Hmm.

"If you do find something, well. Let me know - that really shouldn't happen."

Better?

This is the only thing we've come up with that will even vaguely give us a chance of talking with her in the future in a way that doesn't involve ambushing her. I'm all for it.

Oughta change our posture while we're doing it, maybe? And tone. This should be a 180 from our "schoolgirl / teenager" attitude. Ideally we'd leave her wondering if we were actually a crazy weirdo foreigner or if we were pretending to be.

Voted for.
 
Oh god that second red line's Sasa rage bait.

Why add lines that'll drive Sasa up the wall? :o
Isn't the entire idea of this vote to make Sasa shit herself with rage? Just doing it so that it spills over to Kyubey. Which... I'm not sure will work. We're implicitly setting ourselves against Kyubey here, and I imagine there's an outcome where he uses that to convince her that he's fighting a war against us and she uses her Wish to bad-end us. Or am I confusing it with a different proposal?
 
Isn't the entire idea of this vote to make Sasa shit herself with rage? Just doing it so that it spills over to Kyubey. Which... I'm not sure will work. We're implicitly setting ourselves against Kyubey here, and I imagine there's an outcome where he uses that to convince her that he's fighting a war against us and she uses her Wish to bad-end us. Or am I confusing it with a different proposal?

That was a different idea, and that idea would be pitting our social score against QB manipulation score, essentially. I'm not keen on that actually working.

[X] Okay, you don't want to talk; I get that. But the way you've said it tells me that you match the profile I'm looking for, that you're more important than you realize. Don't be so willing to give that up, especially not to... well, you'll see.
[X] I'll probably be around here again tomorrow. You can try looking me up, but you won't find me.
[X] Talk to Kyoko when you're finished with Sasa.
-[X] Um, yeah, sorry about that.
-[X] Be right there.
[X] Head over to Kyoko.
-[X] If you can do it by flying away from a dead-end alley, putting on a Grief-bended Ring of Invisibility, or some other way to play up your mysterious-ness for Sasa, do that.

Yeah, okay. I'm sold.

Suggestion.

Also what are we doing tomorrow? Are we really going to be around this mall?
 
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Edited.

[X] Okay, you don't want to talk; I get that.
-[X] Serious, no-nonsense tone. Drop the act. "But the way you've said it tells me that you match the profile I'm looking for, that you're more important than you realize. Don't be so willing to give that up, especially not to... well, you'll see."
[X] I'll probably be around here again sometime. You can try looking me up, but I'm fairly certain I don't have a legal identity to find. If you do find something, well. Let me know. That really shouldn't happen.
[X] Talk to Kyoko when you're finished with Sasa.
-[X] Um, yeah, sorry about that.
-[X] Be right there.
[X] Head over to Kyoko.
-[X] If you can do it by flying away from a dead-end alley, putting on a Grief-bended Ring of Invisibility, or some other way to play up your mysterious-ness for Sasa, do that.

[X-FILES INTENSIFY]

Sasa: "Oh, she's just a chunni - HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?!"
 
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"If you do find something, well. Let me know - that really shouldn't happen."

Better?
Even that's a bit arrogant. Remember that we want to be mysterious, but we don't want to be arrogant about how mysterious we are (which we kind of did by talking up how "complicated" our life is). That's why I phrased the vote the way I did; I wanted to make our life mysterious, but I also wanted it to seem like some of that mystery is unknown even to us, that we're kind of concerned about it. Eventually I'm planning on making the case that we're a victim of Incubator manipulation, that they're the reason we have no past and no ID. It even has the benefit of being technically true, which is the best kind of truth! :D
 
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Even that's a bit arrogant. Remember that we want to be mysterious, but we don't want to be arrogant about how mysterious we are (which we kind of did by talking up how "complicated" our life is). That's why I phrased the vote the way I did; I wanted to make our life mysterious, but I also wanted it to seem like some of that mystery is unknown even to us, that we're kind of concerned about it. Eventually I'm planning on making the case that we're a victim of Incubator manipulation, that they're the reason we have no past and no ID. It even has the benefit of being technically true, which is the best kind of truth! :D

"You won't find me." could also be seen as arrogant.

Maybe just "If you do find something... let me know."
 
