Is that really any less odd than the fact that Sabrina regularly pauses time for 24 hours of subjective time in order to gather her thoughts and decide what to do next? Come to think of it, this is one of Sabrina's meta-powers that we haven't mentioned to anyone, even Homura.
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Sabrina is the avatar of SV. She knows everything that we know. So of course she knows that 24 hours of subjective time pass in order to allow her to make decisions. She may not actually experience the passage of that time (which would be why the thoughts often happen in the middle of the update), but she's perfectly aware that it happens.
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Eh. My headcanon has a meta wall so far as what Sabrina knows. She has not once acknowledged the thread, and as such, I take it we're playing as her thought processes, not SV. I feel like her meta wall ends at knowledge of the thread.
The fact that Sabrina knows that she can think and make decisions as if she had 24 hours of time to ponder them (without actually taking any time at all) doesn't break that particular meta-wall.
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Gadjo
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She might have confidence in her ability to come up with solutions (which she totally does, because arrogance), but she doesn't think "Oh well, I've got 24 hours of head time to think this over. 48 if I'm indecisive.". She just thinks that she's smart, essentially.
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You say that like it's some awesome advantage.
It's not. It's a form of brain damage. Seriously, Sabrina's perception/memory of time is so fucking distorted it's not even funny.
Sabrina: "Man, it's been forever since I've seen Kyouko!"
*Remembers that she last saw Kyouko yesterday*
Or how about:
"Hey Mami, are you over your plethora of psychological issues yet?"
"I was literally a broken, sobbing wreck that couldn't even stand being in a different room from you two days ago."
"Damn it! I can't let that stand! I'll figure out some way to make you all better before the next two days are up, don't you worry!"
Or even:
"So hey Immaboutto drop some bombs here, best make sure I social-fu this like a mast--hey I wonder if I could use grief to make Mami's hair look even more outrageous than it already is...come to think of it, I could probably pull off an Einstein look myself...and I wonder what I could do with Homura's hair!"
"...Sabrina?"
"Hm? Oh! Sorry, lost my train of thought. Anyway, the long and short of it is that magic is real, magical girls are duped into living an extremely dangerous and hellish lifestyle in exchange for one wish, and white bunnycat aliens should be shot or pulverized on sight. Alright, now let's go magically heal Kyousuke's untreatable injury!"
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"What's it like, Sabrina?"
The white-haired girl turned to face Mami, confusion clear on her face, and swallowed her bite of pasta before asking: "What's what like?"
"Oh," Mami paused for a moment as she tried to figure out just how to phrase it, before sighing and saying, "It's just, you always seem to have some sort of plan, is all; how do you do it?"
Sabrina thought for a moment how to answer this. After a bit of mental debate, two comedic pieces, and a cat picture, Sabrina cleared her throat and began to explain:
"Y'know that Sherlock Holmes movie," Sabrina motioned with her fork for emphasis, "the one with Robert Downey, Jr. in it?"
"I think so. 'Discombobulate'?"
"Yeah, that's the one! It's kinda like when he plans those fights out, only with a bit more arguing, a few tangents, and occasionally a newspaper or Disney's Hades."
Mami blinked owlishly. This was not quite the answer she had been expecting . . . yet, somehow, it was somewhat expected. "Oh, Sabrina . . . "
The rest of the meal was occupied by small talk, and uneventful.
The white-haired girl turned to face Mami, confusion clear on her face, and swallowed her bite of pasta before asking: "What's what like?"
"Oh," Mami paused for a moment as she tried to figure out just how to phrase it, before sighing and saying, "It's just, you always seem to have some sort of plan, is all; how do you do it?"
Sabrina thought for a moment how to answer this. After a bit of mental debate, two comedic pieces, and a cat picture, Sabrina cleared her throat and began to explain:
"Y'know that Sherlock Holmes movie," Sabrina motioned with her fork for emphasis, "the one with Robert Downey, Jr. in it?"
"I think so. 'Discombobulate'?"
"Yeah, that's the one! It's kinda like when he plans those fights out, only with a bit more arguing, a few tangents, and occasionally a newspaper or Disney's Hades."
Mami blinked owlishly. This was not quite the answer she had been expecting . . . yet, somehow, it was somewhat expected. "Oh, Sabrina . . . "
The rest of the meal was occupied by small talk, and uneventful.
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She does have an issue. (Although, having the emotional attention span of a gnat is an advantage for a magical girl. It takes pages of negativity to darken her soul-gem.)
However, I really don't think it is brain damage. If Sabrina's brain was ever damaged, it would have been healed when she became a zombie.
What she has is some form of cognitive processing disorder. Very different.
If we keep discussing it long enough, Sabrina's thoughts might give us the answer.
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AuraTwilight
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You know. Considering the whole Soul Gem thing, the state of our brain doesn't even matter.
We have SOUL damage. Good god.
We have SOUL damage. Good god.
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A bit blunt, but it works. Should be enough to prevent Kyouske crushing on us.
