeated? I've seen theories about what the drop might be, but I can't recall it ever being shown in canon.
 
it's entirely possible that the Soujo Witch didn't drop a Grief Seed because it was unstable or some such, I suppose. Maybe Walpurgis needs to reach a critical mass of fused to produce a Grief seed? Or maybe the writer of KM assumed Walpy simply had no Grief Seed? One could be forgiven for that conclusion, especially before the PSP game.
 
The Narrator said:
Given what witches are, it doesn't seem possible that they could not drop a Grief Seed. And if familiars-turned-witches didn't drop Seeds, then familiar-farming would be pointless.

In fact, from what I'm reading on the wiki, shouldn't the Souju's witch have dropped two?
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I think what people were saying was that the Familiar was only 90% of the way there, so therefore killing it wouldn't drop a seed. Familiar farming is letting the Familiar eat up to 100%.
 
Just finished re-reading PMKM, here are my complied notes:

KAZUSA FIRST WITCHES OUT ON THE DAY UMIKA'S DEBUT WORK, COMES OUT! Book is The Sky of Seven Stars - Misake Umika. Some quick and dirty googling shows that the Japanese Publishing industry does announce release dates for books, and did back in 2011. It's been brought as something Firn might have messed with a bit, but given it reads to my eyes like a proper poignant tragedy rather than a glaring plot hole, it's also entirely possible he hasn't.

...You can tell I was a bit excited by having hard timeline data this good.

Early in the manga, we see Kazumi's soul gem held in her hand, it's grief seed like shape is noteworthy and eventually mentioned, and there are plenty of explicit references that the earring bell being the soul gem. (it remains in earring bell form after transformation) Near the end there is mention of her having no soul gem and the thing in the earring bell being a grief seed all along.

Later, PMKM specifically refers to the the source of a witch's vitality that is the "hearts of witches: Cor Maleficus", (showing the Saints holding a literal symbolic-heart shaped object) when it comes to what power will bring back Kazusa. Given that this is scientific information and there's all of human history to gather it, there's a good chance other magical girls would know if something like these "witches hearts" exists. So we should be able to check if Firn has messed around with the Kazusa clone project's actual mechanics using that. It wouldn't surprise me however to learn that the Cor Maleficus is the formal name for the thing that takes the form of the abyssal point of grief in our gem.

Anri Airi specifically contracts Kyuubey, He's not seen head on, but distinctive through his shadow and ear tassel positioning. Given that she contracts after the witch fight with Asuka Yuuri and we see Juubey with the Pleiades during the same fight spouting Kyuubey's canon dialog almost word for word, it's possible that Jyuubey of that period is a false memory of Kyuubey. Of course, that is a falsified flashback so I'd imagine what really happened is that those were the words Kyuubey said to the Pleides Saints after Kazusa witched out. Depending on exact details, this could also mean that Niko contracts Kyuubey only to have her memories overwritten with Jyuubey later.

Given the existence of Sojou Luce and Ayase, I'd assume what PMKM is getting at is an idea that people with multiple personalities have multiple souls, and so can make multiple contracts, or perhaps divide in two upon contracting. (Though they may have specifically wished for that result.)

Counting from their first introduction pages, It looks like all 12 Kazusa clones are still around. Reading on It looks like the clones with Kazusa's memories went permanently berserk (into a permanent "fighting state") while fighting witches specifically.

From comments about 20+ missing girls in chapter 16, it looks like the Pleiades Saints situation went on for several months. Some of those girls were contacted by "Hyades" (Kanna Hijiri) No precise time frame for that second detail.
 
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We have no indication Sojou going to be a problem in PMAS, but I don't actually see a reason she couldn't be if Kanna Hijiri has already contracted. if take a baseline asumption that Oriko's foresight was being deliberately subverted by our Feathered friend, then we should maybe, just maybe check for her when we're back in Asunaro to deal with Hijiri. Maybe it'd be safest to quickly scan the city for MGs from time-stop when we come back with the strike team.

