...magical girls have never been truly threatened by a fall. Terminal velocity isn't a threat to a meguca, it seems. We'll be fine.
We did the whole falling thing when we opened the door to our Barrier a couple stories above ground. It wasn't threatening, no, but it was surprising and unnerving. I'd prefer not to have a repeat of that when it's easy enough to make a platform to stand on.
 
If you mean the frequent and consistent deconstructing of Sabrina's handling of matters in Sendai and her conduct towards Mami and her friends in general...

I absolutely and whole heartedly agree.

I mean, it was an interesting, if disturbing view point to take for awhile, all things considered but it has gotten to the point that we're now constantly second guessing Sabrina's actions. Are we being too controlling? Are we patronizing? Are we stepping on 'x's agency? Won't this make the limpeting worse?

Something has gone horribly, horribly wrong here.
We collectively feel guilty. We knew things, we had the power to fix things. We tried to act, and things aren't fixed. Whether or not we even had a chance is irrelevant. We care about these girls, we want to help them, but we just seem to be making things worse, or at least it feels that way at times. We want to help so badly that whenever things get worse, we react very, very poorly. We blame each other for the shortcomings (real or imagined) because we should be making things better.
 
We collectively feel guilty. We knew things, we had the power to fix things. We tried to act, and things aren't fixed. Whether or not we even had a chance is irrelevant. We care about these girls, we want to help them, but we just seem to be making things worse, or at least it feels that way at times. We want to help so badly that whenever things get worse, we react very, very poorly. We blame each other for the shortcomings (real or imagined) because we should be making things better.
We kind of are, though? Mami is actually facing her depression rather than simply avoiding it (bear in mind, she commits suicide in one timeline) and is no longer being so closely manipulated by Kyubey. You might be thinking that the limpet thing is a huge step backwards, and it is, but she's also on the path to being alive and totally informed. Those two things have never coincided for her before. Informing her of everything will be a painful process. furthermore, Homura has someone she trusts (a little), the sendai conflict was resolved without casualties, Masami isn't a witch, Nagisa isn't a witch, Oriko was detained...

People overlook that while Sabrina does break everything, often it's for the better.
 
We collectively feel guilty. We knew things, we had the power to fix things. We tried to act, and things aren't fixed. Whether or not we even had a chance is irrelevant. We care about these girls, we want to help them, but we just seem to be making things worse, or at least it feels that way at times. We want to help so badly that whenever things get worse, we react very, very poorly. We blame each other for the shortcomings (real or imagined) because we should be making things better.
I doubt everyone is feeling guilty. I don't feel guilty at all.
We may have screwed up sometimes, but all in all we did achieve a lot of good things.
  • Mami is still alive and is starting to get some friends and even got rid of Kyubey. She also seems to get better, if very slowly.
  • We resolved the whole Sendai incident without anyone dying and how the hell should we have known that Akiko was going to break down, as soon as she lost. Sure we could have probably done a better job at negotiating, but ultimately it was Akiko who attacked us first and broke off negotiations.
  • Then we also saved Nagisa and Masami and Hiroko.
  • Homura seems a little more happy than in canon, if exasperated with Sabrina.
  • Oriko and Kirika are both alive and hopefully on our side (and really cute together.)
  • We're healing Kyouske and noone has contracted yet.
  • Ono hasn't become the glass witch yet.
A lot of the time, when we screwed up it was things we couldn't really predict or times when we read the situation wrong an came to the wrong conclusion.
We are trying our best, but when everyone around you needs some real help from a professional due to mental trauma, I'd say we are actually doing a fairly good job.

Edit: I just remembered that some civilians actually may have died in Sendai, due to the Kuvira rampage, but there wasn't really anything we could have done about that once the fighting started and without knowing, where Kuvira was hiding.

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[x] o3o

It's only natural that we'd feel guilty when it looks like things are getting worse because of us. It's because we're invested.
 
[x] o3o

I'm with Gadjo and Guilop on the subject re:Sabrina's sensitivity, but I admit to also being more cautious than is probably okay. This is partly to do with my own emotional abuse, but while I acknowledge breaking Mami was ultimately good for her, my instincts keep making me rail against any train of thought that tries to justify it or let it sit easily. I don't want it to become a trend, and I also find Sabrina second-guessing herself like this to be a fairly interesting flaw.