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[x] Ugolino
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Sabrina raised her arms, and earth she stood upon began to roil, a circle of her magic bringing Grief and terrain up through it to form many strange bodies -- some human, some monstrous, some rather familiar (Homura, Kyouko, and Sayaka were rather unnerved to see themselves among them more than once*), and some downright strange (a dragon in a bowl of soup? Sauron with a monocle?) -- all writhing and roiling about Sabrina, some brandishing weapons and all conversing with one another animatedly in foreign tongues**.
Sabrina, standing tall above the maelstrom of power and bodies, shouted above their many voices:
"I AM LEGION, FOR WE ARE MANY!"
. . .
After the demonstration, Sabrina beamed proudly at her circle of friends, and asked:
"So, guys, what do you think?"
"Sabrina?"
"Yes, Mami?"
"P-please never do that again."
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*One pair of the latter were together, locked in a hybrid between a fight and a hug, the Sayaka-like brandishing a newspaper and the Kyouklone wielding a cursed blade.
**Unfortunately, as it was English, some of it was actually understandable.
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Hm.
I like this vote!
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Imagine if Homura regularly stopped time.....And then just stood still instead of running around? That'd surely be weirder, right?
Ultimately, one can justify, but I personally consider her to have all info. And thus, storybomb is a thing.
I like this vote!
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Yes. Yes it is.
Imagine if Homura regularly stopped time.....And then just stood still instead of running around? That'd surely be weirder, right?
I don't know, her reaction speed sucks.
Ultimately, one can justify, but I personally consider her to have all info. And thus, storybomb is a thing.
As I understand it, Sabrina's meta-knowledge (and lack of IC/OOC knowledge separation in general) seems to extend to just short of the source of the meta-knowledge. Aka, she does not know she is a quest protagonist, nor does she know her mind is "powered" by an internet forum, nor does she realize the setting she is in is from an anime or fictional work in general.
Hard to say if she realizes her thought process is ludicrously accelerated.
However, she does seem to realize that her thought process is not "normal" (though she doesn't seem bothered by it, given the fact she jokes about it).
Hard to say if she realizes her thought process is ludicrously accelerated.
However, she does seem to realize that her thought process is not "normal" (though she doesn't seem bothered by it, given the fact she jokes about it).
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@techsy730: How do you propose Sabrina knows the anime and manga and etc then? That's one thing I imagine she unquestionably knows as metaknowledge, since the very first post.
Also, Firnagzen posted a tally on last page.
Also, Firnagzen posted a tally on last page.
Based on what I understood from the first post, she doesn't seem to know that the knowledge is from an anime, just that she knows all the information from the anime (and the extended Madoka franchise in general). Just the info of the Madoka-verse, but not the source of the info (that it is a fictional setting).
Note that in the OP, she just "knows" the stuff, without any reason for knowing it; she never makes mention of or alludes to the existence of any Madoka media.
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Yea, was just wondering if any edits splitting the banwagons came in.
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I read it the encourage to use metaknowledge and blatant using is as knowing the metaknowledge, nothing about not knowing anything we know. "I invite you to use as much meta-knowledge and reasoning as you like; I will be treating her as an avatar of SV as guided by the votes and a mind state as given by the thread, in any case."
Being unable to explain in-universe the knowledge....We don't have in-universe explanation, but being unable to explain in-universe at all seems something that would limit Sabrina's knowledge to less than SV's knowledge.
@techsy730: I'm not sure how you found the tally but yet failed to notice the lack of splitting it. That said, you can always make a tally yourself, just DL Firn's program
Being unable to explain in-universe the knowledge....We don't have in-universe explanation, but being unable to explain in-universe at all seems something that would limit Sabrina's knowledge to less than SV's knowledge.
@techsy730: I'm not sure how you found the tally but yet failed to notice the lack of splitting it. That said, you can always make a tally yourself, just DL Firn's program
Sabrina has metaknowledge but quite honestly "you're all anime characters and I'm a quest protagonist lol" would just be...trite. Tiring. It'd take away from Sabrina as a character, and doesn't fit what we've already long established about her and what Firn's written. She sees them all as people she happens to know things about.
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I see no major concerns that stick out.
I see no major concerns that stick out.
At this rate, come next update...
Sabrina: *eyes glaze over as she stares into the distance*
Mami: "What's wrong Sabrina?"
Sabrina: *snaps back to "reality"* "Oh nothing. Just thinking about thinking. Then thinking about thinking about thinking. Then thinking about how to show my thinking about thinking."
Everyone else: *stares in confusion and vague horror*
Sabrina: "Hey, if I were to make familiars out of my grief, should I have them echo my thoughts? I already got some ideas about what to make them look like."
EDIT: Oh, and before I forget...
[x] Ugolino
Sabrina: *eyes glaze over as she stares into the distance*
Mami: "What's wrong Sabrina?"
Sabrina: *snaps back to "reality"* "Oh nothing. Just thinking about thinking. Then thinking about thinking about thinking. Then thinking about how to show my thinking about thinking."
Everyone else: *stares in confusion and vague horror*
Sabrina: "Hey, if I were to make familiars out of my grief, should I have them echo my thoughts? I already got some ideas about what to make them look like."
EDIT: Oh, and before I forget...
[x] Ugolino
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