AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
I kind of want to work on making Homura move into the Tomoe home. It'll make things easier on literally everyone involved.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Can you imagine if we get both Homura and Kyouko to move in with us?
EDIT: And Yuma.
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EtchedSteel
*mumble mumble*
- Location
- Lima. Peru
Or if we all moved in with Nagisa.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I don't think Shin would like that.
- Location
- Canada
If only we had heroic, sword-wielding idiot who makes a contract to save others and was betrayed by their ideals as a frie-
Step 1's having her sleep over more often.
...We're not tsundere. Thankfully.If only we had heroic, sword-wielding idiot who makes a contract to save others and was betrayed by their ideals as a frie-
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Oriko: "Kirika, get the lights ready."
Kirika: "Yes, Oriko!" *Runs off*
Oriko: *Megaphone* "OK, Homura, you just came back from a horrible-"
Homura: "I know my lines."
Oriko: "You just saw a good friend d-"
Homura: *Glare* "I'm fine."
Oriko: "... OK. Sabrina! One of your best friends was just murdered. You're having trouble even accepting this and are hurting, with me so far?"
Sabrina: "Yup!"
Oriko: "Hurting."
Sabrina: "Ah... I mean, I follow, yeah." *Sighs*
Oriko: "Better. Now, you're not in a good state of mind, and want to be alone right now, so when Homura tries to reach out and help, you'll lash out, tell her off and run away, got it?"
Sabrina: "Tsundere much?"
Oriko: "Got it?"
Sabrina: "I mean, sounds easy enough!"
Oriko: "Very well, with feeling now. Three, two, one... Action!"
*Lights focus on Homura and Sabrina. In the background, a rainstorm can be heard.*
Sabrina: *Wide eyed stare, covernig her mouth* "Wha... what. What j-just... happened? What's going on!"
Homura: *Visibly trembling* "It's... not your fault. It's just the life she lead. I-"
Sabrina: "W-What are you t... talking about! How can you... say that?" *Starts hyperventilating*
Homura: *Turns away, eyes closed* "I know she was your friend. But this is the path we chose." *Lights dim, spotlight focusing on Homura.* "We who choose to fight for Justice are never rewarded. There is not enough Justice in this World for us to partake in." *Shakes head* "We simply are those who make the sacrifice so others can live in peace. If you cherished her, just..." *Voice cracks* "Remember her as a dear friend, and know that she died proud of her own choices."
Homura: *Slowly looks up* "I know this is hard. But you're not alone. If you need a friend, I- Mmmpf!"
Oriko: "CUT! Sabrina, what are you doing!"
Sabrina: *Hugs Homura harder* "It's so saaaad..." *Sobs*
Homura: *Flails arms trying to push Sabrina away*
Sabrina: "It's OK, Homura! It'll be OK..."
Kirika: "Um..."
Sabrina: *Looks up*
Kirika: "You remember this is a play, right?"
Sabrina: "... I knew that." *Doesn't let go*
Oriko: *Covers own face with hands*
Kirika: "Yes, Oriko!" *Runs off*
Oriko: *Megaphone* "OK, Homura, you just came back from a horrible-"
Homura: "I know my lines."
Oriko: "You just saw a good friend d-"
Homura: *Glare* "I'm fine."
Oriko: "... OK. Sabrina! One of your best friends was just murdered. You're having trouble even accepting this and are hurting, with me so far?"
Sabrina: "Yup!"
Oriko: "Hurting."
Sabrina: "Ah... I mean, I follow, yeah." *Sighs*
Oriko: "Better. Now, you're not in a good state of mind, and want to be alone right now, so when Homura tries to reach out and help, you'll lash out, tell her off and run away, got it?"
Sabrina: "Tsundere much?"
Oriko: "Got it?"
Sabrina: "I mean, sounds easy enough!"
Oriko: "Very well, with feeling now. Three, two, one... Action!"
*Lights focus on Homura and Sabrina. In the background, a rainstorm can be heard.*
Sabrina: *Wide eyed stare, covernig her mouth* "Wha... what. What j-just... happened? What's going on!"