Edit: Yep, if we're playing things really safe a MG census in Asunaro might be an option.
 
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Onmur said:
I think this covers everything.

[X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
-[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
-[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
-[X] Extra attention to her Soul Gem.
-[X] Let them chat as long as they need.

[X] When appropriate:
-[X] Introduce everyone.
-[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
-[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
-[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
-[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.

[X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
-[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
-[X] If not, maybe Kirika can make some Anti-Magic Enchantmets for us?

[X] Once done, say goodbye to the Kures, and privately ask Homura to have that chat.

EDIT: Typos, typos, so many typos.
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We may want to consider waiting to mention Hijiri untell we can talk in person, because if there is even a chance Hijiri has not contracted yet, our talking about her over telepathy will almost certainly get QB over to her fast.

If we do talk about Hijiri though we are currently forgetting something important though. We are explaining Hijiri's magic but nothing about who she is. We might want to consider letting her know who Hijiri is, and why Hijiri hates Nico. maybe get Nico involved in the discussion. It will be a delicate subject most likely though. Still for now we might want to just mention that they may have a enemy with memory/mind powers without saying the name, and ask to talk about it more in person, something like

-[] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
-[]Explain they may have a enemy who has mind magic without mentioning names.
-[]and we would like to talk more in person about it and have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.

