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A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
XD No, it was a different one. Two words were stuck together.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Well, I typo a lot.
You're missing a part of the first line.
Mmm... Actually, the 'out of reach' line is not likely to come into play, I think.
Wish we had more time. Like, maybe we could learn to replicate the effect of those little bits of Grief that always seem to go into the Grief Constructs.
Like, the rest of the Object could be done the Grief way, if we could just figure how to replace these bits with normal magic.
That would probably work for Gamer-Homura, but it probably won't work for us.
Slith10
Back from the dead and ready to party!
- Location
- New Zealand
Does that actually exist?
- Location
- South Africa
[x] Onmur
I'm not pointlessly giving up!
And Ugolino, if anything was counterproductive, it was spending that entire session on enchantment practice that didn't go anywhere.
Close:
• How do esoteric magical effects generally interact with normal physics? (DUNNO LOL Pretty much. He's explicitely says that he doesn't understand ho magic works.)
• What aspect of modern physics as understood by humans is most wrong? (EVERYTHING LOL Basically. He'll weasel out of it via the least helpful interpretations of "aspect" and "most wrong".)
• Can you combine to form a gigantic Mega-Kyuubey? (DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS! Pretty much. The answers are either "Yes.", "No." or "We can now.)
I'm not pointlessly giving up!
And Ugolino, if anything was counterproductive, it was spending that entire session on enchantment practice that didn't go anywhere.
Answers for Pointless Questions:
• How do you keep those golden hoops suspended? (Vague Bullcrap)
- Where are the Incubators from? Another galaxy? Another universe? (Something vague and technically true, will potentially make Kyuubey keep a closer eye on us)
- How does your species reproduce? (Potentially ditto)
- Why do you have big fluffy ears if your primary means of communication is telepathy? (Cuteness)
- Why do you eat your own dead bodies? (Evidence disposal/nutrition?)
- Can Magical Girls die of old age? (Better off not knowing this, more likely to overcome the impossible if we don't know it is impossible here)
- Can I speak with your supervisor? I'd like to file a customer service complaint. (HAHAHAHAHAHA)
- Are you familiar with the concept of informed consent? (they are informed, they just don't ask the right questions.
- If the complete extinction of your species would permanently overcome entropy, would you implement such a solution? (HAHAHAHAHA)
- Why haven't I met any Incubators besides you? Will you introduce me to some? (Might result in Two-bey following us around because we gave them permission relating to some rule they have for Harvesting/etc)
- Do you ever do anything that isn't for the purpose of overcoming entropy? (Why would he?)
- What will you do once you've overcome entropy? (Continue being an asshole Bunny-cat)
- How does Homura's hairflip work? (MAGIC)
• How do esoteric magical effects generally interact with normal physics? (DUNNO LOL)
• What aspect of modern physics as understood by humans is most wrong? (EVERYTHING LOL)
• Can you combine to form a gigantic Mega-Kyuubey? (DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!)
)Close:
- Where are the Incubators from? Another galaxy? Another universe? ("A place that would be considered far away." Makes him more suspicious.)
- How does your species reproduce? ("By increasing our number." Also makes him more suspicious.)
- Why do you have big fluffy ears if your primary means of communication is telepathy? ("Not everything that makes sound has thoughts.")
- Why do you eat your own dead bodies? (Evidence disposal/nutrition? We know they eat. Also makes him more suspicious.)
- Can Magical Girls die of old age? (The possible answers are "yes" and "I am unaware of a magical girl who has died of old age")
- Can I speak with your supervisor? I'd like to file a customer service complaint. ("You are not physically incapable of doing so")
- Are you familiar with the concept of informed consent? ("I am aware that humans have such a concept")
- If the complete extinction of your species would permanently overcome entropy, would you implement such a solution? ("If the complete extinction of humanity would permanently overcome entropy, would you personally kill every human for us?" This would also make him more suspicious.)
- Why haven't I met any Incubators besides you? Will you introduce me to some? (Might result in Two-bey following us around because we gave them permission relating to some rule they have for Harvesting/etc Yes. This could possibly result in a second Incubator following us around who is unbound by the promises we made Kyubey make)
- Do you ever do anything that isn't for the purpose of overcoming entropy? (If he says "Yes." he'll end there. That would also make him ore suspicious.)
- What will you do once you've overcome entropy? (Continue being an asshole Bunny-cat. Not in those words, but it's what it'll come down to. Again, it'll make him more suspicious. The alternative is "That will never happen")
- How does Homura's hairflip work? (MAGIC Basically. "Magical Girls defy logic")
• How do esoteric magical effects generally interact with normal physics? (DUNNO LOL Pretty much. He's explicitely says that he doesn't understand ho magic works.)
• What aspect of modern physics as understood by humans is most wrong? (EVERYTHING LOL Basically. He'll weasel out of it via the least helpful interpretations of "aspect" and "most wrong".)
• Can you combine to form a gigantic Mega-Kyuubey? (DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS! Pretty much. The answers are either "Yes.", "No." or "We can now.)
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Since we're flying back, we have some dead time to cover. This would be the time where we try some 'experiment' or another.
What can we do? Must be something that won't take long:
- Book of Knowledge (ask and receive).
- Grief deletion (just will Grief to stop existing).
- Spontaneous Grief creation (not multiplication; just will Grief into existance).
- Soul Range extension (not likely to work).
- Grief power+ (make the 'Ioun Stone' (magical sense extension) and try putting more Grief into it than seems nominal. See if that works for making it stronger).
- Try to copy those 'motes' of Grief that hold our Grief stuff together, out of magic.
I'm sure there are some other ideas for short things we want to try.