Because it makes her a very reasonable extrapolation of a Madohomu daughter. What noooooooooow oh shiiiiiit.
 
Redonkulous. If she was a Madohomu daughter, she would look like this.

That's discrimination! Do you really think a demi-god/devil in a technicolor hair world can't pop up with random colouring in her hair/eyes?

:p

Jokes aside, can we run Sabrina's face through a facial recognition system and crosscheck with national databases? We could do this at the same time we ask Miss Pixels for a fake ID?
 
I find the over-analysis of our actions regarding how it would effect x's feelings to be Sabrina taking Kiraka's advice from many updates ago (I believe it was Interloper 16). You know, the "love is an infinity of limitations" and the "love her, be there, be patient". These ideas keep getting rehashed whenever we vote now. All the aggravation over Mami going Limpet, and how pretty much each vote takes steps to help it.

hell, most of the last votes argument was less about "are we sure we can remove the Witch Kiss safely?" and more "what answer will best help Mami's recovering self-confidence" even boonrunner's 'argue back' style vote was mostly because the idea of just straight agreeing felt patronizing and wanted to push Mami to go a bit farther and act as a equal.
 
Our Benefactor pt. 29
You turn around, looking back down the path. Ethereal, gleaming trails of vapour arc out, forming interlocking fans of lethal firepower captured in the frozen grasp of the timestop. Behind you, a gentle shower of grenades on the cusp of detonation, as well as Mami's Tiro Finale shot stand poised to slam into Elsa Maria.

"Maybe we should back up a little? Just in case?" you murmur. "It couldn't hurt to have a little more time to react to things."

"Good idea," Mami agrees, starting to back away from the kneeling figure of Elsa Maria.

Homura doesn't respond verbally, simply walking away from the Witch, apparently unconcerned.

The stygian darkness of the ground continues to moan under your feet, unintelligible almost-words in a low, constant mutter as the three of you gain some distance from the Witch. You pick your way around the smoky grey lines sketched through the air by the passage of the fanning arcs of firepower.

"By the way, um," you say. "Did anyone hear... a voice when you came into the Barrier?"

Mami blinks. "Umm. Do you mean the..." she indicates the ground.

"No, I do mean a voice-voice," you say, frowning. What was it? You have the distinct impression someone asked you who you were, but you're not entirely sure what that was...

Then again, you're not even sure you're able to answer that question, in all honesty.

Mami shakes her head. "No, I didn't," she says.

"Hmm. Homura?" You glance over at the time traveller.

She shakes her head, a frown that mirrors your own crossing her face. "Nothing beyond the Barrier."

"Is something wrong, Sabrina?" Mami asks.

You grimace. "No, I must've imagined it. Probably just the Barrier," you say, tapping a foot against the ground.

Mami doesn't look entirely convinced, giving you a concerned look. You smile at her, shaking your head. She gives you a weak smile in response.

"OK, Homura," you say. "Go for it, I think?" Elsa Maria's still within your range, and you focus, reaching out with metaphorical fingers and ready to rip into the body of the Witch.

Mami tenses, drawing one more musket from her chest, and holds it tightly to herself in readiness. Homura nods, and reaches for her shield. She cranks it across with a sharp jerk and a humming of gears.

Hundreds of bullets and musket balls slam home simultaneously. The roar of noise runs together, a cacaphonous sledgehammer of sound smashed against your ears. Familiars explode, torn and shredded by the rivers of precisely placed firepower. A staccato series of dull whumps are Homura's grenades.

Mami's Tiro Finale crashes into Elsa Maria, the impact more felt than heard. The Witch is smashed to the ground, seemingly rooted on the spot but pounded into the floor by the enormous impact and shredded by shrapnel.

You reach out with your powers for the nightmare figure of the Witch, tearing at the Grief. You pull, and the figure shivers, deforming and melting away in wispy, guttering flickers. Grief pours into the air, the figure practically sublimating, and Elsa Maria shrieks, thrashing weakly.