For now
[X] Godwinson
Adhoc vote count started by 4Dname on Jun 15, 2017 at 1:22 AM, finished with 118847 posts and 26 votes.
  • [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Soul Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce everyone.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
    -[X] If not, maybe Kirika can make some Anti-Magic Enchantmets for us?
    [X] Once done, say goodbye to the Kures, and privately ask Homura to have that chat.
    [X] Comfort Mami
    -[X] Be as sappy and inspirational as only you can be.
    -[X] Hugs, snuggles, and cuddles are to be deployed at the captain's discretion.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    -[X] If need be, gently encourage her to talk.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reins between yourself and Mami, inform Kazusa about your abilities, and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] "Well, Senpai?"
    -[X] Let Mami catch up for as long as she needs, providing support as neccessary.
    [X] Once they're done, talk to Kazusa about Clear Seeds and how you'd like to visit Asunaro.
    -[X] If a visit can't be done from Mitakihara, then they're welcome to send a delegation here if they want their seeds cleared.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Comfort Mami
    -[X] Be as sappy and inspirational as only you can be.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reigns, and between yourself and Mami inform Kazusa about your abilities and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Comfort Mami
    - [X] Everything is still very savable.
    - [X] If she wants, we can find a reason to stay in contact long term.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    -[X] If need be, gently encourage her to talk.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reins between yourself and Mami, inform Kazusa about your abilities, and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Telepathy to Mami: "Take your time. Catch up with your friend. You're doing fine, Mami."
    -[X] Continue hugging her. Convey your support physically as much as possible.
    [X] Let Mami take the reins; if your input is needed, interject.
    [X] Pull Mami into the best hug you can manage, and just hold it. Heads on shoulders is ideal.
    [X] Quietly encourage her. Use light pushes, ideally phrased as questions, to move her forward if she stumbles; if she hits a wall, ask if she'll talk to you about how she's feeling, and make counterarguments or counter-assertions to whatever negative issues are preventing her from holding the conversation. If at any point she either can't or does not want to continue, take over.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Example, one possible response to Kazusa's question is "Kyubey betrayed me." Push instead in a direction such as "I have a team now." Keep Mami thinking positive as much as possible.
    -[X] There will inevitably be pauses in the conversation from Mami's end -- run interference as needed with statements such as "just a moment, please."
    -[X] Keep Mami's gem clean.
    -[X] Quiet reassurances should be fit in where they seem well-placed. We're here for her.
    [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Soul Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce yourself and explain your Grief powers.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place.
    --[X] Let her know that if it's urgent, you can be there immediately.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
    -[X] If not, maybe Kirika can make some Anti-Magic Enchantmets for us?
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Adhoc vote count started by 4Dname on Jun 15, 2017 at 10:37 AM, finished with 118857 posts and 26 votes.
  • [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce everyone.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] Bring back the Privacy Device.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to counter them.
    -[X] If not, at least some Anti-Magic Enchantmets?
    [X] Once done, say goodbye to the Kures, and privately ask Homura to have that chat.
    [X] Comfort Mami
    -[X] Be as sappy and inspirational as only you can be.
    -[X] Hugs, snuggles, and cuddles are to be deployed at the captain's discretion.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    -[X] If need be, gently encourage her to talk.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reins between yourself and Mami, inform Kazusa about your abilities, and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] "Well, Senpai?"
    -[X] Let Mami catch up for as long as she needs, providing support as neccessary.
    [X] Once they're done, talk to Kazusa about Clear Seeds and how you'd like to visit Asunaro.
    -[X] If a visit can't be done from Mitakihara, then they're welcome to send a delegation here if they want their seeds cleared.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Comfort Mami
    -[X] Be as sappy and inspirational as only you can be.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reigns, and between yourself and Mami inform Kazusa about your abilities and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Telepathy to Mami: "Take your time. Catch up with your friend. You're doing fine, Mami."
    -[X] Continue hugging her. Convey your support physically as much as possible.
    [X] Let Mami take the reins; if your input is needed, interject.
    [X] Pull Mami into the best hug you can manage, and just hold it. Heads on shoulders is ideal.
    [X] Quietly encourage her. Use light pushes, ideally phrased as questions, to move her forward if she stumbles; if she hits a wall, ask if she'll talk to you about how she's feeling, and make counterarguments or counter-assertions to whatever negative issues are preventing her from holding the conversation. If at any point she either can't or does not want to continue, take over.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Example, one possible response to Kazusa's question is "Kyubey betrayed me." Push instead in a direction such as "I have a team now." Keep Mami thinking positive as much as possible.
    -[X] There will inevitably be pauses in the conversation from Mami's end -- run interference as needed with statements such as "just a moment, please."
    -[X] Keep Mami's gem clean.
    -[X] Quiet reassurances should be fit in where they seem well-placed. We're here for her.
    [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Soul Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce yourself and explain your Grief powers.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place.
    --[X] Let her know that if it's urgent, you can be there immediately.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
    -[X] If not, maybe Kirika can make some Anti-Magic Enchantmets for us?
    [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Soul Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce everyone.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Ask Kirika if she can look up the release date of Umika Misake's debut book.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
    -[X] If not, maybe Kirika can make some Anti-Magic Enchantmets for us?
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Onmur said:
I believe this is from the PSP videogame.

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Interesting. Is it bigger than a normal Grief Seed? More potent?

Is it actually known for certain that Walpy is an amalgamation of witches, and not just the witch of an exceptionally strong magical girl? If so, then were the other witches' Seeds also in there or were they somehow absorbed or destroyed? If the latter, that seems like quite the design flaw! Incubators shot themselves in the foot with that one.

AuraTwilight said:
Or maybe the writer of KM assumed Walpy simply had no Grief Seed?
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Which seems like an odd assumption to make, because if Walpy didn't drop anything then why would Kyouko be interested in teaming up to fight it?
 
The Narrator said:
Interesting. Is it bigger than a normal Grief Seed? More potent?

Is it actually known for certain that Walpy is an amalgamation of witches, and not just the witch of an exceptionally strong magical girl? If so, then were the other witches' Seeds also in there or were they somehow absorbed or destroyed? If the latter, that seems like quite the design flaw! Incubators shot themselves in the foot with that one.
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It's a normal Grief Seed in dimensions that can cleanse a fuck of a lot. and yes, Walpy is canonically a fusion of multiple Witches. I don't think the Incubators care, since it's probably a unique quirk.