What can we do? Must be something that won't take long:
- Book of Knowledge (ask and receive).
- Grief deletion (just will Grief to stop existing).
- Spontaneous Grief creation (not multiplication; just will Grief into existance).
- Soul Range extension (not likely to work).
- Grief power+ (make the 'Ioun Stone' (magical sense extension) and try putting more Grief into it than seems nominal. See if that works for making it stronger).
- Try to copy those 'motes' of Grief that hold our Grief stuff together, out of magic.
I'm sure there are some other ideas for short things we want to try.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
pantherasapiens
you were always my best friend
- Location
- somewhere over your shoulder
It's a (new-ish) quest I'm running (rather poorly), sorry for the leakage!
Though it has some things in similar, such as the proliferation of SCIENCE...
Though it has some things in similar, such as the proliferation of SCIENCE...
Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
- Location
- The centre of the Multiverse
Well guys, here's something cute I made for a certain someone's birthday today.
"Hey, Madoka!"
"What?"
"Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Madoka! Happy birthday to you."
"Th-thank you, that was very nice of you to do that for me"
"Hey!
"What?"
"I wanted to do that."
"What?"
"Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Madoka! Happy birthday to you."
"Th-thank you, that was very nice of you to do that for me"
"Hey!
"What?"
"I wanted to do that."
1. Pointless. Too nonspecific and win-everything to get the result we want. It's literally asking Firn to give us plot points.
2. Why?
3. Again, why? Grief is not something we have in short supply, or ever will.
4. Not likely to work especially with two minutes worth of time but something that's actually useful
5. Why would overcharging it with grief make it "better"? We still have the range limit.
I'd rather fail at enchantment practice than do anything in Onmur's vote or Sereg's list of ways to give the bunnycat excuses to question us- and I wasn't all that thrilled by this latest enchantment session either. But at least it had a sensible goal.
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Oriko's the oracle. Not us. It's going to fail just as thoroughly as if we try replicating timestop because that isn't our wish, our magic, or at all possible with either.
Kyubey will feed us nonspecific "I only ommitted everything of value!" bullshit, take notes on everything we ask, and use the chance to ask questions of his own. We get nothing out of those questions except tipping our hand and/or wasting an update on actively shooting ourselves in the foot by talking to him. Kyubey can and will shut up rather than reveal incriminating information anyway so it's kind of stupid to want to try and trick the thousands of years old hivemind into telling us anything of value that we don't already know- our metaknowledge has told us more about him than talking to him ever will.
Remember how chatting with the bunnycat went in canon, or have you given up on the whole "OVERTHROW THE QB" thing?
Muramasa
Best Girl
Because encumbrance is annoying and it's good to find out that if we need to we can make room for more grief on the spot without having to make time for coobs. I can support that.
Again, this is not something that should be a priority and where a success would be more or less pointless. When the alternative is just stuffing grief into QB- and we're not escaping him one way or another, we all know that- I still don't see this as a good use of time and effort.
What, are we just going to stop feeding Kyubey marbles? I'm sure that wouldn't prompt him to step up his campaign to get rid of us. He's still keeping up a veneer of civility for now- as much as it's an act to lull us into a false sense of security, it isn't the worst approach we could be dealing with.
Besides, we've been lugging around tons of grief with no issues whatsoever for the entire quest. Seems a bit silly to get worried about it now of all times.
Grief is the one thing that will never be in short supply, and that we'll never have trouble getting rid of.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
What are you calling 'priority', exactly? Is not doing anything on the way back to the school a higher priority than finding out if we can avoid having to deal with KB for Grief disposal?
What do you suggest we do while we're flying?
Muramasa
Best Girl
That's not what I'm arguing this time at all. You kinda missed the point.
Also it's a test during a time in which were doing nothing. Nothings being wasted.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Actually, creating/destroying grief seems like it would have interesting metaphysical implications, especially if hope/grief is conserved, as it seems to be based on explanations of the magical girl system.
Literally creating/destroying a fundamental component of the laws of that universe is hardly pointless, particularly if it can be applied to more conceptual grief.
Literally creating/destroying a fundamental component of the laws of that universe is hardly pointless, particularly if it can be applied to more conceptual grief.
Eh. Assumed you were referring to the grief-destruction again.
Meh, better to literally just go there rather than >random science again. When at best nothing's going to come of it, and there's a tiny chance it might just backfire, why bother?
In the short term? It really is in terms of tangible results. And honestly...if hope/grief is conversed? Destroying grief sounds like a really really bad idea. I'm perfectly happy not poking that particular problem in this way.
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- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
In the short term, dewitching research is pointless in terms of tangible results, since even when we crack it, which will take a fair amount of time we aren't spending on other things, we'll have to be very careful about bringing it up to avoid a massive pile of problems.
Define 'short-term' and 'tangible results', please. Because having an additional hook to use on Kyuubey (the ability to deny him a resource that would otherwise inevitably come to him and literal creation ex-nihilo of the thing he set up a massive industrial depression engine for), as well as the ability to acquire literally unlimited power (create grief, grief->energy) is a pretty damn tangible result, and frankly, since it falls under our actual wish (we wished to control grief, not souls, remember?), it should take less time to do so as well.
Define 'short-term' and 'tangible results', please. Because having an additional hook to use on Kyuubey (the ability to deny him a resource that would otherwise inevitably come to him and literal creation ex-nihilo of the thing he set up a massive industrial depression engine for), as well as the ability to acquire literally unlimited power (create grief, grief->energy) is a pretty damn tangible result, and frankly, since it falls under our actual wish (we wished to control grief, not souls, remember?), it should take less time to do so as well.