Homura: *Visibly trembling* "It's... not your fault. It's just the life she lead. I-"
Sabrina: "W-What are you t... talking about! How can you... say that?" *Starts hyperventilating*
Homura: *Turns away, eyes closed* "I know she was your friend. But this is the path we chose." *Lights dim, spotlight focusing on Homura.* "We who choose to fight for Justice are never rewarded. There is not enough Justice in this World for us to partake in." *Shakes head* "We simply are those who make the sacrifice so others can live in peace. If you cherished her, just..." *Voice cracks* "Remember her as a dear friend, and know that she died proud of her own choices."
Homura: *Slowly looks up* "I know this is hard. But you're not alone. If you need a friend, I- Mmmpf!"
Oriko: "CUT! Sabrina, what are you doing!"
Sabrina: *Hugs Homura harder* "It's so saaaad..." *Sobs*
Homura: *Flails arms trying to push Sabrina away*
Sabrina: "It's OK, Homura! It'll be OK..."
Kirika: "Um..."
Sabrina: *Looks up*
Kirika: "You remember this is a play, right?"
Sabrina: "... I knew that." *Doesn't let go*
Oriko: *Covers own face with hands*
You win this one.
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If only we had heroic, sword-wielding idiot who makes a contract to save others and was betrayed by their ideals as a frie-
Well, Sabrina does really enjoy trolling Sayaka.
While that is true...
"I-It's not like I actually care about you or anything! It's just that your precognition is useful and I don't want all that effort of keeping you alive to go to waste, b-baka!"
There's still a lot left to discuss. For one thing, Oriko still hasn't described her vision in any detail. Cross examining Oriko should help reassure Homura that we're not putting blind trust in a Seer who is known to have faulty visions and faulty plans:
[x] Ask Oriko to explain her old prediction for Mami's benefit, how it changed and now how it's changed back and what the similarities and differences between the original and current predictions are.
[x] Explain to Mami that Sabrina can change make actions that Oriko would not have predicted, so we should be capable of stopping any threats that Oriko sees.
[x] Ask Oriko: Could someone or something be interfering with your visions? Maybe even giving you false ones?
[x] Sayaka is still our current and most urgent priority.
-[x] Ask for more details on Sayaka's situation. How is the witch endangering her?
--[x] Is she okay? Is there anyone else with her?
--[x] Is there anyone else involved? Other magical girls?
--[x] Ask if Madoka and Hitomi are okay? Check with Homura about Madoka.
-[x] If Sayaka is supposed to be at home, then we should go and see if she's really not there to find out if your visions are still working properly and you're not being deceived.
I would also prefer to have a Q&A session with Oriko about what she has seen about Feathers and the threat that is bigger than Walpurgisnacht, but I realize that people want to go now, so that can probably wait. But the stuff that is immediately relevant for saving Sayaka? We should definitely discuss that before we leave.
[x] Ask Oriko to explain her old prediction for Mami's benefit, how it changed and now how it's changed back and what the similarities and differences between the original and current predictions are.
[x] Explain to Mami that Sabrina can change make actions that Oriko would not have predicted, so we should be capable of stopping any threats that Oriko sees.
[x] Ask Oriko: Could someone or something be interfering with your visions? Maybe even giving you false ones?
[x] Sayaka is still our current and most urgent priority.
-[x] Ask for more details on Sayaka's situation. How is the witch endangering her?
--[x] Is she okay? Is there anyone else with her?
--[x] Is there anyone else involved? Other magical girls?
--[x] Ask if Madoka and Hitomi are okay? Check with Homura about Madoka.
-[x] If Sayaka is supposed to be at home, then we should go and see if she's really not there to find out if your visions are still working properly and you're not being deceived.
I would also prefer to have a Q&A session with Oriko about what she has seen about Feathers and the threat that is bigger than Walpurgisnacht, but I realize that people want to go now, so that can probably wait. But the stuff that is immediately relevant for saving Sayaka? We should definitely discuss that before we leave.