Elsa Maria dies.

The monstrance, once more a vivid crimson, shatters with a sharp crack. The ground shudders beneath your feet, and the Barrier starts to waver. The monochrome landscape shimmers like a mirage, stark blacks and whites bleeding away.

You let the Grief of Elsa Maria go. It drains away, swirling down to a single point as the Barrier fades. There's a quiet ping, just audible over the dying echoes of noise, and the Grief Seed drops to the floor.

Falling. You find yourself falling again as the abyssal ground fades away to nothing. Mami and Homura are falling beside you, an-

A ribbon snaps around your waist.

Your fall shifts into a smooth swing, and that building's coming up awfully fast and you grab the ribbon and twist midair. You slam feetfirst into the wall, as if you're doing a particularly energetic bout of abseiling. A quick glance about shows that Mami's just a little bit above you, looking down at you in concern, and Homura's somehow managed to land safely on a girder.

"I'm OK," you call to Mami with a smile.

She nods shakily, and begins letting herself down. You feel your ribbon extending too, and you let yourself slip down the wall slowly. A quick scan of the area, just to be sure... there's nothing in the area. Or nothing new, anyway. You can sense Sayaka in the distance, the bindings around her glowing with magic.

Homura's waiting for you when you get to the ground, Grief Seed in hand.

"Hey," you say, smiling at her. "Good hunt."

She nods slightly.

Mami nods. "It was, though it was a little... odd," she says.

A flicker of something, too fast to see, crosses Homura's face, and she nods again at Mami.

"Anyway, cleansing, everyone?" you ask, already raising a hand. "And um, may I take the Seed?"

"Take it," Homura says, holding out her hand, presenting both her Soul Gem and the Grief Seed to you. Mami just smiles, and tilts her head towards you.

You take the Seed from Homura with a quick smile, and you flex your will slightly to pull the Grief free from Mami and Homura's Soul Gems. You cleanse your own as an afterthought, crushing all the Grief down to your usual marbles and tucking them away into your bag, and you smile around at them.

"Ah... we should probably check on Sayaka," Mami says. "She's probably awake, by now."

"Yeah, let's go," you agree, turning to head in that direction.

Homura follows, frowning. "It's strange that Miki Sayaka was the only one Kissed by the Witch," she notes quietly.

"Hmm?" you say, glancing back at her.

"That's... true," Mami says, looking thoughtful. "Witches usually Kiss their victims in groups."

"Hey! Is someone there? Mami? Sabrina?" Sayaka's voice bounces off the derelict buildings, cutting off any response you might have made.

You break out into a jog, Mami and Homura just a hair behind, and you round the corner to find Sayaka very much awake, and struggling hard against the ribbon bindings. She's still in the lee of the wall, and she's lying face up - she can't see you yet.

"We're here!" you call.

"Sabrina?" Sayaka relaxes slightly, her struggles stilling. "W-what's going on?"

Mami flicks her fingers at Sayaka, and the ribbons fall away from her. Sayaka immediately twists free, and struggles to a sitting position before you reach her. "W-what's going on? Where am I?" She looks around frantically, before her eyes settle on you.

[] Write-in

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Well, then.
 
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[X] Tell Sayaka she nearly fell victim to a Witch.
[X] Take her home.
[X] Telepathy Homura and ask if she's still up for the "shopping trip".
-[X] If yes, ask Mami if she minds if we go with Homura. Remind her that we'll be back shortly, thanks to timestop and all of that.
-[X] If no, go home with Mami.
 
You let the Grief of Elsa Maria go. It drains away, swirling down to a single point as the Barrier fades. There's a quiet ping, just audible over the dying echoes of nose, and the Grief Seed drops to the floor.
Kinda wondering what would happen, if we didn't allow the grief to drain away. Proabably a bad idea.

I also think it should be noise and not nose.
 
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"This is... an odd way of fighting," Mami says, almost conversationally even as she kicks another musket from the ground and into her waiting hands with a deft flick of her foot.

