- Location
- South Africa
As I'm Oriko, this is very scary.Ugo speaks to Oriko from outside the fourth wall.
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The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
The thing that sometimes makes me want to smack some sense into Oriko is that she didn't have to do what she did. There were ways to force Sayaka's family to leave their apartment that would have endangered or inconvenienced a lot less people. (Such as going there during the day when no one's home and setting a better-controlled fire or smashing a six-foot hole in the outside wall.) But because she's such a drama queen and borderline suicidal and convinced that only she can know best and wants to be the "hard woman making hard choices" and be hated for saving the world, she chose the dangerous, dramatic option most likely to make provoke us into killing her. Because then she'll be important!
For someone who wished to have meaning in her life, she sure seems to be more interested in having a meaningful death.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
She is farsighted, and focuses a lot on "the bigger picture", missing out on things right in front of her.
Also, she knows her objectives, what she wants to achieve, but her choice of methodology, the way she goes about things...
Also, she knows her objectives, what she wants to achieve, but her choice of methodology, the way she goes about things...
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I'm pretty sure she's regretting her choices already, and that's part of why she's lost her powers. She actually agrees and rejects what she did, rejects even making her Wish, since that lead to her making all these things that she's now realizing were wrong, not justified as she wanted to believe.
When you feel justified, you can do horrible things, but once you realize you weren't justified you realize you're a monster.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
For someone who wished to have meaning in her life, she sure seems to be more interested in having a meaningful death.
Yes.
I'm not joking, that's exactly the issue. Oriko was suicidal when she made her wish, and wishes run on intent. Oriko's power doesn't show her all possible futures, it shows her how to best martyr herself.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Huh, I sort of suspected something like that was at work, but I didn't know if it had ever been confirmed.
Atosen
A chimney
- Location
- on a roof in New Zealand
This is completely out of character. I don't know how you can even joke about it.
Sabrina would make a chain out of grief.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Antimagic tho.
Atosen
A chimney
- Location
- on a roof in New Zealand
Which is why Sabrina would create an anti-anti-magic construct, either with grief or grief-boosted enchantment. Obviously.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
The last time I downloaded and reread the .pdf, it was 2600 pages long, but luckily the there's a lot less text-per-page than printed books, so it's not actually longer than the unabridged Les Miserables. So, y'know... have fun with that.
- Location
- Austria
The last time I downloaded and reread the .pdf, it was 2600 pages long, but luckily the there's a lot less text-per-page than printed books, so it's not actually longer than the unabridged Les Miserables. So, y'know... have fun with that.
SV says "510k threadmarked words". Les Miserables is 655k words long (actually, didn't read it; is it good?).
OTOH, LoTR is 481k words, so PMAS is longer than it.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Fantastic book. Read it twice, once in high school almost twenty years ago and again a couple years ago. Most people these days are only familiar with the musical, but it really doesn't do the story justice, and it cuts out pretty much all of Valjean's most badass moments. (There was a 52-episode anime adaptation that comes a lot closer to covering the whole thing.) Do yourself a favor and get the annotated version, because there a lot of cultural references that would have made sense in 1830s France that are pretty obscure in 2016.
I even liked the writer's frequent digressions to talk about some bit of historical backstory tangential to the plot. Only parts where it dragged for me was a few times when somebody started speechifying for several pages straight and saying fuck-all of substance. There's only one of those speeches in the whole book that actually works, when Valjean pins the guy who tried to mug him on the ground and lectures him about how he needs to knock this shit off and start working for a living, because if he gets caught and sentenced to a chain gang he'll wind up working harder than any honest man ever has. "If you don't make work your friend, it'll make you its bitch," is only barely a paraphrase of the original quote.
I forgot they added that function. So, give it another year or so and PMAS will be longer than most of the famously long novels of human history?
- Location
- Austria
Well, thanks for recommendation, I'll probably get to it once I finish my current Abercrombie binge.Fantastic book. Read it twice, once in high school almost twenty years ago and again a couple years ago. Most people these days are only familiar with the musical, but it really doesn't do the story justice, and it cuts out pretty much all of Valjean's most badass moments. (There was a 52-episode anime adaptation that comes a lot closer to covering the whole thing.) Do yourself a favor and get the annotated version, because there a lot of cultural references that would have made sense in 1830s France that are pretty obscure in 2016.
I even liked the writer's frequent digressions to talk about some bit of historical backstory tangential to the plot. Only parts where it dragged for me was a few times when somebody started speechifying for several pages straight and saying fuck-all of substance. There's only one of those speeches in the whole book that actually works, when Valjean pins the guy who tried to mug him on the ground and lectures him about how he needs to knock this shit off and start working for a living, because if he gets caught and sentenced to a chain gang he'll wind up working harder than any honest man ever has. "If you don't make work your friend, it'll make you its bitch," is only barely a paraphrase of the original quote.
I forgot they added that function. So, give it another year or so and PMAS will be longer than most of the famously long novels of human history?
Also, according to Wiki, longest novel is ~2 million words long, so...longer than most, yes, but it's a long way to the top.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
All I know is that Firn deserves a forest of raised glasses for their endurance alone. Even ignoring the uniform quality of this story, there is a stunning amount of it.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Yeah, there are longer books, but War & Peace and Les Miserable are the references of choice when one needs a pop culture shorthand for "really long book".
(On the subject of really long PMMM fanworks, To The Stars is currently just under 595k words, so it's already passed War & Peace. It would be interesting to see how long the longest fanfics in human history are and how it compares to the longest professionally-published novels.)
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Fanfics, because of the episodic nature of their release, naturally trend towards a higher wordcount per-scene than published novels. The worlds longest fanfic, IIRC, is 4 million + words and still going. (Quality is mediocre, it's set in Smash Bros, of all things).
It's like comparing the total run time of movies vs. a full television show, basically.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
And most of those books were written before word processors and some before typewriters, so a straight wordcount is only relevant from the reader's perspective. Quality of writing aside, Les Mis almost certainly took more physical effort to write than that Smash Bros. fanfic.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
The thing that sometimes makes me want to smack some sense into Oriko is that she didn't have to do what she did. There were ways to force Sayaka's family to leave their apartment that would have endangered or inconvenienced a lot less people. (Such as going there during the day when no one's home and setting a better-controlled fire or smashing a six-foot hole in the outside wall.) But because she's such a drama queen and borderline suicidal and convinced that only she can know best and wants to be the "hard woman making hard choices" and be hated for saving the world, she chose the dangerous, dramatic option most likely to make provoke us into killing her. Because then she'll be important!
For someone who wished to have meaning in her life, she sure seems to be more interested in having a meaningful death.
To be fair, Oriko's objective wasn't to force Sayaka's family to leave their apartment, but to instill Sayaka with a deep sense of debt to Hitomi and others she can never pay off so that she'd contract and be able to defend herself/contribute.
Or atleast, that's my probable interpretation.
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
- Location
- Canada
Only temporarily! Sabrina's behaviour throughout this ordeal has been impeccable. She'd see that in time.
"lets just say it's rated for 18 and up, and leave it at that."
*Sayaka blushes*