Gadjo
Doka
...By trying to eat her? It's a witch. I mean, it's not engaging her in a battle of wits over which glass is poisoned or something.
And I think we have all the relevant info we're going to get. Let's go save Sayaka.
By getting her to throw herself off a roof.
By getting her to drink poison.
By causing someone else to go on a murder spree.
By attacking her directly.
There are many different ways that the witch could kill Sayaka, and some of them could require special preparation (obtaining a poison antidote, for instance).
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
i'm worried about homura
Gadjo
Doka
She said we have an hour, and we're in timestop. We don't need an antidote or whatever. We go find her, then save her. If we find out we need to do something else first? Drop her out of timestop and figure it out. This is the least necessary thing to prepare for.
- Location
- East of the Sun and West of the Moon
And so begins the Best Mamigold Hotel.
And should we trust that things will go fine simply because Oriko hasn't told us about any particular problems? This is exactly the type of thing that requires us to not blindly trust Oriko but instead to ask her to tell us what she knows. And Oriko was not confident about this situation in the first place.
Oriko is right there. It costs us nothing to ask, and it could potentially save Sayaka's life or the life of one of the witch's other victims. And it should show Homura that we aren't blindly trusting Oriko. Why shouldn't we ask her? What did we learn in the last update that would allow us to say "That's all the useful information we could possibly learn from Oriko about this situation"?
Gadjo
Doka
What exactly are you expecting, man? I mean, there really isn't much we could do to prepare to save her other than just being cautious in our approach and finding her without leaving timestop. I mean, poisoned? Really? Because even if we did know she was poisoned, well, there isn't a cure-all antidote for poison. We'd have to know what it was anyway. Besides that, the other options? Like someone else being out to kill Sayaka, or things of that nature? None of that would change our approach of "find blueberry, save blueberry, interrogate blueberry."
It's kind of a waste of an update to question her further. I think she's told us everything pertinent to the situation that she actually knows.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
We went over this: there is, it's just hard to get out when it's done working.
Gadjo
Doka
I don't remember you going over that, but regardless: if we find out that she's poisoned- which we have literally no reason to suspect by the way- we can just drop her from timestop and go get whatever we need.
[X] Actually show Homura and Oriko the physical feather at some point. In timestop.
"But what if" is not a valid reason to do things when the "if" is extremely improbable. I don't see it helping and it comes over as...well, pointless. If Sayaka's witch kissed and we're timestopped, it really, really doesn't matter what the witch is making her do. Our response'll be exactly the same.
And somehow I don't think asking Oriko more questions will make Homura happy at all. It's still trusting her- and this is something we don't need to or should do it for.
And somehow I don't think asking Oriko more questions will make Homura happy at all. It's still trusting her- and this is something we don't need to or should do it for.
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Gadjo
Doka
This too. Before voting to ask more questions, ask yourself: "is this important enough that it's worth further ratcheting Homu's tension up?" I don't believe Oriko has any more important information that she's going to give on this. Let's get out of here before poor Homu has a heart attack.
I mean, granted, she'd be fine, but it's the emotional thing that I'd be worried about.
Muramasa
Best Girl
These questions come at the cost of Homura's sanity the longer we dally here so yeah, there is a cost.
This needs better specification. The differences between one future timeline and next could have countless differences in minute details. We can get snowballed with irrelevant information.
Minus Sabrina's unpredictability in Oriko's visions, this line is pretty much a repeat of "We can still avert this timeline." We already said that, and Sabrina's unpredictability isn't very helpful in the current context.
In which we state what should be completely obvious.
At this point I'm not so sure we should bother with questions we can just as easily find out by observing in timestop or with Sabrina's witch-dar active. As I said before, the longer we stay here, the more likely Homura is just going to snap. If we're going to ask questions, we should consolidate them to get a general idea, even if it doesn't get us everything.
The longer this situation remains, the more Homura is going to stress herself out. We can find this out simply by going to the industrial district and searching for Sayaka ourselves.
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