Which seems like an odd assumption to make, because if Walpy didn't drop anything then why would Kyouko be interested in teaming up to fight it?
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Kyouko doesn't have the context of "we see multiple iterations of a post-Walpy cityscape where there's no Wallyseed, even when having it would've saved Madoka's life."[/quote]
 
4Dname said:
We may want to consider waiting to mention Hijiri untell we can talk in person, because if there is even a chance Hijiri has not contracted yet, our talking about her over telepathy will almost certainly get QB over to her fast.
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We're telling the people in the room with us about Hijiri, no telepathy needed.
 
Appletank said:
>panicked sweating
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Hey. You can panic, I'm folding this information into plan for divine ascension #38b (bootstrap hilariously)
:p
Recurrence said:
We have no indication Sojou going to be a problem in PMAS, but I don't actually see a reason she couldn't be if Kanna Hijiri has already contracted. if take a baseline asumption that Oriko's foresight was being deliberately subverted by our Feathered friend, then we should maybe, just maybe check for her when we're back in Asunaro to deal with Hijiri. Maybe it'd be safest to quickly scan the city for MGs from time-stop when we come back with the strike team.

Edit: Yep, if we're playing things really safe a MG census in Asunaro might be an option.
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Well, we know that the Sojou sisters are coming here in at the start of week 4 in some possible timelines, presumably after leaving Asunaro.

Worst comes to worst is we fight the sisters and they take our gem, so ultimately we can just learn to be conscious without our body and so be prepared to fight back as a smaller, meaner Ramiel. (We are a diamond in magical girl form and we can shoot lasers after all)

@Onmur May I suggest a small vote revision in light of new information we can connect to the Asunaro timeline?

[X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
-[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
-[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
-[X] Extra attention to her Soul Gem.
-[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
[X] When appropriate:
-[X] Introduce everyone.
-[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
-[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
-[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
-[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
[X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
-[X] Ask Kirika if she can look up the release date of Umika Misake's debut book.
-[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to help counter that.
-[X] If not, maybe Kirika can make some Anti-Magic Enchantmets for us?

Swapping out everything the "leave at the end" part for the noted change due to wordspace, and since it'll be the first thing to get cut if we urgently need to react to the situation anyways.
 
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Recurrence said:
We're telling the people in the room with us about Hijiri, no telepathy needed.
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We still need to use privacy measures. Kyubey can show up anywhere and overhear anything we say.

EDIT: Given his propensity for showing up unexpectedly, he might be The Bunny-Cat Who Walks Through Walls. :cool:
 
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The Narrator said:
We still need to use privacy measures. Kyubey can show up anywhere and overhear anything we say.

EDIT: Given his propensity for showing up unexpectedly, he might be The Bunny-Cat Who Walks Through Walls. :cool:
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Agreed, I think we've still got the privacy construct for after we're done with the telepathy. Maybe we need to specify that in?
 
Excellent observation, Phoenixian; since she's still outside the privacy field, we could shoot a PM to Kirika asking her to look up the book now. Alternatively, we could fold it into our shooting-the-shit phase of our conversation with Michiru: Since we've 'heard so much about them', we could just ask when the book comes out, and she's almost certain to know since it's the breakout work of one of her proteges.

Just try not to panic if we get an answer like 'it's already been released', since that would be bad for the Mumi.
 
[X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
-[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
-[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
-[X] Extra attention to her Gem.
-[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
[X] When appropriate:
-[X] Introduce everyone.
-[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
-[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
-[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
-[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
[X] Bring back the Privacy Device.
[X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
-[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to counter them.
-[X] If not, at least some Anti-Magic Enchantmets?
[X] Once done, say goodbye to the Kures, and privately ask Homura to have that chat.

I think this is a vote update I can make without stomping on anyone's feet. :p

I don't really want to ask about the book directly, because with how... difficult the conversation with Kazusa might already be (for Mami), we should be careful to not have one of our cloud cuckolander moments.

