Right, forgot about the posts being thoughts going through Sabrina's head. Too bad overly condensed grief isn't volatile - we could have set up a mine field that would go off if she used her anti-magic.
Would still work if we ran away, though. And if we had them hover around her, she'd have to follow us more-or-less. Easy to set up a killzone this way.
 
Would still work if we ran away, though. And if we had them hover around her, she'd have to follow us more-or-less. Easy to set up a killzone this way.
The AMP doesn't de-animate them on contact?
[x]Muramasa
-[x]Try and use grief to slow her down
--[x]Cages, obstacles, bullets, bindings, circle her with the marbles; whatever it takes!
 
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Would still work if we ran away, though. And if we had them hover around her, she'd have to follow us more-or-less. Easy to set up a killzone this way.
Firstly any meguca so "trapped" could easily just run/jump out of it before you could do anything from that distance.

Secondly, when the first antimagic pulse disrupted Sabrina's control over grief she had deployed a large cloud of grief already, and it dispersed harmlessly without affecting anyone. I don't get why people keep expecting grief to just be magnetically drawn into the nearest soul gem when that's very clearly not how it behaves.
 
Hm, we could grab a handful of marbles and blast them into her torso. Then after the next pulse, they become blades and start moving? If we can get the spine, at least she'd lose mobility unless she's awesome at walking on her hands.

There'd'be been very little salvageable of her body. You'd have made it in time to recover her Soul Gem and a little part of her torso, though...

That would have been fun.
"Oh, hey Mami, just need to stay in Kasamino overnight, we need to regenerate Kyouko's meat puppet from a rib and her left big toe. See you tomorrow!"

if anyone'd care to think about it a little.
Psh, when has thinking about anything ever stopped us? Kidding, love ya Firn!
 
We're trying to shut her down so we can grab her gem end the fight, not gut her and put her down for good. Hammer blows and targeted grief projectiles should do the trick while opening her up leads to awkward questions from Mami right afterwards.
 
Firstly any meguca so "trapped" could easily just run/jump out of it before you could do anything from that distance.

Secondly, when the first antimagic pulse disrupted Sabrina's control over grief she had deployed a large cloud of grief already, and it dispersed harmlessly without affecting anyone. I don't get why people keep expecting grief to just be magnetically drawn into the nearest soul gem when that's very clearly not how it behaves.
WoG is that compressed grief isn't decompressed, it's just deanimated. If, for instance, we dropped a grief cage on her, as long as we were in rnage, I believe it'd still be a cage.
 
WoG is that compressed grief isn't decompressed, it's just deanimated. If, for instance, we dropped a grief cage on her, as long as we were in rnage, I believe it'd still be a cage.
One: how is it that you intend to make a cage out of a hundred marbles. Especially as we never tried to make compressed grief into other shapes and have it be stable, but more I'm meaning the raw volume shouldn't be sufficient.

Two: why do you think that an inanimate grief cage is going to be strong enough to stop a meguca? Without animation it would only be as strong as the marbles, and megucas crash through concrete like it's cardboard.

Three: How are you going to get Kirika into the cage since she's outrunning us and you can't animate the cage?
 
Point of order; relatively small cloud of grief, perhaps six or seven marbles' worth.

Hey Firn, I think I've lost the scope of how many marbles Sabrina usually gains when cleansing a soul gem. Do you think you could give us a general idea of how much corruption resides within each marble and perhaps how that measures with the capacity of an average soul gem?
 
On the nature of Grief accumulation
"Oh, hey Mami, just need to stay in Kasamino overnight, we need to regenerate Kyouko's meat puppet from a rib and her left big toe. See you tomorrow!"
Dinnae forget Yuma! And the big fire scheduled for that night!
Hey Firn, I think I've lost the scope of how many marbles Sabrina usually gains when cleansing a soul gem. Do you think you could give us a general idea of how much corruption resides within each marble and perhaps how that measures with the capacity of an average soul gem?
Day to day living - A fraction to a marble-ish.
Power use - Anywhere from three or four to double digits.
Emotional trauma - Lots.
Disassemble a Witch - All da marbles
 
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One: how is it that you intend to make a cage out of a hundred marbles. Especially as we never tried to make compressed grief into other shapes and have it be stable, but more I'm meaning the raw volume shouldn't be sufficient.
We were managing swords and wings, I don't see why a cage would be out of our reach. I don't mean a bird cage, I mean a dome or bucket. Anything that can potentially contain her.
Two: why do you think that an inanimate grief cage is going to be strong enough to stop a meguca? Without animation it would only be as strong as the marbles, and megucas crash through concrete like it's cardboard.
Because when we fired grief at her, the grief went straight through her?
Three: How are you going to get Kirika into the cage since she's outrunning us and you can't animate the cage?
We have a hundred meter radius, right? Just form it above her, and fly it over her head and slowly lower it down - if it stops being animated, it'd drop down due to gravity.
 
We were managing swords and wings, I don't see why a cage would be out of our reach. I don't mean a bird cage, I mean a dome or bucket. Anything that can potentially contain her.
Those were all animated operations that fell apart once no longer under active control.

Because when we fired grief at her, the grief went straight through her?
A pencil goes through bone if you move it fast enough. It doesn't indicate anything about its strength.

We have a hundred meter radius, right? Just form it above her, and fly it over her head and slowly lower it down - if it stops being animated, it'd drop down due to gravity.
What part of no longer animated do you not get? If it stops being animated it will fall apart just like our grief blades do.
 
Those were all animated operations that fell apart once no longer under active control.

A pencil goes through bone if you move it fast enough. It doesn't indicate anything about its strength.
Yes, but grief is much more malleable. The fact that it "penetrated" rather then "shattered" or "splattered" indicates that, at least to a certain extent, that it's capable of retaining it's form. Ditto for the swords and wings. And the Marbles stayed in their shape.
What part of no longer animated do you not get? If it stops being animated it will fall apart just like our grief blades do.
Animated - that is, controlled and moving - is completely independent from retaining it's shape. The marbles didn't just go back into their cloud states, they stayed marbles. That indicates that we can stabilize grief into (at least relatively simple) shapes.
 
Guys. Guys. We're hitting Kirika with a hammer and throwing some kind of grief at her at high speed, and at the end of the day, isn't that what really matters? :p
 
Yes, but grief is much more malleable. The fact that it "penetrated" rather then "shattered" or "splattered" indicates that, at least to a certain extent, that it's capable of retaining it's form. Ditto for the swords and wings. And the Marbles stayed in their shape.

Animated - that is, controlled and moving - is completely independent from retaining it's shape. The marbles didn't just go back into their cloud states, they stayed marbles. That indicates that we can stabilize grief into (at least relatively simple) shapes.
Our wings and blades are both animated forms of grief, and you're intending to move a cage in above a moving target and randomly expecting it to fall onto the moving target when you lose control of it.
 
I think anti-magic removes just removes our control.
If we are holding and moving grief, our control gets dispelled and so does the grief, into a cloud.
If we craft the grief into a structure, like a marble or cage, then remove our telekinesis/control, anti-magic doesn't do anything.
I think grief is NOT magical in nature...
 
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