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[X] Okay, you don't want to talk; I get that.
-[X] Serious, no-nonsense tone. Drop the act. "But the way you've said it tells me that you match the profile I'm looking for, that you're more important than you realize. Don't be so willing to give that up, especially not to... well, you'll see."
[X] I'll probably be around here again sometime. You can try looking me up, but I'm fairly certain I don't have a legal identity to find. If you do find something, well. Let me know. That really shouldn't happen.
[X] Talk to Kyoko when you're finished with Sasa.
-[X] Um, yeah, sorry about that.
-[X] Be right there.
[X] Head over to Kyoko.
-[X] If you can do it by flying away from a dead-end alley, putting on a Grief-bended Ring of Invisibility, or some other way to play up your mysterious-ness for Sasa, do that.

[X-FILES INTENSIFY]

Sasa: "Oh, she's just a chunni - HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?!"

I think any modifier on "i dont have an identity" is unneeded and makes us sound less confident rather than less arrogant. Scratch the "fairly" part? Maybe?

... We could pull something low-level, potentially, also? Something not flashy enough to be obviously magic, but "where the FUCK" enough to draw attention from Sasa, just enough to leave her asking if she was imagining things. Like, materializing a pair of shades from thin air. Just an idea.

"You won't find me." could also be seen as arrogant.

Maybe just "If you do find something... let me know."

Agreed.
 
"You won't find me." could also be seen as arrogant.

Maybe just "If you do find something... let me know."
I refer you back to my vote:
[X] Okay, you don't want to talk; I get that. But the way you've said it tells me that you match the profile I'm looking for, that you're more important than you realize. Don't be so willing to give that up, especially not to... well, you'll see.
[X] I'll probably be around here again tomorrow. You can try looking me up, but I'm pretty sure I don't have a legal identity to find. If you do find something, um, let me know? I've been trying to find out, well, anything about me for awhile now. No luck yet, but hey, maybe a fresh pair of eyes can help.
[X] Talk to Kyoko when you're finished with Sasa.
-[X] Um, yeah, sorry about that.
-[X] Be right there.
[X] Head over to Kyoko.
-[X] If you can do it by flying away from a dead-end alley, putting on a Grief-bended Ring of Invisibility, or some other way to play up your mysterious-ness for Sasa, do that.
Playing up mysterious victim rather than mysterious arrogant jerk.
 
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I refer you back to my vote:

Playing up mysterious victim rather than mysterious arrogant jerk.

Crap. Do we want the victim angle or the "Agent 00S, MSY" angle? If we want the victim, then isn't the "more important than you know" line the wtong message?

Just theoretically, would either of the votes work as well or better without the blue/red parts of the second lines?

more/less, yeah. The "tone" part is good. "Drop the act" and "sometime" are also good.
 
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Crap. Do we want the victim angle or the "Agent 00S, MSY" angle? If we want the victim, then isn't the "more important than you know" line the wtong message?
Specifically, I want to tell Sasa that we got into this meguca game because we were literally dying, that we have no memories and don't really know who we are, though we have suspicions, that we know that making a Wish is a shitty deal because the Incubators hide terrible things from the girls they're Contracting with, and that we're trying to prevent her from making a terrible mistake by dealing with the Incubators without knowing what she's getting into.

All of that has the benefit of being true. I want to play up being a victim of Incubator machinations because 1) we are, and 2) Sasa is less likely to think we're an arrogant douche if we act the victim rather than like Agent 006 of the MSY.
 
Specifically, I want to tell Sasa that we got into this meguca game because we were literally dying, that we have no memories and don't really know who we are, though we have suspicions, that we know that making a Wish is a shitty deal because the Incubators hide terrible things from the girls they're Contracting with, and that we're trying to prevent her from making a terrible mistake by dealing with the Incubators without knowing what she's getting into.

All of that has the benefit of being true. I want to play up being a victim of Incubator machinations because 1) we are, and 2) Sasa is less likely to think we're an arrogant douche if we act the victim rather than like Agent 006 of the MSY.

OK. Any idea how to run up a vote that pursues this in the same way Redshirt's pursues the Agent angle? Because that vote is a really effective one, IMO, and whatever image we want to pursue should be pursued in a similar manner. And the vote you put up... The first part of it is no good, at least.
 
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[X] Okay, you don't want to talk; I get that.
-[X] Serious, no-nonsense tone. Drop the act. "But the way you've said it tells me that you match the profile I'm looking for, that you're more important than you realize. Don't be so willing to give that up, especially not to... well, you'll see."
[X] Grief up a pair of glasses (just the rims, no glass) directly onto your face.
[X] I'll probably be around here again sometime. You can try looking me up, but I don't have a legal identity to find. If you do find something anyway, well. Let me know.
[X] Talk to Kyoko when you're finished with Sasa.
-[X] Um, yeah, sorry about that.
-[X] Be right there.
[X] Head over to Kyoko.
-[X] If you can do it by flying away from a dead-end alley, putting on a Grief-bended Ring of Invisibility, or some other way to play up your mysterious-ness for Sasa, do that.
 
