Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Intel you run into a situation were you don't have crap ton of grief to throw about.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
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- Laniakea Supercluster
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- She/Her
...We, our allies, and literally anything we will most likely ever fight will both carry grief and generate grief, you realize? It's hard to imagine any situation where that wouldn't be true, especially since we carry Grief Seeds everywhere.
bird_poison
Knowing their wrath, unfettered and raw
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- margarita
Wouldn't such ocassion cause sabrina lots of grief? </joke>
Balduran
Smuggest Plague-Bearer
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- a quiet, rainy place
Are there more of those chess themed pictures? If so, could you throw out a link?
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- Voidbetweenstars
100 meter range and the fact that most people want to destroy the incubators.
And lacking a large portable storage.
And the fact that the end goal most likely will decrease the total amount of grief in existence.
As well as you know common sense of making sure that you have a back up in-case we don't have access to large amounts of grief.
Gadjo
Doka
100 meter range is overcome now with lasers- if we need a magic attack we have the combo finale, and if we must use a hammer over 100 meters it's most likely fired with grief.
We have grief seeds, which are literally storage units for grief. As in, that was their intended purpose by the incubators, so we totally have portable storage.
The end goal actually decreasing the grief in existence won't decrease the amount we have, cus as long as there are meguca to cleanse, we have a grief source.
Literally fighting incubators- like, in combat- is crazy imo in the first place, and if we did I sincerely hope our plan isn't to try and hit the cosmic monstrosity with a damn hammer. Hell, I usually disagree with plans to fight the incubators directly, but if we did I'd have to agree that it would only be through grief shenanigans.
And so far as having fallback plans, I think our absolute best fallback plans involve simply having grief on hand. Say, by having a grief seed in our pocket.
So this means they will probably fight to preserve Madoka as human with all they can.
Because Akuma is Ai incarnate, the last Devil, this is not surprising. They still have tendency to mock her (as seen in the last scenes of the Rebellion) if she behaves silly or is not honest - is lying.
They are still part of Homura. She never liked Sayaka, alright. And Homura HATES Octavia. Whenever Octavia appeared, everything went to hell for Homura ...
Also if Ai makes appearance while Homura is still Magical Girl, is there a probability, she could manifest Clara Dolls as well?
Appletank
Acquire Cheese
+ talk about all the grief floating around
1) Is there supposed to be some sort of connection between weapon and Meguca? Like, would they have different weapons with different wishes?
2) We can control existing grief with our wish. Can we .... "BAN" grief from existence by Hammertime?
3) Can we infuse our hammer with Grief? I don't know what this would do though.
4) Shouldn't we be able to telekinetically wield our hammer?
5) Does our hammer have some sort of quirk besides being a hammer? Like, Homura's is basically completely devoted to her wish, which is time-manipulation. Mami's ribbons are devoted to nothing, and it appears with enough effort, fuel, and time, she can basically do goddamn near anything. Not sure how Sayaka and Kyoko's weapons fit in this though. They don't seem to rely on magic as heavily.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
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- The Silver City
Maybe, but there's no way to test that because "Ai" is the True Miracle of Homura and Madoka connecting and fully understanding each other while they were outside of space and time.
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- Voidbetweenstars
Right....... about that. If Madoka truly connected and understood Homura then why exactly did she not see the events of rebellion taking place via you know understanding how Homura would react?
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
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- The Silver City
Because not even Homura knew she would react that way? She was coping with what happened until Wraith Arc fucked up her entire psyche, and then the flower field scene in Rebellion is what gave her the train of thought to become the Devil.
Understanding someone doesn't mean you can predict everything they'll ever think or do for the rest of their life.
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- Voidbetweenstars
No understanding someone truly means that you would know how they are going to react to something. Assuming Madoka watched Homura throughout the Wraith arc and regained all her memories she should be able to at least be aware of Homura's likelihood of going batshit insane.
Now the Idea that Homura truly understands Madoka and truly understanding 'God' would most likely grant benefits.
Gadjo
Doka
We tried to screw with our hammer with grief before- it doesn't work.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
It's the only collectible card game I know, OK?
I think I made the references as well as I could
I was thinking there might be a Grief Mechanic where Grief is lost by killing enemy Witch Cards, and obtained by using any card that's not a Seed Card, and by taking damage. First Magical Girl to reach their Grief Limit loses.
And I was thinking each Magical Girl would have two abilities, like Kyouko's Rosso Fantasma (fill her board with Taunt/Defender?) and Bead Chain Wall (one turn +1 to Ally Health and -1 to Enemy Attacks).