Homura grunts in response, deftly replacing the magazine in her rifle with a fresh one pulled from her shield. The motions are brisk and almost instinctual, born of long practice. "It's safer," she allows, voice flat.

"It is," Mami agrees.
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"Hey," you say, smiling at her. "Good hunt."

She nods slightly.

Mami nods. "It was, though it was a little... odd," she says.

A flicker of something, too fast to see, crosses Homura's face, and she nods again at Mami.
Ooooooooooooooooooooddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd...

I guess Mami's not very comfortable with timestop? Then again, only Homura is, really.
 
I wonder if Homura's remembering every other time Mami's reacted to stopped time. It seems like the weirdness would get to her consistently across timelines.

[q] "I have you now, my pretty!"
*Facepalm*

Should've said that before she got un-ribboned!

[X] Help Sayaka up.
[X] Firmly: Ask her if she's hurt, and how does she feel.
[X] If she's fine, relief: Assure her everything's fine now. Tell her she got Witch Kissed, but we got a warning. Ask Sayaka what's the last thing she remembers is.
[X] Apologize for kind of breaking into her home while looking for her. Ask her if it's normal for her parents to turn in this early.
[X] If Sayaka's feeling well enough, offer to take her home.

Tentative vote, bringing up some points from the previous vote, to make sure they're not forgotten.


Heeeeeyyy... We're pretty sure Sayaka got targeted just to get at us, right? Us, as in either Sabrina or Homura or our whole group.

So... Should we bring this up at some point? An apology?
 
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*Facepalm*

Should've said that before she got un-ribboned!

[X] Help Sayaka up.
[X] Firmly: Ask her if she's hurt, and how does she feel.
[X] If she's fine, relief: Assure her everything's fine now. Tell her she got Witch Kissed. Ask Mami to explain Witch Kisses if Sayaka doesn't know about them. Ask Sayaka what the last thing she remembers.
[X] Apologize (?), we kind of broke in to her home while looking for her. Ask her if it's normal for her parents to turn in this early.
[X] If Sayaka's feeling well enough, offer to take her home.

Tentative vote, bringing up some points from the previous vote, to make sure they're not forgotten.


Heeeeeyyy... We're pretty sure Sayaka got targeted just to get at us, right? Us, as in either Sabrina or Homura or our whole group.

So... Should we bring this up at some point? An apology?
Right now we have no idea if that's the case.

[X] Help Sayaka up.
[x]Grief Sofa for the blueberry.
[X] Firmly: Ask her if she's hurt, and how she feels.
[X] If she's fine, relief: Assure her everything's fine now. Tell her she got Witch Kissed, but we got a warning. Ask Sayaka what's the last thing she remembers is.
[X] Apologize for kind of breaking into her home while looking for her. Ask her if it's normal for her parents to turn in this early.
[X] If Sayaka's feeling well enough, offer to take her home.
 
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[X] Help Sayaka up.
[X] Firmly: Ask her if she's hurt, and how she feels.
[X] If she's fine, relief: Assure her everything's fine now. Tell her she got Witch Kissed, but we got a warning. Ask Sayaka what's the last thing she remembers is.
[X] Apologize for kind of breaking into her home while looking for her. Ask her if it's normal for her parents to turn in this early.
[X] If Sayaka's feeling well enough, offer to take her home.
 
So far there's no evidence for that...
Evidence that it's a trap or evidence that it's safe? Yes.


Does Sayaka know what a Witch Kiss is?


... Will this become a thing? Between Sabrina and Sayaka, I mean. Every week, a Traumatic Magical Event requires Sabrina to break into Sayaka's home. Somehow, this is a punishment for all the waifu jokes.
 
Evidence that it's a trap or evidence that it's safe? Yes.


Does Sayaka know what a Witch Kiss is?


... Will this become a thing? Between Sabrina and Sayaka, I mean. Every week, a Traumatic Magical Event requires Sabrina to break into Sayaka's home. Somehow, this is a punishment for all the waifu jokes.


In the end, she contracts to stop Sabrina breaking the windows.

Mami probably gave her a rundown...though she did miss the demonstration thanks to Sabrina inadvertently...getting that woman killed by existing. Oops. :confused:
 
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