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[] Try, and fail, to neuralyze her.
[] *sigh* Yeah, didn't think that'd work. So I guess I get to do this the hard way.
[] So you don't want to talk. I get that.
-[] ...

edit: vvv Neither do I! That's the fun part! :V
 
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OK. Any idea how to run up a vote that pursues this in the same way Redshirt's pursues the Agent angle? Because that vote is a really effective one, IMO, and whatever image we want to pursue should be pursued in a similar manner. And the vote you put up... The first part of it is no good, at least.
I'm not sure it needs to be. We're not a fumbling newbie; we're a victim, trying to prevent anyone else from being victimized like we are. Since we're not trying to sell a cover story (everything we're saying is true!), we don't need to work so hard on selling a lie.

As for the Agent angle of @Redshirt Army, all that's going to do is set us up as an arrogant douche. I mean, read that vote! Any random person you tell that to, even someone without Sasa's hangups will listen to that and think: "What an arrogant moron." It's a tough story to believe, and the Incubators will tear it to shreds. Why try for an act, when the truth is easier to sell and more believable?
:confused: I have no idea what we're trying to accomplish anymore.
We're trying to convince Sasa that we're a mysterious stranger who wants to talk to her about something, and admitting that yes we targeted her based on a profile. We play up our mysterious-ness by saying that as far as we know we don't have a real identity or name, and that if you can find one for us we'd be interested in seeing it.

This sets us up for later, where we tell her that the Incubators are Contracting girls without telling them what they're in for, like they did for us. We say there are horrible consequences, letting her think our amnesia is one such consequence, although what we're really talking about is turning into a Witch.
 
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I'm not sure it needs to be. We're not a fumbling newbie; we're a victim, trying to prevent anyone else from being victimized like we are. Since we're not trying to sell a cover story (everything we're saying is true!), we don't need to work so hard on selling a lie.

As for the Agent angle of @Redshirt Army, all that's going to do is set us up as an arrogant douche. I mean, read that vote! Any random person you tell that to, even someone without Sasa's hangups will listen to that and think: "What an arrogant moron." It's a tough story to believe, and the Incubators will tear it to shreds. Why try for an act, when the truth is easier to sell and more believable?

But if we can't pretend to be a Secret Agent of the TSAB, why am I even reading this story? :confused:

It's not like "arrogant moron" is an inaccurate summary of Sabrina's character anyway. :V
 
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[X] DB_Explorer

@DB_Explorer

Can you change 'tell her to flag you...' for 'I hope we meet again! We can have that ice cream then!'

... or something else less demanding?
[X] Telepathy Kyouko that you'll be there soon.
[X] Apologize to Sasa for the trouble
-[X] Tell her to flag you down next time she see's you for that ice cream.
[X] Head over to Kyoko
[x] Plan to use the Mall to do routine shopping so Sasa can run into you again.
 
But if we can't pretend to be a Secret Agent of the TSAB, why am I even reading this story? :confused:

It's not like "arrogant moron" is an inaccurate summary of Sabrina's character anyway. :V
"Arrogant moron" does not overlap with "flawless actress". Your plan will not work: it's a flimsy story, easy to break and hard to believe in the first place, and worst of all it's playing up Sabrina's arrogance and superiority to someone for whom arrogance and superiority are a trigger. Please, let's not go there; you're pretty much begging for Sasa to make a Wish spitefully targeting Sabrina in retribution.
 
"Arrogant moron" does not overlap with "flawless actress". Your plan will not work: it's a flimsy story, easy to break and hard to believe in the first place, and worst of all it's playing up Sabrina's arrogance and superiority to someone for whom arrogance and superiority are a trigger. Please, let's not go there; you're pretty much begging for Sasa to make a Wish spitefully targeting Sabrina in retribution.

Maybe. At least it'll be interesting. I'll vote for anything if it makes the social go away at this point.
 
Maybe. At least it'll be interesting. I'll vote for anything if it makes the social go away at this point.
What?

That's just throwing in the towel.

I mean, really?

That's just flipping the table and saying "I don't care what this does to quest events or the story, bored of social". And it'd be awful for characterization too.

I mean, Redshirt, you're basically saying with that you'd vote to ruin things with Sasa regardless of consequences in a way that'd potentially backfire on us. Because it'd be "interesting" and social is boring. :confused:
 
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