Of course, none of this was necessary for a silly omake.
Really like that idea for Brina's Card two-way effect. Specially if the cost is very prohibitive.
I found these from the same artist:
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
If ya wanna talk about legendary hammers in Japan, don't forget Uchide no Kozuchi! Why settle for just changing the hammer's size?
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
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- The Silver City
No, it really doesn't. Understanding Homura as she was at the time doesn't really equip one to deal with knowing what Homura would do after getting mindraped like three times.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
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- Somewhere Offscreen
RWBY might have had the hammer that fires grenades, but the Star Wars Saga Edition RPG had the grenade launcher that fires exploding hammers!
(Not really. It was a badly written rule that said that if you put a self-destruct on a weapon, it was "treated in all ways like a frag grenade." People on the forums then began joking that acting "in all ways" like a grenade meant that they could put this mod on a power hammer and fire it from a grenade launcher.)
Given that Mami found a way to make tiny explosive ribbons to use as firearm propellant, this seems entirely plausible.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Not going to comment on the rest of this. Just going to say, I'm uncomfortable using the fallen souls of magical girls as grief storage when we don't absolutely have to. We can come up with an alternative here if we actually put the time in to do it.
Reminder that Graf Eisen can grow to kaiju-smashing size.Sabrina's Magical Weapon Tech Three:
- Magical Hammer.
-- Graf Eisen.
--- The Biscuit Hammer.
---- The Hammer That Will Shatter The Heavens.
OK people, we've got a ways to go.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Classes, Part Two
Duelist
Fleet of foot and fleeter of mind, pick apart weaknesses with practiced ease. Those who think your direct approach makes you a dumb brute will be in for a shock!
Special Ability:
Requip: 2 Corruption - Equip a 1/2 Weapon.
Example Class Cards:
Parry: Common Spell, 3 Corruption. Until your next turn, whenever you would take damage, if you have a Weapon equipped, instead prevent that damage and reduce the durability of your Weapon by one.
Bladeweave: Uncommon Spell, Trap, 1 Corruption. When your Opponent's turn ends, deal 1 damage to each Enemy that attacked that turn. (Hidden Effect: If no enemies attacked, does not trigger.)
Quip: Rare Spell, 4 Corruption. Reduce target enemy's attack to zero until end of turn.
Kirika Kure: Legendary Ally, 4 Corruption. On-Play Effect: Silence all enemies. Your Opponent's Spells cost 2 more next turn. 5/2
Miki Sayaka: Legendary Ally, 5 Corruption. On-Play Effect: Copy the text of any other card in play. (Hidden Effect: Copied On-Play Effects trigger. Statistics are not copied.) 4/5
Sakura Kyoko: Legendary Ally, 5 Corruption. In combat, deals damage to enemies before they deal damage. (Hidden Effect: If this kills the enemy, no damage is taken.) 5/4
Duelist
Fleet of foot and fleeter of mind, pick apart weaknesses with practiced ease. Those who think your direct approach makes you a dumb brute will be in for a shock!
Special Ability:
Requip: 2 Corruption - Equip a 1/2 Weapon.
Example Class Cards:
Parry: Common Spell, 3 Corruption. Until your next turn, whenever you would take damage, if you have a Weapon equipped, instead prevent that damage and reduce the durability of your Weapon by one.
Bladeweave: Uncommon Spell, Trap, 1 Corruption. When your Opponent's turn ends, deal 1 damage to each Enemy that attacked that turn. (Hidden Effect: If no enemies attacked, does not trigger.)
Quip: Rare Spell, 4 Corruption. Reduce target enemy's attack to zero until end of turn.
Kirika Kure: Legendary Ally, 4 Corruption. On-Play Effect: Silence all enemies. Your Opponent's Spells cost 2 more next turn. 5/2
Miki Sayaka: Legendary Ally, 5 Corruption. On-Play Effect: Copy the text of any other card in play. (Hidden Effect: Copied On-Play Effects trigger. Statistics are not copied.) 4/5
Sakura Kyoko: Legendary Ally, 5 Corruption. In combat, deals damage to enemies before they deal damage. (Hidden Effect: If this kills the enemy, no damage is taken.) 5/4
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Gadjo
Doka
That's fair, but for the foreseeable future, we'll be carrying around unexperimented on grief seeds often times.
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- Voidbetweenstars
I Disagree that Madoka has ever fully understood Homura, but arguing about it here wold be ah distracting so I wont.