We can just google the book's title later. It should be an easy find if it's out there.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Jun 16, 2017 at 8:28 AM, finished with 118933 posts and 26 votes.
  • [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce everyone.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] (Have Kirika) Check if Umika's book is out already.
    [X] Bring back the Privacy Device.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics: You'd like to have Kirika (and Oriko) along to counter them.
    -[X] If not, at least some Anti-Magic Enchantmets?
    [X] Comfort Mami
    -[X] Be as sappy and inspirational as only you can be.
    -[X] Hugs, snuggles, and cuddles are to be deployed at the captain's discretion.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    -[X] If need be, gently encourage her to talk.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reins between yourself and Mami, inform Kazusa about your abilities, and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Quietly encourage and reassure Mami.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Help Mami think positive.
    -[X] Cover for Mami if necessary.
    -[X] Extra attention to her Gem.
    -[X] Let them chat as long as they need.
    [X] When appropriate:
    -[X] Introduce everyone.
    -[X] Explain about your helping meguca thing. And your friends making thing.
    -[X] Arrange for the Asunaro visit. Time and place. Let her know how fast you travel, specially in emergencies.
    -[X] Let Kazusa know it might be more than just Mami and Sabrina visiting.
    -[X] Say goodbye to Kazusa.
    [X] Bring back the Privacy Device.
    [X] Discuss who's going to Asunaro, paying special attention to Mami's wishes.
    -[X] Suggest that we look up Umika's books and release dates.
    -[X] Discuss Hijiri's motives and what powers she should have access to, along with possible counters.
    [X] "Well, Senpai?"
    -[X] Let Mami catch up for as long as she needs, providing support as neccessary.
    [X] Once they're done, talk to Kazusa about Clear Seeds and how you'd like to visit Asunaro.
    -[X] If a visit can't be done from Mitakihara, then they're welcome to send a delegation here if they want their seeds cleared.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Comfort Mami
    -[X] Be as sappy and inspirational as only you can be.
    [X] Let Mami to take as much time catching up with her former student as she wants.
    [X] After introductions are made, share the reigns, and between yourself and Mami inform Kazusa about your abilities and arrange a visit to free them from the tyranny of grief-seed scarcity.
    -[X] As appropriate to the mood, allude that you'd be very happy to cooperate with the Saints both professionally and as friends of friends.
    -[X] If they are suffering from serious lack of cleansing, you're more than willing to make a trip over to there immediately.
    -[X] Otherwise, check if Mami wants to go with you, and schedule the visit accordingly.
    [X] If nothing unexpected crops up, farewell the Mikunis Kures Mikunis Kures.
    [X] Once outside the mansion, look to hold a private timestop conversation with Homura
    [X] Telepathy to Mami: "Take your time. Catch up with your friend. You're doing fine, Mami."
    -[X] Continue hugging her. Convey your support physically as much as possible.
    [X] Let Mami take the reins; if your input is needed, interject.
    [X] Pull Mami into the best hug you can manage, and just hold it. Heads on shoulders is ideal.
    [X] Quietly encourage her. Use light pushes, ideally phrased as questions, to move her forward if she stumbles; if she hits a wall, ask if she'll talk to you about how she's feeling, and make counterarguments or counter-assertions to whatever negative issues are preventing her from holding the conversation. If at any point she either can't or does not want to continue, take over.
    -[X] Avoid negative conversational turns. Example, one possible response to Kazusa's question is "Kyubey betrayed me." Push instead in a direction such as "I have a team now." Keep Mami thinking positive as much as possible.
    -[X] There will inevitably be pauses in the conversation from Mami's end -- run interference as needed with statements such as "just a moment, please."
    -[X] Keep Mami's gem clean.
    -[X] Quiet reassurances should be fit in where they seem well-placed. We're here for her.
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